IDM Mailing Archive

David Jones wrote:

quoted 6 lines On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:26:51 -0600 Blipvert <blipvert@snider.net> wrote:

> > On Sat, 16 Nov 1996 10:26:51 -0600 Blipvert <blipvert@snider.net> wrote: > %and KS(Riley, Reich, Glass<who was actually inspired by Eno and later > %worked with Richard James>). > > Uh, don't you have that part about Eno and Glass backwards? Eno and Bryars

No, it went both ways.

quoted 2 lines were inspired by the American minimalists. Glass has written pieces

> were inspired by the American minimalists. Glass has written pieces > inspired by the Eno/Bowie collaborations "low" and "heroes", but his style

If this was all that I was refering to, I would still be correct.

quoted 2 lines was pretty much established in the late 60's way before he ever would have

> was pretty much established in the late 60's way before he ever would have > heard about Eno.

Bowie and Eno attended performances of Glass' work while working on Low. They were later told by Glass that some of Eno's work had inspired him. I read this in Wire or somethnig- don't remember the details. There was no clear case of one way inspiration among Eno and Glass. This is kind of away from the point that I was making regarding the inspiration of classical on IDM, anyway.

quoted 2 lines My question is, is the above at all an accurate notion, or another mainstream

> > My question is, is the above at all an accurate notion, or another mainstream > > magazine trying to simplify a complex musical genre?

I laughed when I was at my local bookstore and looked at this little chart. The one with Trip-Hop being the final iteration. First of all Trip-Hop is one of the most overloaded buzzwords around. Chem Bros. claim they are Trip-Hop. It's been used to describe Portishead and Tricky. Ninja Tune is used as an example. My feelings on Trip-Hop is that is a DJ's art. It's the Hip-Hop beats spun into a drippy little mess. I think the Blechsdottir comp hits on this in some parts. But what really made me chuckle was that they declared "Trip Hop" as the ultimate end with the "intelligent techno" genre leading up to it. Maybe I interpretted this wrong, but to say that music like "Orbital" and "Warp Label" as precursor to the "Chemical Brothers" and "Tricky" is just plain wrong. Chem Bros and Tricky and interesting to listen too, but don't stack up vs. the Vibert's and James'es of the world.

quoted 7 lines Personally, my route of discovery of IDM went a little something like

> Personally, my route of discovery of IDM went a little something like > this: > > Motley Crue and "breakdance music" -> Judas Priest (cool guitar synths!) > -> LL Cool J -> INXS -> Depeche Mode & OMD -> NIN/Front 242-> The KLF -> > The Stone Roses -> 808 State -> reading a review of Artificail > Intelligence II in the university paper -> purchase of AI II.

I went from Metal->Hip Hop->Alternative->Electronica route myself.

quoted 5 lines Instant amazement! Throw in my first internet experience and a heavy

> Instant amazement! Throw in my first internet experience and a heavy > dose of hyperreal web surfing = IDM nut! > > Dave. >

(*) Fresh and Full of Life Brian Tang NYC http://silly.com/~tang

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