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1996-08-09 12:40Maarten D. Schermer Re: (idm) Diceman?
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1996-08-08 20:07GMerchan@gnn.com (Gonzi Merchan (Fresh))What exactly does RDJ have to do with those Diceman 12' I often see credited to him, but n
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What exactly does RDJ have to do with those Diceman 12' I often see credited to him, but not on fluid's discography? An explanation would be appreciated. Sorry if this subject has come up before, but it hasn't since I've been a listmember... /""'' /"'RESH Live and Direct from the G-Spot Orange County, California, USA
1996-08-09 04:08Ren8sance@aol.com>What exactly does RDJ have to do with those Diceman 12' I often see >credited to him, but
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quoted 4 lines What exactly does RDJ have to do with those Diceman 12' I often see>What exactly does RDJ have to do with those Diceman 12' I often see >credited to him, but not on fluid's discography? An explanation >would be appreciated. Sorry if this subject has come up before, but >it hasn't since I've been a listmember...
It's not on Fluid's Discog because it isn't Aphex. PERIOD. I saved this email because I knew it would come up again.... ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
quoted 1 line Can someone tell me anything about these Diceman EP's I keep finding?> Can someone tell me anything about these Diceman EP's I keep finding?
DICEMAN is one of the many pseudonyms used by Jolly James/Colin James. He is also LMNO, EMANON, BOB AND IAN, and SOLACE. It's pretty weak blip bloop repetetive housey boring stuff. As far as I know, there's only one actual release by DICEMAN (called "Le Noir"), and I think other tracks appear on some other split Vivatonal Records release. Anyway, this project is definitely not to be confused with the RDJ alias (from AI.1) as quite a few people originally thought. One of the tracks on the 12" e.p., "Gris" (I think - I can't remember), uses the same exact spoken-word sample (all the way straight through) as in the MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO song, "God O.D. (part 2)" - it's the 'children of the beloved' one. I have this theory that Greg Retch (ex-MBM) has something to do with DICEMAN. In fact, there is a Vivatonal compilation that features a piece on it which was the opening noise intro to MBM's first tour (it's called "Admission", and it's credited to MUSICAL DIRECTOR). Unless someone else has anything to add, that's all I know. In addition though, here is an article out of the _New Music Express_ "Info Feako" section from March of 1995 (as typed up/transcribed by Maarten D. Schermer <slavlab@xs4all.nl>), which may shed a little bit more light on the subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Aural Exciter I've seen a compilation CD called "Vivatonal" featuring tracks by The Diceman. I know that this is one of the pseudonyms by Richard D. James of Aphex Twin fame, but I've never come across any of these titles before. Can you shed any light on this? (...) - Angus Bryant, Rugby Richard James, aka Aphex Twin Polygon Window, AFX and several thousand other names, has only released one track as The Diceman, the confusingly entitled "Polygon Window" on Warp Records' 1992 "Artificial Intelligence" compilation (LP/CD, WARPLP/CD 6). He was subsequently forced to drop this name when a previously existing Diceman took umbrage, and it's this Diceman who appears on the "Vivatonal" collection (Vivatonal CD, VTTCD 01). The original Diceman is, to add further confusion, an unrelated Colin James. "Vivatonal", which feature mixes by Kris Needs, The Sabres Of Paradise and Spooky, is actually entirely the work of Colin James working under no less than five pseudonyms. (...)" --------------------------------------------------------------------------
1996-08-12 06:16Christopher MillerOh. That was me who wrote the below stuff about THE DICEMAN. Anyway, just recently an inte
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Mon, 12 Aug 1996 02:16:39 -0400 (EDT)
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Oh. That was me who wrote the below stuff about THE DICEMAN. Anyway, just recently an interviewer from the MBM list asked Jack Dangers what Greg Retch's real name was... ...you guessed it: `Colin James'. Thhat means that THE DICEMAN is none other than ex-MBM scratcher, DJ Greg Retch! NOT Richard James. Let's put this to rest once and for all. Therefore, the next FS list I see with THE DICEMAN under the `APHEX/ RePhLeX and related' section should be flamed in accordance... or something like that. This is as bad as mis-labeling those UNIVERSAL INDICATOR records. That's it. The End. namecid. .`-). qp -' christopher miller ==' evil@digital.net ' On Fri, 9 Aug 1996 Ren8sance@aol.com wrote:
