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by the way. just telling everybody who might be close to germany around that time, that we are doing a panasonic night (with panasonic live nat.) here in cologne germany. to take place the 8th of december at the kunstwerk. whoever would like to go there mail me for instructions. or other info. bleed

I saw PANASONIC playing live in Berlin yesterday, supporting THE SWANS. It was so FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNKYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Go if you have the chance to see them. You probably don't miss much if you leave after Panasonic. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thaddi, un flaneur electronique http://www1.haywire.co.uk/haywire/dhr/sonicsubjunkies.html "sitting in the shade of a robot tree i kiss you and you kiss me..."

I seriously would like to know if the show was in fact "funky". Did they rock the house? I mean, did they actually tear it up? I somehow can't imagine Panasonic being funky. -CF

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> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of Thaddi Herrmann > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 1997 7:57 AM > To: biophilia@riege.de; 313@hyperreal.com; idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: (idm) Panasonic > > I saw PANASONIC playing live in Berlin yesterday, > supporting THE SWANS. > > It was so FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNKYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. > > Go if you have the chance to see them. > > You probably don't miss much if you leave after Panasonic. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Thaddi, > un flaneur electronique > > http://www1.haywire.co.uk/haywire/dhr/sonicsubjunkies.html > > "sitting in the shade of a robot tree > i kiss you and you kiss me..."

Funk is not just a word, funk is a state a mind which narrow minds will never reach ;) Besides, the guys of Panasonic would rather describe their music as "horsemeat rockabilly" ;) [See Scrapbook @ pHinnWeb.] Someone lamented:

quoted 3 lines I seriously would like to know if the show was in fact "funky". Did they

> I seriously would like to know if the show was in fact "funky". Did they > rock the house? I mean, did they actually tear it up? I somehow can't > imagine Panasonic being funky.

quoted 8 lines I saw PANASONIC playing live in Berlin yesterday,

> > I saw PANASONIC playing live in Berlin yesterday, > > supporting THE SWANS. > > > > It was so FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNKYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. > > > > Go if you have the chance to see them. > > > > You probably don't miss much if you leave after Panasonic.

np: Spacemen 3 - The Perfect Description (I love this album!) your pHunky pHinn, ekku the maintainer of pHinnWeb - everything u ever wanted to know about Finnish techno scene but were too afraid of the reindeer trerra@uta.fi | http://www.uta.fi/~trerra | http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb Are these questions testing whether I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard?

Remember: If you fake your funk, your nose will grow...

quoted 15 lines Funk is not just a word, funk is a state a mind which

> Funk is not just a word, funk is a state a mind which > narrow minds will never reach ;) Besides, the guys of > Panasonic would rather describe their music as > "horsemeat rockabilly" ;) [See Scrapbook @ pHinnWeb.] > > Someone lamented: > > > I seriously would like to know if the show was in fact "funky". Did they > > rock the house? I mean, did they actually tear it up? I somehow can't > > imagine Panasonic being funky. > > > > I saw PANASONIC playing live in Berlin yesterday, > > > supporting THE SWANS. > > > > > > It was so FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNKYYYYYYYYYYYYYY.

------------------------------------------------------------------- Thaddi, un flaneur electronique http://www1.haywire.co.uk/haywire/dhr/sonicsubjunkies.html "sitting in the shade of a robot tree i kiss you and you kiss me..."

