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Re: (idm) idiots (who stereotype)

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1997-12-29 02:38lwtcdi Re: (idm) idiots (who stereotype)
1997-12-31 03:38lwtcdi Re: (idm) idiots (who stereotype)
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1997-12-29 02:38lwtcdi>>Your average >>Aphex/Autechre listener is the same way - no Chemical Brothers, Prodigy,
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Mon, 29 Dec 1997 02:38:52 +0000
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quoted 3 lines Your average>>Your average >>Aphex/Autechre listener is the same way - no Chemical Brothers, Prodigy, >>or No-U-Turn.
quoted 7 lines Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. That's narrowminded and uncalled for.>Bollocks, bollocks, bollocks. That's narrowminded and uncalled for. >Plenty of people on this list are into No-U-Turn (I think they're >alright, but sometimes overhyped) >Plenty of people on this list are into Prodigy (Don't like the new stuff >as much as the old) >Plenty of people on this list are into Chemical Brothers (Never liked >them much, still don't)
quoted 2 lines I love dealing with idiots who post their replies without actually reading>>I love dealing with idiots who post their replies without actually reading >>the entire post.
Yes, I'm sure you enjoy being all negative and angsty. I'm sure it is one of your greatest talents. It would certainly seem to suit your personality perfectly so far...
quoted 1 line Look, fool:>>Look, fool:
I don't know where the fuck this Princeton place is, nor do I particularly care, but you are beginning to live up to the stereotype pretty well. Condescension, spoiltness and arrogance all sound like exactly the kind of traits you thought you were above. Guess you can't be right all the time, eh? Even if you think you are...
quoted 2 lines I explicitly spelled out in my original message (which means>>I explicitly spelled out in my original message (which means >>either that you didn't read it and are thus a jackass,
Oh, apologies if I don't fawn over your every single word! If you want people to reply to what you meant, make sure you include the whole post. If you purposely WANT people to misunderstand then continue to do what you have done...
quoted 2 lines or you missed it,>>or you missed it, >>in which case you have the reading comprehension of an ant)
Right, so because I missed one of your posts, or missed the point of one of your incoherent, unclear, train-of-thought style ramblings (the above lack of clarity is a case in point), I cannot read. My ability to read depends on your ability to write. I think this is something you should remember before you reach for the flamethrower...
quoted 1 line IDM READERS ARE NOT YOUR AVERAGE APHEX FANS.>IDM READERS ARE NOT YOUR AVERAGE APHEX FANS.
Some must be, unless there's list where you can discuss Autechre and Aphex isolated from any other music. Please, do point out where these places are and I'm sure I will come across the mentality of person you describe, or many of them all locked away in their tiny little musical bubble. Otherwise I will assume they are here on IDM, in which case, come out come out wherever you are!
quoted 2 lines If so many Aphex/Autechre fans>If so many Aphex/Autechre fans >listen to No-U-Turn, why does Aphex sell 50-100 thousand copies,
RDJs last LP didn't sell too well, if I remember rightly...
quoted 1 line and No-U-Turn can't sell out editions of 2000?>and No-U-Turn can't sell out editions of 2000?
The Warp/EMI connection for one. Aphex gets better distribution and publicity than No-U-Turn. Greater exposure often (although not always) means greater sales. Also, there are spots where lots of different musics cross over. It's called common ground and it's what your pop CDs were made for. Lots of people on this list have a common ground of Aphex/Autechre/Squarepusher. Some of them go off and buy No-U-Turn on the side, whereas some of them prefer other stuff on a similiar small scale. *That's* the reason for the sale difference, IMO...
quoted 2 lines Your average Aphex fan just>Your average Aphex fan just >doesn't have the time/
Just like some people might not have 'time' to read every single word you post?
quoted 2 lines inclination to look beyond the "big names" (I know>inclination to look beyond the "big names" (I know >plenty of these people)
Okay, so YOU do. *I* don't. Lucky me.
quoted 2 lines of Autechre, and (as I said) maybe>of Autechre, and (as I said) maybe >plug/mu-ziq/black dog. Get it?
I got it the first time, I just don't believe it. I'm sure (oh so sure) that you know people who fit into this category, but as I said before, I think these people are a small minority not the vast majority, as you seem to suggest. Gb. np: Bedouin Ascent - Science Art and Ritual. -- "BIG UP YA CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEAR" from * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * - L@@K WHAT THE CAT DRAGGED iN - ADVENT CRAZY http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/ DAMN JUKEBOX http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/4musjuke.htm * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * X amount of party streamers...
1997-12-31 03:38lwtcdi>> Some must be, unless there's list where you can discuss Autechre and >> Aphex isolated
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Wed, 31 Dec 1997 03:38:32 +0000
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quoted 6 lines Some must be, unless there's list where you can discuss Autechre and>> Some must be, unless there's list where you can discuss Autechre and >> Aphex isolated from any other music. Please, do point out where these >> places are and I'm sure I will come across the mentality of person you >> describe, or many of them all locked away in their tiny little musical >> bubble. Otherwise I will assume they are here on IDM, in which case, >> come out come out wherever you are!
quoted 2 lines I'll have to come out and say I probably belong to this group. But it> I'll have to come out and say I probably belong to this group. But it > isn't a lack of inclination, nor really a lack of time. It's a lack of money.
Yeah, this is something else that I was going to mention. Lack of money is a big factor when deciding what music to buy. Those who only buy for example only 1 CD a month or so will be more likely to put their money into something that they trust will be good hence the convegence towards certain trusted IDM bands. And I think they are totally right to do so. It's those that don't have the inclination that I think I would have a problem with (then again, who cares, it's up to them whatever the hell they want to buy - it would just be a shame that they didn't feel what I feel in music, which is something I often wonder about other people).
quoted 3 lines I do hunt out the occasional release from these lesser-knowns, but it takes> I do hunt out the occasional release from these lesser-knowns, but it takes > enough of my money to keep up with aphex, squarepusher, autechre, orbital, etc > releases.
Aren't you ever tempted to forsake something by the above bands for something you've never heard before? I don't do this as much as I should, but when I do I have often found some of my favourite records (then again it turns up an equal amount of crap). I'm not trying to preach or say "do what I do" or anything, I'm just interested in your (or anyones) motivation behind buying music.
quoted 3 lines Simply put, I'm not too willing to spend hard-earned money on> Simply put, I'm not too willing to spend hard-earned money on > something that's nearly impossible for me to find (short of mail-order), > and also something that I've never heard (also a problem with mail order).
Yeah, fortunately for me it is not too difficult to get hold of things because as much as I hate to admit it, having to mail-order things totally puts me off. Also, I'm curious, do you spend all your spare cash on music? This is often another factor. Some people divide their cash between thing they enjoy (music/movies/general entertainment) while other just stick to one thing. I am a total music junky and buy as much as my dole money will allow me, but some people are content to just keep up with the popular IDM (or whatever) bands and that does them fine. I don't think I'd be able to just stick with a certain few bands, I don't know why. Maybe its just the thrill of hearing something which really connects that I haven't heard before. Everything after an artists first LP just doesn't seem to be half as fulfilling. I *think* its 'cos the music is better the fresher it sounds, but I'm not really sure... Gb. np Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key Of Life (again)