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1998-11-29 16:14Ethan (idm) Re: DJ Hell, brinkmann, schmickler, samplers
└─ 1998-11-30 15:51Kent Williams (idm) re: samplers
1998-12-01 00:36Re: (idm) re: samplers
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1998-11-29 16:14Ethanso I'll now answer my own question about the new DJ Hell album, as it arrived in the mail
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so I'll now answer my own question about the new DJ Hell album, as it arrived in the mail later that day. I couldn't even listen to it all the way through - bad disco indeed. I might have found it tolerable were it not for the insufferably stupid vocal bits. now for sale on consignment at my local vinyl shoppe. fortunately, the same package also contained the Summer DSP 10" and the Hawtin/Brinkmann Concept 1:VR 2xLP, both of which lived up to their reputations (via this list) as fine pieces of noddy minimalism. being a big fan of the last pluramon release, I also recently picked up the wabi sabi 12" on a-musik (which is excellent) & am impatiently awaiting the marcus schmickler acid 12" on max ernst or whichever brinkmann label it's on. I'm tempted to check out some of brinkmann's own releases, but I haven't been that impressed by the realaudio snippets I've heard - can't remember exactly which tracks it was. can anyone suggest a good place to start? I remember Inge/Jutte getting some props here. also am on the lookout for a good sampler under $1000. Any suggestions? I'm mainly interested in using it for live performance sans midi, so some sort of user friendly front panel interface is essential. SCSI would also be nice. we've been using an old roland MS-1, but its limitations are showing. ethan
1998-11-30 15:51Kent WilliamsOn Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Ethan wrote: > > also am on the lookout for a good sampler under $100
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On Sun, 29 Nov 1998, Ethan wrote:
quoted 7 lines also am on the lookout for a good sampler under $1000. Any suggestions?> > also am on the lookout for a good sampler under $1000. Any suggestions? > I'm mainly interested in using it for live performance sans midi, so some > sort of user friendly front panel interface is essential. SCSI would also > be nice. we've been using an old roland MS-1, but its limitations are > showing. >
The Akai MPC2000 is the current king of the live setup -- one box, velocity sensitive pads you can wail on, pattern based sequencing. Problem is, to trick it out for maximum usability will run you nearly $2000. http://www.akai.com/akaipro/products/MPC2000.html The only other solutions involve buying a standalone sequencer, like an Alesis MMT8, and a sampler that you drive from it. MMT8's are easy to use, have track mute buttons, and are pattern based. Downside is that they don't make them any more, and they're prone to mechanical problems with their buttons. Nothing that Alesis won't fix if you pay them $100, but still a pain in the ass. If you go sequencer+sampler, there are very cool choices in the sub-$1K range -- the stock Akai S2000 can be had for about $700, and the Emu ESI32 Turbo is in a similar price range. The ESI32 has been replaced by new models, but I still see them at blowout prices on flyers from Guitar Center and places like that. http://www.emu.com/ http://www.akai.com/akaipro/products/S2000.html Roland has that SP808 which is potentially cool, but there's something really annoying to me about their user interfaces, and their slavish devotion to what's currently "phat, fly and cool." Just build me an instrument that has an open ended architecture and let ME decide what sounds to make. Roland makes it easy to sound like records that came out last year, which means they can sew up the wannabe market. http://www.rolandus.com/PRODUCTS/MI/MI_GRP.HTM#SP-808 Along the same lines is the Ensoniq ASRX, but I have an intense dislike for its internal sequencer. Your mileage may vary. I have an Akai S20, which is as bare bones as they come -- floppy only, crappy sequencer, no DSP. But the thing has a unique performance setup that makes it playable as an instrument in ways that isn't possible with many things. At $500 they're no bargain, but I got one at a pawn for 1/2 that. If you find one cheap I'd go for it. The Remix16 is the S20's big brother -- it comes in a metal box, has a scratch/bend slider and SCSI option. But it's really an S20 in a different box, and they cost over twice as much. http://www.akai.com/akaipro/products/S20.html http://www.akai.com/akaipro/products/REMIXspecs.html And last, and perhaps least, the Boss SP-202 -- which is a little sucker that takes smartcards for sample storage. Again this seems a bit fly-weight as far as capabilities go, but it is portable and sturdy. http://www.rolandus.com/PRODUCTS/MI/BS_PS.HTM#SP-202
1998-12-01 00:36DzrtMusic@aol.comwould you happen to know if there is anywhere online that someone could buy *used* equipme
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would you happen to know if there is anywhere online that someone could buy *used* equipment like this? -allen