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1997-01-03 04:57Pedro Cevallos (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
└─ 1997-01-03 13:16Zenon M. Feszczak Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
1997-01-03 11:50GD Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
1997-01-03 19:07Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
├─ 1997-01-03 18:30Zenon M. Feszczak Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
└─ 1997-01-03 18:34Zenon M. Feszczak Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
1997-01-03 22:59Nuno Proenca Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
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1997-01-04 04:55Electron Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
1997-01-06 18:37Otto Koppius Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
1997-01-06 20:59Re: (idm) + Brazilian Polyrhythms +
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1997-01-03 04:57Pedro CevallosMy aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa, Antonio Carlos Job
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My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Stan Getz, Luis Bonfa, Charlie Byrd, Martinho Davila, Tamba Trio, Black Orpheus Movie Sountrack, and many more). I've been mixing them with some of my jungle and acid jazz records with great success. They just seem to fit perfectly. My aunt, unfortunately, wants them back. Does anybody know: 1. Are these old records still available? If so, where? 2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa? Peace, Pedro Cevallos -- "I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul." -- William Ernest Henley -- http://www.fiu.edu/~pceval01 Finger cevallos@cat.net for PGP key.
1997-01-03 13:16Zenon M. FeszczakAt 23:57 -0500 02.01.1997, you wrote: >My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LP
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At 23:57 -0500 02.01.1997, you wrote:
quoted 10 lines My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa,>My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa, >Antonio Carlos Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Stan Getz, Luis Bonfa, >Charlie Byrd, Martinho Davila, Tamba Trio, Black Orpheus Movie Sountrack, >and many more). I've been mixing them with some of my jungle and acid >jazz records with great success. They just seem to fit perfectly. My >aunt, unfortunately, wants them back. Does anybody know: > >1. Are these old records still available? If so, where? >2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa? >
You should lend an ear to "Jazz com Bossa" on Instinct. You would never guess that these are predominantly Japanese acid jazz musicians. The record is one of the best of the spotty "This is Acid Jazz" series. I don't know about vinyl availability, but definitely track down the real jam gems. Good comps are the "Brasil" series on verve (especially "Bossa Nova Brasil"), the "Best of Bossa Nova", and the "Brazil Classics" series. This music is a natural complement to idm, along with a natural mixer to more pop dance music (think, if you dare, of, the Goodmens' "Give it Up" or of "20Hz" by Capricorn). 3
1997-01-03 11:50GDPedro Cevallos wrote:  > My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Nov
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Pedro Cevallos wrote: 
quoted 8 lines My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa,> My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa, > Antonio Carlos Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Stan Getz, Luis Bonfa, > Charlie Byrd, Martinho Davila, Tamba Trio, Black Orpheus Movie Sountrack, > and many more). I've been mixing them with some of my jungle and acid > jazz records with great success. They just seem to fit perfectly. My > aunt, unfortunately, wants them back. Does anybody know: > > 1. Are these old records still available? If so, where?
They are definitely available - look in the International, Latin, or Jazz sections of any large music chain. Luis Bonfa might be harder to find, but his stuff would make for some nice breaks...
quoted 1 line 2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa?> 2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa?
