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Re: Vocals in IDM? (was Re: (idm) Underworld, IDM?)

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1996-03-27 13:39Erkki Rautio Vocals in IDM? (was Re: (idm) Underworld, IDM?)
└─ 1996-03-28 03:47Arjun Re: Vocals in IDM? (was Re: (idm) Underworld, IDM?)
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1996-03-27 13:39Erkki RautioAdding to our recent conversation on lyrics/vocals in IDM, here's a rather interesting ext
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Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:39:33 +0200 (EET)
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Vocals in IDM? (was Re: (idm) Underworld, IDM?)
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Adding to our recent conversation on lyrics/vocals in IDM, here's a rather interesting extract from Pascal Bussy's book on Kraftwerk, "Man, Machine and Music" (SAF Publishing 1993; ISBN 0 946719 098), concerning the vocals on their 1974 hit "Autobahn": "Like many of their subsequent pieces, it is really less of a lyric and more of a minimal vocal accompaniment which, rather than telling a story, merely punctuates the music. Obviously the words add meaning, but there is also a sense of them being used purely for their phonetic sound, almost like a nursery rhyme, with the famous line, "wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn". The words as they are sung almost sound English, "fun, fun, fun on the autobahn", sounding reminiscent of The Beach Boys. It is typical of the detached and mechanically half-spoken way that they would later use phrases in German, English and French alike, merely for the sound of them, without purposefully working in one language or another. As [Ralf] Hutter explained to Geoff Barton in _Sounds_ [in November 1975]: 'We use language also as a musical instrument. It's like when we sing. People say it's too low, we cannot understand the singer. But we are not singers in the sense of Rod Stewart, we use our voices as another instrument. Language is just another pattern of rhythm, it is another part of our unified sound.' " So, maybe it's not so much of a question of what do you say, but rather _how_ do you say it, using vocals as just another texture alongside the music... --- ERkki TampHexster, pHinland trerra@uta.fi
1996-03-28 03:47ArjunOn Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Erkki Rautio wrote: > > Adding to our recent conversation on lyrics/v
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Re: Vocals in IDM? (was Re: (idm) Underworld, IDM?)
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On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Erkki Rautio wrote:
quoted 17 lines Adding to our recent conversation on lyrics/vocals in IDM, here's a> > Adding to our recent conversation on lyrics/vocals in IDM, here's a > rather interesting extract from Pascal Bussy's book on Kraftwerk, > "Man, Machine and Music" (SAF Publishing 1993; ISBN 0 946719 098), > concerning the vocals on their 1974 hit "Autobahn": > > 'We use language also as a musical instrument. It's like when we sing. > People say it's too low, we cannot understand the singer. But we are > not singers in the sense of Rod Stewart, we use our voices as another > instrument. Language is just another pattern of rhythm, it is another > part of our unified sound.' " > > So, maybe it's not so much of a question of what do you say, but > rather _how_ do you say it, using vocals as just another texture > alongside the music... > >
This same approach to to using lyrics has been expressed by Brian Eno and Bono as of late, and can be heard in early R.E.M. (sorry for the non-IDM digression)