-----Original Message----- From: The Rare Guy [SMTP:buh@clark.net] *Alku*: This track consists of one long beep whose filter cutoff starts modulating in about the halfway point of the track and the modulation speeds up and speeds up until the end of the track. This track really must be a joke. I thought personally it might be good as something to start out within some set or something, but I reckon I'll never listen to it to just listen to it :) Chris Fahey Sez: This track is no joke. I think this track is brilliant. If you listen to it through really kick-ass headphones it'll make your brain bigger and more powerful. It will make your life longer and your orgasms blissful and your hair fuller and your skin clearer. Seriously, give it another whirl. It's conceptual art. It's a song made out of the complexities of a waveform, and it demonstrates how intricate and beautiful even the simplest sound can be. I like to think that it was made by setting up some simple parameters for the sound, or maybe several interacting simultaneous waveforms, and just letting it do what it'll do. I once saw Space Needle use a dozen effects proicessors to carefully and precisely fuck with their guitars and drums to the point that they could just leave the stage for ten minutes and let the vacuum tubes do their job. It would be evil to play "Alku" over a PA at a party or to try to mix it in with other songs. You would hurt people. But for solo listening, I love it to death. -CF -----Original Message----- From: The Rare Guy [SMTP:buh@clark.net] *Alku*: This track consists of one long beep whose filter cutoff starts modulating in about the halfway point of the track and the modulation speeds up and speeds up until the end of the track. This track really must be a joke. I thought personally it might be good as something to start out with in some set or something, but I reckon I'll never listen to it to just listen to it :)

On Sunday, 08-Jun-97, Christopher Fahey wrote [about RE: (idm) Panasonic]:

quoted 1 line Seriously, give it another whirl. It's conceptual art. It's a song made out

>Seriously, give it another whirl. It's conceptual art. It's a song made out

of

quoted 4 lines the complexities of a waveform, and it demonstrates how intricate and

>the complexities of a waveform, and it demonstrates how intricate and >beautiful even the simplest sound can be. I like to think that it was made by >setting up some simple parameters for the sound, or maybe several interacting >simultaneous waveforms, and just letting it do what it'll do. I once saw

Space

quoted 3 lines Needle use a dozen effects proicessors to carefully and precisely fuck with

>Needle use a dozen effects proicessors to carefully and precisely fuck with >their guitars and drums to the point that they could just leave the stage for >ten minutes and let the vacuum tubes do their job.

it sounds like a couple of pure sine waves, in the middle actually the pitch modulates also, not just the filter cutoff, but I don't think it's anything that I can't do with my synth. .auddplte <-- lfo: we are back __ __\ \ / /_\ \ \_____/ , m7=

I saw an ad (tiny ) in the Irving Plaza ad blurb for Panasonic and TransAm at The Westbeth...that's all I can officially confirm, check the Voice (for those in NYC ) .

quoted 2 lines Does anyone have a list for Panasonic's forthcoming gigs? I could use this

>>Does anyone have a list for Panasonic's forthcoming gigs? I could use this >>info for my 'Sonic page (http://www.sci.fi/~phinnweb/panasonic.html)...

bpm0@interport.net Peter Becker, Promotions: Retail, DJ Pool Asphodel Records, NYC PO Box 51, Chelsea Station, NY NY 10113 Phone # (212) 965-0265 FAX # (212) 965-0959 http://www.asphodel.com

ah panasonic. I talked to a guy who saw them somewhere in the UK (i think) and said they were just brilliant. I've got all of their cd releases and am amazed every time I throw any of them into the changer. VERY minimalistic. VERY heavy. VERY good. Of all of the Panasonic releases, I would have to say that "Kulma" is my favorite. Everything from droning distorted molasses filter sweeps to dirt heavy repetition. Amazing. Also, some of Vanio's other projects such as 0, are also very good, although in more of a lighter IDM vein. If you get a chance, check them out. Anyone know if they are coming to Los Angeles anytime in the near future? _________________________________________________ Brian Rachielles- UC Santa Barbara (.b) Production Director KCSB fm 91.9 1997-98 Audio Program thurs 2-4am ambient-idm-noise web- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Club/4980

it it seems as though these guys are coming to montreal soon, and i've never heard them, so if anyone knows of anywhere i can get an mp3 or realaudio track of one or more of their toons, could you let me know? I want to know whether its a show i'll enjoy, since we don't get this kind of thing in Montreal quite as often as many other big cities, i'd like to take advantage of it, if i like the music...and don't worry, if i like it, i'll buy their albums and support their musics! Thanks in advance... Ali "It means we'll manage I'll master your language And in the meantime I'll create my own" (Tricky)

quoted 1 line ah panasonic...

