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Hello. I'm bored, so thought I'd start an anal thread (which, come to think of it, does sound like a particularly painful piece of medical equipment). So, who's got some long-winded, convoluted and tedious theories on any perceived differences between Gescom and Autechre's sound? My own theory is a simple one -- the Gescom material sounds like the rough demos that eventually become Autechre tracks. Or, to look at it another way, all tracks start off life as Gescom tracks, but only the ones that are polished, edited and mangled to within an inch of their life become Autechre tracks. Let the navel contemplation begin. -- Mark Stevens http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

quoted 6 lines My own theory is a simple one -- the Gescom material sounds like the

>My own theory is a simple one -- the Gescom material sounds like the >rough demos that eventually become Autechre tracks. Or, to look at it >another way, all tracks start off life as Gescom tracks, but only the >ones that are polished, edited and mangled to within an inch of their >life become Autechre tracks. >

i always thought the gescom stuff had a more hip-hop funky "street" sound. this theory seemed to work OK until the gescom MD came out. ---------------------------------------------- D is for Desond thrown out of a sleigh ---------------------------------------------- bruce levenstein bruceLev@mindspring.com ----------------------------------------------

quoted 2 lines So, who's got some long-winded, convoluted and tedious theories on any

>So, who's got some long-winded, convoluted and tedious theories on any >perceived differences between Gescom and Autechre's sound?

I remember reading an interview wtih Rob and Sean where they said something to this effect...that Gescom was just the stuff they felt that they couldn't release as Autechre. I took this to mean that they felt Gescom material was too different from Autechre material to release under the Autechre name. Personally, the main difference that I note between the two is that Gescom lacks the more industrial tone that some Autechre truly excells in. Not that I think of Autechre as having an industrial sound overall, I just think of Gescom as being softer in some general way. Lauren _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

So there was what, two weeks with no discussion of Ae? I think that Gescom sounds less like Funkstorung than Ae does, that's the difference. :) Thank God this thread got started! :D .Bil. IAMaCOPIER

: I think gescom was created just to keep idmlist foo's posting and : trainspotting about them when everyone gets sick of hearing about or just the : mention of the word autechre...oh, and simpler time signatures....hee-hee..... gescom also usually involves other persons

I guess I'm gonna be uncool and post to this. sfwd wrote:

quoted 1 line gescom also usually involves other persons

> gescom also usually involves other persons

..and to my ears that seems to really effect Gescom's sound when you compare it to Autechre. Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the moment. A not-too-long-ago thread mentioned that Darrell Fitton (aka: Bola) occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye here, or do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them? I'm listening to a2- FIVE at the moment... Yea, Listen to this and then put Soup in the reader. and continue to meander, minus 1 bleep points, _10m

On Sun, 30 May 1999 18:53:08 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the

>Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the >moment. A not-too-long-ago thread mentioned that Darrell Fitton (aka: Bola) >occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye here, or >do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them?

Well, it's no secret. Darrel Fitton, Rob Hall and a few others whose names escape me, are mentioned on the label. -- Mark Stevens http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

At 02:30 PM 5/30/99 PDT, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines So, who's got some long-winded, convoluted and tedious theories on any

>>So, who's got some long-winded, convoluted and tedious theories on any >>perceived differences between Gescom and Autechre's sound?

quoted 4 lines Personally, the main difference that I note between the two is that Gescom

>Personally, the main difference that I note between the two is that Gescom >lacks the more industrial tone that some Autechre truly excells in. Not >that I think of Autechre as having an industrial sound overall, I just think >of Gescom as being softer in some general way.

Hmmmm...that's kinda the same way I feel. I was going to say that Gescom tracks (not all of them, by any means) tend to have a more organic feel than Autechre ones do. Compare Gescom's track "SKFL2" (on the 1st Alt.Frequencies comp) to most of Autechre's output. Some of the Gescom stuff isn't very organic sounding though, so....who the hell knows... Jeff

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quoted 2 lines Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the

> Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the > moment. A not-too-long-ago thread mentioned that Darrell Fitton (aka:

Bola)

quoted 1 line occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye

> occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye

here, or

quoted 1 line do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them?

> do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them?

Oh, yes. When I was listening to Soup for the first time I couldn't help thinking "It sounds exactly like Gescom 1, Darrel must have written the whole album in good old 1994!". And their second EP may have so strong hip-hop flavour because of Maddocks' participation. But Motor EP is just Sean and Rob and it sounds so different from the usual Ae stuff, that puzzles me :) I think that maybe gescom is something more conventional (like techno, electro and hip hop), though I don't mean anything negative by conventional :) And the Ae stuff is more experimental and IDMish, but Minidisk doesn't fit into this frame :) Nick.

quoted 2 lines Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the

> Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the > moment. A not-too-long-ago thread mentioned that Darrell Fitton (aka:

Bola)

quoted 1 line occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye

> occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye

here, or

quoted 1 line do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them?

> do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them?

Oh, yes. When I was listening to Soup for the first time I couldn't help thinking "It sounds exactly like Gescom 1, Darrel must have written the whole album in good old 1994!". And their second EP may have so strong hip-hop flavour because of Maddocks' participation. But Motor EP is just Sean and Rob and it sounds so different from the usual Ae stuff, that puzzles me :) I think that maybe gescom is something more conventional (like techno, electro and hip hop), though I don't mean anything negative by conventional :) And the Ae stuff is more experimental and IDMish, but Minidisk doesn't fit into this frame :) Nick.

Again, for those of you who missed it first time around: "Gescom's not just me and Rob,” explains Booth. “Its a whole load of us. There's probably about 30 people that do stuff" Gescom's most intriguing figure is its anonynimity. With earlier releases, both Booth and Brown were less forthright about who was involved with Gescom, and if it were actually them to begin with. While the releases were attributed to them, Brown once even commented, with regards to the “Motor” EP on Germany’s esteemed Clear “It might not even be us on that record.” As it turns out, the ethic behind Gescom is a continuation of the crew ethic of their teenage tagging days. Instead of crediting themselves and the other individuals responsible for a particular Gescom release, "all we do is put the crew up," Booth explains. "We don't write our names, we just offer the crew." While Gescom displays the same attention to texture and detail that Autechre does, it conveys, at least to Booth and Brown, a very different headspace, one mediated by the involvement with other people. Simply explained once by Rob, Gescom is "us not being Autechre." Nick Zavriev wrote:

quoted 18 lines Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the

> > Take for example this stuff off of Gescom-1 that I'm listening to at the > > moment. A not-too-long-ago thread mentioned that Darrell Fitton (aka: > Bola) > > occasionally contributed to the Gescom project. Can I get an aye aye > here, or > > do some of the Gecom-1 trax have a Bola-ish feel to them? > > Oh, yes. When I was listening to Soup for the first time I couldn't help > thinking "It sounds exactly like Gescom 1, Darrel must have written the > whole album in good old 1994!". And their second EP may have so strong > hip-hop flavour because of Maddocks' participation. But Motor EP is just > Sean and Rob and it sounds so different from the usual Ae stuff, that > puzzles me :) I think that maybe gescom is something more conventional (like > techno, electro and hip hop), though I don't mean anything negative by > conventional :) And the Ae stuff is more experimental and IDMish, but > Minidisk doesn't fit into this frame :) > > Nick.

remember... it's Autechre systems brought to you by Gescom Enterprises. So Gescom is the huge coporate conglomerate behind the scenes that runs Autechre the public front. It's all explained on the back of Incunabula.. geez.. -=aaron