I tend to prefer samba (enredo in particular) over bossa nova; those massive drum lines make for excellent breakbeat samples, kinda in the same way marching band drums do... GD
1997-01-03 19:07tweibrecht@juno.comim really glad to see ths post...as someone who lived in brasil a long time, im glad the "
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im really glad to see ths post...as someone who lived in brasil a long time, im glad the "first world" is beginning to appreciate this music...as to 1.) try cdbrasil for starters, but most big mail order places should have a large majority of these artists. as to 2.) this is tough because ur gonna have to wade through alot of jazz records to find exactly what ur looking for but try hermeto pascoal, flora purim, airto, toninho horta, some of milton nascimentos stuff, some of gilberto gils stuff, carlinhos brown, etc. also, (and i hear the flames already) red, hot + rio is a decent sampler, imo... hope this helps, tom w np: funki porcini - hed phone sex On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:57:34 -0500 (EST) Pedro Cevallos <pceval01@fiu.edu> writes:
quoted 26 lines My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba,>My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, >Novabossa, >Antonio Carlos Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Stan Getz, Luis Bonfa, >Charlie Byrd, Martinho Davila, Tamba Trio, Black Orpheus Movie >Sountrack, >and many more). I've been mixing them with some of my jungle and acid >jazz records with great success. They just seem to fit perfectly. My >aunt, unfortunately, wants them back. Does anybody know: > >1. Are these old records still available? If so, where? >2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa? > > >Peace, > > >Pedro Cevallos >-- >"I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul." > > -- William Ernest Henley -- > >http://www.fiu.edu/~pceval01 Finger cevallos@cat.net for PGP >key. > >
1997-01-03 18:30Zenon M. FeszczakSpeeching of Brazil nuts, I'd like to hear a intellitechnosamba remix of Marrissa Monte. S
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Speeching of Brazil nuts, I'd like to hear a intellitechnosamba remix of Marrissa Monte. So hot it burns. 3
1997-01-03 18:34Zenon M. Feszczak> red,hot + rio is a decent sampler, imo... The jungle-samba cut by Everything But the Grr
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> red,hot + rio is a decent sampler, imo... The jungle-samba cut by Everything But the Grrrl kicks it all out. I was quite impressed. Didn't know Ms. EBtG had such a sure command of the mellifluous Portugeazy tongue. Don't get all freudian now. The Sakamoto + ...(was it Nascimento?... can't recall) cut is quite fine, as are many others. An interesting experiment, this record, and it succeeds about half the time, which is quite a good hit/miss ratio, considering the number of trax. M. Monte gives us her toosexyforabeat vox. Love the two records of Marina Lima. Some quite fascinating fusions that will move you, a Brazil nightclub of sensuous moods. 3
1997-01-03 22:59Nuno ProencaAt 13:34 03-01-1997 -0500, Zenon M. Feszczak wrote: >The jungle-samba cut by Everything Bu
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At 13:34 03-01-1997 -0500, Zenon M. Feszczak wrote:
quoted 1 line The jungle-samba cut by Everything But the Grrrl kicks it all out. I was>The jungle-samba cut by Everything But the Grrrl kicks it all out. I was
quite impressed. Didn't know Ms. EBtG had such a sure command of the mellifluous Portugeazy tongue. Don't get all freudian now. Watch out ! I'm Portuguese, therefore speaking that so called mellifluous language. Watch your back. I'll be hunting you down :-) If anyone needs anything feel free to ask. BTW I can buy Brazilian music in every record store. And no, there will never be anyone playing brazilian music as they do. It's mood and feeling come half from the music, half from the lirics/tone of voice. If you're not Brazilian forget it. SWM-"We are sound. We are never what you think we are. Creating sonic landscapes in order to preserve imagination. We love you and want you to join the sound with us." Melhores Cumprimentos, Nuno Proença
1997-01-03 23:56tweibrecht@juno.comEBTG was a suprise to me also...if u like marina lima, ud be VERY wise to check out her so
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EBTG was a suprise to me also...if u like marina lima, ud be VERY wise to check out her solo stuff when she was known as ....marina....d+b via samba...caliente... tom w np: r.wyatt - dondestan On Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:34:45 -0500 "Zenon M. Feszczak" <feszczak@sas.upenn.edu> writes:
quoted 19 lines red,hot + rio is a decent sampler, imo...> > red,hot + rio is a decent sampler, imo... > >The jungle-samba cut by Everything But the Grrrl kicks it all out. I >was quite impressed. Didn't know Ms. EBtG had such a sure command of >the mellifluous Portugeazy tongue. Don't get all freudian now. > >The Sakamoto + ...(was it Nascimento?... can't recall) cut is quite >fine, as are many others. An interesting experiment, this record, and >it succeeds about half the time, which is quite a good hit/miss ratio, >considering the number of trax. M. Monte gives us her toosexyforabeat >vox. > >Love the two records of Marina Lima. Some quite fascinating fusions >that will move you, a Brazil nightclub of sensuous moods. > >3 > > >
1997-01-04 04:55ElectronHi Pedro, At 23:01 02.01.1997 -0800, Pedro Cevallos <pceval01@fiu.edu> wrote: >My aunt let
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Hi Pedro, At 23:01 02.01.1997 -0800, Pedro Cevallos <pceval01@fiu.edu> wrote:
quoted 9 lines My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa,>My aunt let me *borrow* 25+ of her old Brazilian LPs (Samba, Novabossa, >Antonio Carlos Jobim, Joao Gilberto, Stan Getz, Luis Bonfa, >Charlie Byrd, Martinho Davila, Tamba Trio, Black Orpheus Movie Sountrack, >and many more). I've been mixing them with some of my jungle and acid >jazz records with great success. They just seem to fit perfectly. My >aunt, unfortunately, wants them back. Does anybody know: > >1. Are these old records still available? If so, where? >2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa?