> ah panasonic...

quoted 3 lines VERY minimalistic. VERY heavy. VERY good. Of all of the Panasonic releases,

> VERY minimalistic. VERY heavy. VERY good. Of all of the Panasonic releases, > I would have to say that "Kulma" is my favorite. Everything from droning > distorted molasses filter sweeps to dirt heavy repetition. Amazing.

ditto... however, let us NOT forget "uranokemia" - first cut on the "osasto" ep. has an incredible robotic edge to it, as do most of their tracks in general, but give this tune a minute or two...and well...HIT THE DECK. blows my cranium to shreds every time. storming shite. 'nother 0.02 (american tho') for the canadian... ASG

wooo. i just picked up panasonic's kulma for the amazingly low price of $6. kind of funny. i was in the rekkid store, picked it up (it was $15.99). asked to listen to it.. liked it, but determined i couldn't afford it. so i went up to the register and saw they had misplaced it in the 'used' pile and they put a $6 tag on it. so i got it. hee hee. really, really nice. very minimal. and you can feeeeeel it all through your guttyworks. really nice work with the old 808. of course, that could just be the ripping stomache i've got. time for another trip to the bathroom. i love sharing all my personal bodily functions with list members. ;) take care. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " when our worlds they fall apart when the walls come tumbling in though we may deserve it it will be worth it."

quoted 3 lines thats an ambiguous statement! Panasonic arent shit! andif youre calling

>thats an ambiguous statement! Panasonic arent shit! andif youre calling >Einsturzende Neubauten shit...well then >lets fight!

nono, i really like EN, but panasonic is poop. i honestly don't understand why people like them. not at all. we played with them in cleveland last summer. we saw what they do and heard what comes out of it. whoever: their live show is MUCH MUCH better than their recorded stuff. but it's still not very good. it's like they try to impress everyone with their music-less-ness. :) nothing like EN, where EN is pure human. so absolutely human. you know what i mean? there's GROOOOOOOOOVE! nothing like that at all in panasonic. the sounds aren't even interesting. EN's abrasiveness is comparable to autechre's abrasiveness: it's ok. it's permissable because the entire composition works well and moves you and goes somewhere. EN is especially powerful and emotional, panasonic lacks power and emotion altogether. just before they finished their set (panasonic in cleveland) they tried as hard as they could to blow out the PA the club owner rented especially for them, and they did, costing the club owner more money to throw the party than he made. everyone was covering their ears for the last five minutes of their set. everyone. and they were still fucking smiling. no, i don't like panasonic. i'm hoping FM Einheit (my favourite EN guy :) will knock some goodness into them. -eric _____________________________________________________ :: eric sherman szale@doubtful.com :: :: doubtful productions www.doubtful.com ::

quoted 14 lines thats an ambiguous statement! Panasonic arent shit! andif youre

> >thats an ambiguous statement! Panasonic arent shit! andif youre > calling > >Einsturzende Neubauten shit...well then > >lets fight! > > nono, i really like EN, but panasonic is poop. i honestly don't > understand > why people like them. not at all. we played with them in cleveland > last > summer. we saw what they do and heard what comes out of it. whoever: > their > live show is MUCH MUCH better than their recorded stuff. but it's > still not > very good.