quoted 52 lines It's not on Fluid's Discog because it isn't Aphex. PERIOD. I saved this> It's not on Fluid's Discog because it isn't Aphex. PERIOD. I saved this > email because I knew it would come up again.... > > :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: > > Can someone tell me anything about these Diceman EP's I keep finding? > > DICEMAN is one of the many pseudonyms used by Jolly James/Colin > James. He is also LMNO, EMANON, BOB AND IAN, and SOLACE. It's pretty > weak blip bloop repetetive housey boring stuff. > > As far as I know, there's only one actual release by DICEMAN (called > "Le Noir"), and I think other tracks appear on some other split Vivatonal > Records release. Anyway, this project is definitely not to be confused > with the RDJ alias (from AI.1) as quite a few people originally thought. > > One of the tracks on the 12" e.p., "Gris" (I think - I can't > remember), uses the same exact spoken-word sample (all the way straight > through) as in the MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO song, "God O.D. (part 2)" - it's > the 'children of the beloved' one. I have this theory that Greg Retch > (ex-MBM) has something to do with DICEMAN. In fact, there is a Vivatonal > compilation that features a piece on it which was the opening noise intro > to MBM's first tour (it's called "Admission", and it's credited to MUSICAL > DIRECTOR). > > Unless someone else has anything to add, that's all I know. In > addition though, here is an article out of the _New Music Express_ "Info > Feako" section from March of 1995 (as typed up/transcribed by Maarten D. > Schermer <slavlab@xs4all.nl>), which may shed a little bit more light on > the subject: > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "Aural Exciter > > I've seen a compilation CD called "Vivatonal" featuring tracks by The > Diceman. I know that this is one of the pseudonyms by Richard D. James of > Aphex Twin fame, but I've never come across any of these titles before. > Can you shed any light on this? (...) > - Angus Bryant, Rugby > > Richard James, aka Aphex Twin Polygon Window, AFX and several > thousand other names, has only released one track as The Diceman, the > confusingly entitled "Polygon Window" on Warp Records' 1992 "Artificial > Intelligence" compilation (LP/CD, WARPLP/CD 6). He was subsequently > forced to drop this name when a previously existing Diceman took umbrage, > and it's this Diceman who appears on the "Vivatonal" collection (Vivatonal > CD, VTTCD 01). The original Diceman is, to add further confusion, an > unrelated Colin James. "Vivatonal", which feature mixes by Kris Needs, The > Sabres Of Paradise and Spooky, is actually entirely the work of Colin > James working under no less than five pseudonyms. (...)" > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >
.`-). qp -' christopher miller ==' evil@digital.net '
1996-08-12 22:08Jeff GageOn Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Christopher Miller wrote: > That was me who wrote the below stuff abo
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On Mon, 12 Aug 1996, Christopher Miller wrote:
quoted 7 lines That was me who wrote the below stuff about THE DICEMAN. Anyway, just> That was me who wrote the below stuff about THE DICEMAN. Anyway, just > recently an interviewer from the MBM list asked Jack Dangers what Greg Retch's > real name was... > > ...you guessed it: `Colin James'. Thhat means that THE DICEMAN is none > other than ex-MBM scratcher, DJ Greg Retch! NOT Richard James. Let's put this > to rest once and for all.
My CD copy of Analogue Bubblebath 3 by A/F/X says that RDJ is also "The Diceman"... who's fooling who, here?
quoted 8 lines Richard James, aka Aphex Twin Polygon Window, AFX and several> > Richard James, aka Aphex Twin Polygon Window, AFX and several > > thousand other names, has only released one track as The Diceman, the > > confusingly entitled "Polygon Window" on Warp Records' 1992 "Artificial > > Intelligence" compilation (LP/CD, WARPLP/CD 6). He was subsequently > > forced to drop this name when a previously existing Diceman took umbrage, > > and it's this Diceman who appears on the "Vivatonal" collection (Vivatonal > > CD, VTTCD 01). The original Diceman is, to add further confusion, an > > unrelated Colin James.
Hmmm reading farther into the quoted messages seems to answer my own question. "We can all be right together! :) :) " I suppose that lays it all to rest... -jeff ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Jeffrey D.Gerard (Jeff Gage) http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/j-gerard/ mailto:j-gerard@uiuc.edu (personal) voicephone://217-344-3957 mailto:j-gerard@ncsa.uiuc.edu (business) pager://217-xxx-xxxx ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1996-08-09 12:40Maarten D. Schermer> As far as I know, there's only one actual release by DICEMAN (called >"Le Noir"), and I
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Fri, 9 Aug 1996 12:40:58 +0200 (MET DST)
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quoted 3 lines As far as I know, there's only one actual release by DICEMAN (called> As far as I know, there's only one actual release by DICEMAN (called >"Le Noir"), and I think other tracks appear on some other split Vivatonal >Records release. Anyway, this project is definitely not to be confused
There's plenty more: Quad 12" (Brainiak) The tempest 12" (Vivatonal) Supervisor error 12" (Vivatonal) Sonic system 12" (Vivatonal) Le noir 12" (Vivatonal) Sonic system (remix) 12" (Vivatonal) All of which are pretty good (IMO). And none of which are by RDJ. Maarten on now: Woodenspoon