well, since I got some latino-house records in Miami last year, I use them to mix latin-sounds with techno (usual with minimal stuff from Detroit or Berlin). Esp. I like to use the more original versions (without the phat house beat). You can ask Stryke (how is he, btw) about it. So I think I have an idea about what you mean. I also like old jazz-funk, hip-hop or even ska records (although because of the much slower speeds, thats more something for sampling) in combination with drum'n bass and electro. I like that contrast of electronical/mechanical/artificial techno and human/expressive/accoustic sounds. cya electron Sounds and Visions from the Wicked World of Electronic Dance Music http://music.city.de/wicked
1997-01-06 18:37Otto KoppiusOn Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:57:34 -0500 (EST), Pedro Cevallos <pceval01@fiu.edu> wrote: >1. Are
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On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:57:34 -0500 (EST), Pedro Cevallos <pceval01@fiu.edu> wrote:
quoted 1 line 1. Are these old records still available? If so, where?>1. Are these old records still available? If so, where?
I don't have any specific adressesses or stores, but my guess would be that New York definitely has specialized Brazilian stores , given its large latin population.
quoted 1 line 2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa?>2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa?
Yeah! Although only for the past few months, so I'm just scratching the surface of The Latin Treasure (TM applied for *grin*). One of the must-haves IMO is the double CD 'Nu Yorica: Culture Clash in New York City', subtitled 'Experiments in Latin music 1970-1977' Even though these tracks are 20+ years old, these guys can teach today's artists a thing or two about funkiness and building a groove! Some names: Eddie Palmieri, Joe Bataan (anyone remember Rap-O Clap-O? :) ), Harlem River Drive and the aptly titled Grupo Folklorico Y Experimentales Nuevayuercino. Added bonus: a very informative booklet! Adios, Otto
1997-01-06 20:59tweibrecht@juno.comwhile were at it, (and nu yorica is excellent) try africando: Trovador and africando II...
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while were at it, (and nu yorica is excellent) try africando: Trovador and africando II...african musicians get lost in nyc in the early 70s; meet salsa guys and put out explosive album...should be a movie....tom w np: dub syndicate - research and development On Mon, 6 Jan 97 12:37:00 CST "Otto Koppius" <o.r.koppius@student.utwente.nl> writes:
quoted 36 lines On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:57:34 -0500 (EST),>On Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:57:34 -0500 (EST), >Pedro Cevallos <pceval01@fiu.edu> wrote: > >>1. Are these old records still available? If so, where? > >I don't have any specific adressesses or stores, but my guess would be >that >New York definitely has specialized Brazilian stores , given its large > >latin population. > >>2. Has anybody ventured into the realm of Acid-Jazz-Samba-Novabossa? > >Yeah! Although only for the past few months, so I'm just scratching >the >surface of The Latin Treasure (TM applied for *grin*). > >One of the must-haves IMO is the double CD 'Nu Yorica: Culture Clash >in New >York City', subtitled 'Experiments in Latin music 1970-1977' >Even though these tracks are 20+ years old, these guys can teach >today's >artists a thing or two about funkiness and building a groove! Some >names: >Eddie Palmieri, Joe Bataan (anyone remember Rap-O Clap-O? :) ), Harlem > >River Drive and the aptly titled Grupo Folklorico Y Experimentales >Nuevayuercino. > >Added bonus: a very informative booklet! > >Adios, > >Otto > >