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1996-06-25 00:05Sean Cooper (idm) Re: idm V1 #567
└─ 1996-06-25 11:44James Skilton (idm) Junior Reid : was Re: idm V1 #567
├─ 1996-06-25 11:50James Skilton (idm) Junior Reid : was Re: idm V1 #567
└─ 1996-06-25 14:21R D Wigglesworth (idm) Re: Junior Reid and Mike'n' Rich
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1996-06-25 00:05Sean CooperR D Wigglesworth <R.Wigglesworth@sheffield.ac.uk> asked: >A totally un-idm question now fo
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(idm) Re: idm V1 #567
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R D Wigglesworth <R.Wigglesworth@sheffield.ac.uk> asked:
quoted 9 lines A totally un-idm question now follows....>A totally un-idm question now follows.... > >There's a well good track on the Coldcut mix cd by one >Junior Reid called "One Blood". This is a ragga/jungle type thing >and I love it. I've ordered a copy of the album with the same title, >but some shops reckon it's deleted (in the UK). Any info? anyone? > >A review of said album perhaps? Perhaps J.B.Gill can help us out with >this one.
junior reid, to my knowledge, doesn't have any strictly jungle material out. the track you refer to on _70 minutes of madness_ is, i think, a pretty standard reggae/dancehall track matched with the truper's (photek's) "street beats vol. 2." one of the things that makes that coldcut cd so brilliant is their ability to make almost seamless connections across spans of widely disparate material (of course, jungle and reggae are closely related, but parkes' take on it is hardly conventional). photek's drum patterns match so precisely the rhythm and pitch of reid's voice that it sounds like all one track. masters at work also sampled "one blood" on their "blood vibes," released by cutting (listed on _70 minutes of madness_, about 40 minutes after the photek/reid bit, although the actual track they use is "justa lil dope," which is paired with "blood vibes" on the original cutting twelve inch...anyone else notice that error?). somebody please work my ass if i'm wrong about this... sc p.s. the even pairing of reid and photek tracks is also a pretty stunning metaphor for the role of jungle as a racial unifying force in club culture...reid's pleading cries paired with photek's haunting synth accent gives me chills every time!
1996-06-25 11:44James Skilton> R D Wigglesworth <R.Wigglesworth@sheffield.ac.uk> asked: > > >A totally un-idm question
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Tue, 25 Jun 96 12:44:56 +0100 (BST)
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(idm) Junior Reid : was Re: idm V1 #567
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quoted 11 lines R D Wigglesworth <R.Wigglesworth@sheffield.ac.uk> asked:> R D Wigglesworth <R.Wigglesworth@sheffield.ac.uk> asked: > > >A totally un-idm question now follows.... > > > >There's a well good track on the Coldcut mix cd by one > >Junior Reid called "One Blood". This is a ragga/jungle type thing > >and I love it. I've ordered a copy of the album with the same title, > >but some shops reckon it's deleted (in the UK). Any info? anyone? > > > >A review of said album perhaps? Perhaps J.B.Gill can help us out with > >this one.
andSean Cooper wrote on Tue, 25 Jun 96 01:05:02 BST :
quoted 2 lines junior reid, to my knowledge, doesn't have any strictly jungle material> junior reid, to my knowledge, doesn't have any strictly jungle material > out. the track you refer to on _70 minutes of madness_ is, i think, a
This is because on the Coldcut CD, the junior Reid track is actually being mixed with a jungle track (the next or previous one off the tracklisting) , yes the mixing is that good. I hadn't realised just how totally seamless this must sound as I know the original track. J ^
1996-06-25 11:50James SkiltonPS. so I meant to say, yes Sean Cooper, you are right. J ^
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(idm) Junior Reid : was Re: idm V1 #567
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PS. so I meant to say, yes Sean Cooper, you are right. J ^
1996-06-25 14:21R D WigglesworthOn Tue, 25 Jun 1996, James Skilton wrote: BSean Cooper wrote on Tue, 25 Jun 6 01:05:02 BST
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Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:21:28 +0100 (BST)
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(idm) Re: Junior Reid and Mike'n' Rich
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On Tue, 25 Jun 1996, James Skilton wrote: BSean Cooper wrote on Tue, 25 Jun 6 01:05:02 BST :
quoted 13 lines junior reid, to my knowledge, doesn't have any strictly jungle material> > > junior reid, to my knowledge, doesn't have any strictly jungle material > > out. the track you refer to on _70 minutes of madness_ is, i think, a > > This is because on the Coldcut CD, the junior Reid track is actually being > mixed with a jungle track (the next or previous one off the tracklisting) , yes > the mixing is that good. I hadn't realised just how totally seamless this must > sound as I know the original track. > > J > ^ > >
Thanks for clearing that one up! Makes you realise how good Coldcut's mixing is doesn't it? The mix of (my current fave) 'King of the Beats'sounds quite chopped up on the '70 minutes of madness' as well. ALSO: On June 25, rephlex wrote:
quoted 1 line tracks comes close to what I expected>>tracks comes close to what I expected
quoted 3 lines If it was what you were expecting then it wouldn't be cutting edge techno>If it was what you were expecting then it wouldn't be cutting edge techno >music would it? Once again you haven't listened to the record properly. >You can't review it properly for another week at least, I don't think.
This I have to agree with. I've been amazed by some people's responses to this record. Were peple REALLY expecting another 'Polygon Window' type album? You can't diss an album that we've all been waiting for for nearly two years just because it's not like earlier stuff. After all, isn't IDM supposed to be one of the fastest evolving musical styles, taking influences from everywhere and anywhere and not getting stuck into a routine? This one doesn't disappoint. The mixture of Mike's funky electric piano playing (eg) and Rich's crunchy rythms and melodies is a REAL treat. AND some of the most bizzare sample loops I've heard this side of tricky, that sound like they shouldn't work, but do....(eg- Bu Bu Bu Bam and the 3rd track etc.) Richard W