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(idm) Re: truth is born of acid

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1996-07-31 07:47James B Gill (idm) truth is born of acid
└─ 1996-07-31 12:35Greg Earle (idm) Re: truth is born of acid
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1996-07-31 07:47James B GillOn 30 Jul 1996, Helen Adriaens wrote: > I can agree with 'Weathered Well' being somewhat d
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On 30 Jul 1996, Helen Adriaens wrote:
quoted 4 lines I can agree with 'Weathered Well' being somewhat dark and capable of inducing> I can agree with 'Weathered Well' being somewhat dark and capable of inducing > hefty nightmares. But 'Truth ...' ? I find this record is full of hope and > longing (not dread), which to me can never be dark. So beautiful ... so > indescribably beautiful.
what? "Full of hope" is not how I would describe this record. More like "Full of pins and needles in my body with ants crawling all over me and my ex girlfriend with a big butcher knife cutting me in places I'd rather not mention." This is _the_ darkest record I've heard in the Ambient genre; I find little "Hope" here, and upon listening to it for the first time, had to take 25 pills of Prozac just to feel halfway normal again. With track titles like "I feel cold inside because of the things you say" etc, etc this man seems like he is in a void, a feeling that I thought I'd felt until I listened to "truth..", but then realised that his pain and suffering is a lot darker and scarier than most all else I'd experienced. all imho of course... _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- J A M E S B E N J A M I N G I L L U N F O R T U N A T E L Y L I V I N G I N A R I Z O N A J G I L L @ U . A R I Z O N A . E D U (ron trent is *still* the bomb!)
1996-07-31 12:35Greg EarleJames B Gill intones: > On 30 Jul 1996, Helen Adriaens wrote: > >> I can agree with 'Weath
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James B Gill intones:
quoted 3 lines On 30 Jul 1996, Helen Adriaens wrote:> On 30 Jul 1996, Helen Adriaens wrote: > >> I can agree with 'Weathered Well' being somewhat dark and capable of
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quoted 10 lines hefty nightmares. But 'Truth ...' ? I find this record is full of hope and>> hefty nightmares. But 'Truth ...' ? I find this record is full of hope and >> longing (not dread), which to me can never be dark. So beautiful ... so >> indescribably beautiful. > > what? "Full of hope" is not how I would describe this record. More like > "Full of pins and needles in my body with ants crawling all over me and my > ex girlfriend with a big butcher knife cutting me in places I'd rather not > mention." This is _the_ darkest record I've heard in the Ambient genre; I > find little "Hope" here, and upon listening to it for the first time, had > to take 25 pills of Prozac just to feel halfway normal again.
(Leaping in to Helen's defense, not like she needs it mind you ... ) Some people are just wired differently. Ask 99% of people who have heard Joy Division (Sherman, set the Wayback for ... ) to describe them and the GCF (greatest common factor) will - guaranteed - be "depressing". Yet the sensation I get from "Atmosphere", "Dead Souls", "I Remember Nothing", "The Only Mistake", (aw heck, the whole bloody JD canon) is pure elation. Different people have different emotional reactions to music. I can't ever put a Dead Can Dance record on; the other half runs over to shut it off - "it makes me depressed!". I never understood that kind of emotional reaction to music (since it didn't happen to me). Three years ago when my father died, we had a bagpiper play "Amazing Grace" at the end of the funeral. It turned out to be not so good of an idea in a way, because a year and a half later, I was in San Francisco's Moscone Center for Networld+InterOp. At the end of the last day of vendor exhibits, the Hewlett-Packard booth started playing a bagpipes' "Amazing Grace" really loudly right as I was walking by. I literally ran screaming out of the building. (Funny thing, music ... ) OnNow: A Holmes mini-fan ("This room's hot, let's cool the CPU") - Greg P.S. Sorry for the non-IDM tangent. Any of y'all going to the Transatlantic Move in Miami/Bahamas in late September? (9/27-9/29)