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(idm) Autechre's "Music" (was Re: autechre=overrated?)

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1996-03-28 18:20Gonzalo Merchan Re: (idm) autechre=overrated?
└─ 1996-03-29 03:49Phil Downey Re: (idm) autechre=overrated?
└─ 1996-03-29 22:08Mark Kolmar Re: (idm) autechre=overrated?
└─ 1996-03-30 05:19Michael Upton (idm) Autechre's "Music" (was Re: autechre=overrated?)
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1996-03-28 18:20Gonzalo Merchan>Richard James: I don't get it. Clearly then, you're missing something the rest of us 'get
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quoted 1 line Richard James: I don't get it.>Richard James: I don't get it.
Clearly then, you're missing something the rest of us 'get'. Richard James music is, I personally feel, worlds different then Autchre's. Autechre's music is very rigid, mechanical, sometimes stiff, but always interesting. Aphex's music is filled with life, playfullness, at times profound sadness...there's always some very human emotion buried in those haunting melodies he creates. At any rate, there's my two cents in what is I'm sure going to be a messy debate. -Fresh
1996-03-29 03:49Phil Downey> >Richard James: I don't get it. > I think the reason that most people like RDJ is the fo
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quoted 2 lines Richard James: I don't get it.> >Richard James: I don't get it. >
I think the reason that most people like RDJ is the following. His music for the most part is a constant battle between beauty and the beast, (or is that beats)? Between the sublime, gorgeous melodies, he manages to fuse in everything from detroit grooves to crushing industrial beats. The best of examples of this would be: xepha, start as you mean to go on, and .21509 or some such number from analogue bubblebath III. If these ones don't move you, give up on the aphex twin. Phil Downey
1996-03-29 22:08Mark KolmarHis noodly melodies are, to my ears, the least interesting part of his music. I'd go as fa
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His noodly melodies are, to my ears, the least interesting part of his music. I'd go as far as to say the melodies detract from the overall effect. Take this with a grain of salt -- I'd like a lot of Autechre's work better without the chords. Most of the time this sort-of sci-fi, futuristic sound will transport me more easily when it avoids traditional harmony and melody. At the same time I realize many people want to leaven futurism with tradition (both as listeners and composers). --Mark On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Phil Downey wrote:
quoted 4 lines Richard James: I don't get it.> > >Richard James: I don't get it. > > > Between the sublime, gorgeous melodies, he manages to fuse in everything > from detroit grooves to crushing industrial beats.
1996-03-30 05:19Michael UptonOn Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Mark Kolmar wrote: > Take this with a grain of salt -- I'd like a lot
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On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Mark Kolmar wrote:
quoted 5 lines Take this with a grain of salt -- I'd like a lot of Autechre's work> Take this with a grain of salt -- I'd like a lot of Autechre's work > better without the chords. Most of the time this sort-of sci-fi, > futuristic sound will transport me more easily when it avoids traditional > harmony and melody. At the same time I realize many people want to leaven > futurism with tradition (both as listeners and composers).
Each to their own, but one of the things I like about Autechre is the unconventional things they do with harmony and so forth. For example, I think it's the second track on 'Tri Repetae' where they play one chord over and over, but alternating between the major and the minor third. In terms of trad harmony that's a big no-no. Also on the last track ('rsdio'?) of that album, the main riff is a simple one-four-five progression (think 'Wild Thing', 'Louie Louie', etc.), yet the rest of the music buggers about in all kinds of crazy keys. Excuse me if I'm being a trainspotter. :-) Michael ______________________________________________________________________________ scrot@sans.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Upton) Leaping octaves in a single bound ______________________________________________________________________________