Yeah i mean i mainly base my views of them on a live gig in sheffield from about 2.5years ago... but i do enjoy their albums (albeit not often).... they were absolutely stunning live imo.. but i can imagine how it could fall apart lie or just be boring.. ...and then Jimi Tenor came on and did a live set which was pretty hilarious and then Tom Jenkinson came on and played the most amazing fretless bass, and danced to his drum fills this was the first time i heard what eventually became 'feed me wierd things'. Its hard to remember just how new squarepusher sounded back then, not long ago at all really .....Pretty good night all in all really ;-)

quoted 7 lines it's like they try to impress everyone with their music-less-ness. :)

> it's like they try to impress everyone with their music-less-ness. :) > > nothing like EN, where EN is pure human. so absolutely human. you > know > what i mean? there's GROOOOOOOOOVE! nothing like that at all in > panasonic. > the sounds aren't even interesting.

maybe FM Einhart will inject some emotion and grooove into the mix...and some dirt, panasonic lack dirt (not that 'clean' digital dirt they use ;-) whatever Steve /k/./F/

On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Steve /k/./F/ wrote:

quoted 27 lines thats an ambiguous statement! Panasonic arent shit! andif youre

> > >thats an ambiguous statement! Panasonic arent shit! andif youre > > calling > > >Einsturzende Neubauten shit...well then > > >lets fight! > > > > nono, i really like EN, but panasonic is poop. i honestly don't > > understand > > why people like them. not at all. we played with them in cleveland > > last > > summer. we saw what they do and heard what comes out of it. whoever: > > their > > live show is MUCH MUCH better than their recorded stuff. but it's > > still not > > very good. > > Yeah i mean i mainly base my views of them on a live gig in sheffield > from about 2.5years ago... but i do enjoy their albums (albeit not > often).... they were absolutely > stunning live imo.. but i can imagine how it could fall apart lie or > just be boring.. > > > it's like they try to impress everyone with their music-less-ness. :) > > > maybe FM Einhart will inject some emotion and grooove into the mix...and > some dirt, > panasonic lack dirt (not that 'clean' digital dirt they use ;-) >

i guess i feel i must speak up for the other side. of what i have of panasonic (kulma & vakio) i love them. i havent had the chance to see them live, but i can see how a live performance has the chance to be _very_ different from their recordings. no, panasonic has no groove. they arent trying to groove. panasonic is minimal (taken to extremes at times) simple, thoughtful, enjoyable, listenable, zen-like, trance-inducing, and it made my friend essej say "this is the only music that i have heard that caused physical pain. please turn it off." im a sucker for art. (does anyone remember the label -danger music-?) --- jeremiah jti0001@jove.acs.unt.edu people.unt.edu/~jti0001 --- excuse me but i just have to explode explode this body off me wake-up tomorrow brand new a little tired but brand new bj?rk

On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, cl wrote:

quoted 5 lines so, i am not the only one. if you have mikro makro (rastermusic 06 i

> so, i am not the only one. if you have mikro makro (rastermusic 06 i > think) listen to the third song for clicks halfway through that are > actually painful at any volume. i have tried this on a couple of > friends and they felt pain in their necks and throats. it gave me a > headache after repeated listenings.

yeah, i get that, too. lassigue bendthaus does this to me, too. tracks 3 and 7 on cloned have painful clicking sounds, and render on _render_ has this white noise filter-sweep sound right before the vox start that makes my medulla cringe. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### the future is in beta. "i'm a psychologist. i don't know jack." dr steve blaum, ph.d.

quoted 12 lines trance-inducing, and it made my friend essej say "this is the only

>> trance-inducing, and it made my friend essej say "this is the only >> music >> that i have heard that caused physical pain. please turn it off." >> > >so, i am not the only one. if you have mikro makro (rastermusic 06 i >think) listen to the third song for clicks halfway through that are >actually painful at any volume. i have tried this on a couple of >friends and they felt pain in their necks and throats. it gave me a >headache after repeated listenings. mika vanio has my ultimate respect >for being able to tap into my nervous system through a cd. >cl

I experience something very similar when listening to 'Onko' by Mika Vainio. He uses what sound like static electric discharges in an early part of the track and later on those clicks you describe appear. It's deadly quiet and then some really high pitched clicks come in (obviously it's much more than I can describe). The music (?) really tests your stereo's transient high pitch abilities, and you feel the clicks more than you hear them on a good system. -Ed