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quoted 3 lines P.S. Be glad you missed on the Half-Can Half-Bisquit show with Damo Suzuki

>>P.S. Be glad you missed on the Half-Can Half-Bisquit show with Damo Suzuki >> and Michael Karoli. Ugh. When you can't tell the new songs apart from >> the Can tunes (they did "Jupiter" from the first Can album,

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quoted 2 lines Michael Balch), you know something's seriously wrong. Sherman, set the

>> Michael Balch), you know something's seriously wrong. Sherman, set the >> Wayback for 1973 ... bleaugh.

i'm wondering, did their improv set just not "connect", or did it lack vitality, or was it really sloppy, or something else? i missed them when they came around to NYC last weekend, and i've got major regrets right now. so i'm curious as to whether these guys are just not in "shape" or is this simply a matter of taste? oh, and how was James Plotkin? btw, it really is a sad day in kraut-land when expressions like "old fart Can guys" start getting thrown around. :) read the Bible my friends, learn from Jonah and his repentance in the belly of the whale... Bt.

On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Bathcat wrote:

quoted 5 lines i'm wondering, did their improv set just not "connect", or did it lack

> i'm wondering, did their improv set just not "connect", or did it lack > vitality, or was it really sloppy, or something else? i missed them when > they came around to NYC last weekend, and i've got major regrets right now. > so i'm curious as to whether these guys are just not in "shape" or is this > simply a matter of taste? oh, and how was James Plotkin?

yeah, it just wasn't there. but those two have always been my least two favourite members of can, so... plotkin/spybey was incredible, though. one of the better thigns i've seen recently. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# see the stars, they're shining bright/everything's alright tonight

laerm wrote:

quoted 13 lines On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Bathcat wrote:

> On Thu, 1 Oct 1998, Bathcat wrote: > > > i'm wondering, did their improv set just not "connect", or did it lack > > vitality, or was it really sloppy, or something else? i missed them when > > they came around to NYC last weekend, and i've got major regrets right now. > > so i'm curious as to whether these guys are just not in "shape" or is this > > simply a matter of taste? oh, and how was James Plotkin? > > yeah, it just wasn't there. but those two have always been my least two > favourite members of can, so... > > plotkin/spybey was incredible, though. one of the better thigns i've seen > recently.

Plotkin bailed out and some other dork joined the tour. Their set was extremely boring and we spent most of it in the smoking room playing pool, ms pacman and asteroids. The only good out of the whole night was Lexaunculpt which my friend mike said he thought was the best thing he'd seen since autechre live. In my opinion it would have been a hell of a lot better if it was just Alex without Brad from Electric Company blasting out of time noises and crap over the top of alex's music. As for the can guys, greg was right. We all knew they were going to suck so we loaded alex's gear up and went for tacos. If Holger Czukay was there, I'm sure it would have been a different story. word to the mothership, brockout

can you send mark e. smith here to rhode island to head butt me? i figure if he beats up his girlfriend (she replied with a telephone to his head i believe i read) for free maybe he'll do me as well. hopefully he'l be wearing his sweater vest. (BTW-The Fall are probably the best live show I've ever seen, all things considered) -steve In a message dated 98-10-01 12:48:39 EDT, you write: << How about if we ponied up for a r/t ticket for Mark Smith to come from Manchester to L.A. to head butt some sense into you. >>

I'm sorry but there is no Can content in this message When Mark went to Disneyland he witnessed an emergency situation with ambulances coming out of bushes for a woman who got her head caught off on a roller coaster-ah. CT

quoted 18 lines From: Steve81778@aol.com

>From: Steve81778@aol.com >Subject: Re: (idm) Re: Greg Earle knows nothing about Can > >can you send mark e. smith here to rhode island to head butt me? i figure if >he beats up his girlfriend (she replied with a telephone to his head i believe >i read) for free maybe he'll do me as well. hopefully he'l be wearing his >sweater vest. > >(BTW-The Fall are probably the best live show I've ever seen, all things >considered) > >-steve > >In a message dated 98-10-01 12:48:39 EDT, you write: > ><< How about if we ponied up for a r/t ticket for Mark Smith > to come from Manchester to L.A. to head butt some sense into you. >> >

Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 14:43:11 -0700

quoted 3 lines From: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>

>From: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US> >Sender: idm-owner@hyperreal.org >Precedence: bulk

Yeah, they are plugged into something stronger - it was Kenny's Green Guy. You could see he was baked from the back of the hall. Of all the IDM'ers on this

quoted 3 lines list, I lasted the longest through it. If you want to call 10 of us ignorant

>list, I lasted the longest through it. If you want to call 10 of us ignorant >American fucks, so be it. I'll trust my own ears, thank you. Kraftwerk it >wasn't.

quoted 4 lines - Greg

> - Greg > >Chris, would you kindly get the bug out of your ass? >

Its more like a bug in the bassbin. My point with you and the other premee was that although you have the right to your (uninformed) opinion you would have got better results by witnessing the whole show and participating in the event they way Can's audiences did (not from the back of the hall). Hitting the Can-type groove with a lineup a couple dates old is not instant like playing a video game or turning on a sampler. Obviously it was a mistake having idm content on the Damo Suzuki/Michael Karoli tour (Mark Spybey was included because he has the same management). An audience of nerds with Richie Hawtin hair cuts and Sesame Street-entrained attention spans is not going to inspire these guys. Cheers CT idm content: Legion Of Green Men The Borderless EP Post Contemporary CDEP $10 Out Oct 13th. Limited edition, numbered release for the latest evolution of their chilled dub & breaks sound (including two remixes). First single from long-anticipated 2nd album Floating In Shallow Water (due Jan '99).

On Fri, 2 Oct 1998, C Twomey wrote:

quoted 4 lines My point with you and the other premee was that although you have the right

> My point with you and the other premee was that although you have the right > to your (uninformed) opinion you would have got better results by > witnessing the whole show and participating in the event they way Can's > audiences did (not from the back of the hall).

how did they participate (the audiences)? you sound like you were there...

quoted 5 lines Obviously it was a mistake having idm content on the Damo Suzuki/Michael

> Obviously it was a mistake having idm content on the Damo Suzuki/Michael > Karoli tour (Mark Spybey was included because he has the same > management). An audience of nerds with Richie Hawtin hair cuts and > Sesame Street-entrained attention spans is not going to inspire these > guys.

mark spybey has no idm connection. he comes from a straight experimental/industrial background. and i guarantee that no one with a short attention span owns a dead voices on air disc. and the only people i see with richie hawtin haircuts are richie hawtin, moby, the occasional raver kid, army recruits, black basketball players, and old guys. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# see the stars, they're shining bright/everything's alright tonight