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Sorry this is a bit of a late entry but I only checked my e mail for the 1st time in a week just now... I was way too young to be into electro when it was around in the early eighties but now I'm pretty much into it. I think its due to the fact that I was into rap, then got into techno/ambient/idm, and subsequently discovered electro as a fusion between the two. Electro benefits from rap's populist tendencies and attitude, and also from techno's futurism and (lets face it) interesting squelchy noises... yeah, so it sometimes sounds cheesy but thats to be expected considering how old it is! If the current crop of electro revivalists get it right you'll be hearing some phenomenal records, otherwise they're just re-treading the same old ground. Oh, and another thing I heard recently which blew me away was "Acid Over" by Tyree which is an old school house track. The vocodered vocals, rap and 303 line are so simple its just amazing! What else did Tyree ever do and what did it all sound like? And if you don't know anything about Tyree I suggest you get hold of this track cos its rockin...! Brendan Nelson Kinetic Illusion

How about the DJ Fast Eddie...? Dope,Dope,Dope. Jack to the sounds of the underground. On Thu, 16 Mar 1995, rbcIII wrote:

quoted 22 lines On Thu, 16 Mar 1995, Brendan Nelson wrote:

> > On Thu, 16 Mar 1995, Brendan Nelson wrote: > > > Oh, and another thing I heard recently which blew me away was "Acid Over" > > by Tyree which is an old school house track. The vocodered vocals, rap and > > 303 line are so simple its just amazing! What else did Tyree ever do and > > what did it all sound like? And if you don't know anything about Tyree I > > suggest you get hold of this track cos its rockin...! > > "One, two, three, shake your body, shake your body. > Say one, two, three, jack the house ya'll, jack the house ya'll!" > > Check out the instrumental mix without the vocoder and cheesoid orchestra > strike. Pure Chicago acid... > > -robert > ______________________________________________*AudioElectronic*_____ > "If BOTH the SAW and the PULSE switches are on, sonic explorers \ > then both sawtooth and pulse waves are selected. \ > This combination creates an extremely fat sound." OB-8 manual ____\ > >

I would be willing to review Drexciya 2 and 4 if someone hasn't done so all ready. Also what do you all think of AFX's Isopropophlex? Very Electro-e but kinda faster.. ted

TW> From: Ted Weinberg <abductee@cyberspace.org> TW> I would be willing to review Drexciya 2 and 4 if someone hasn't done so TW> all ready. Also what do you all think of AFX's Isopropophlex? Very TW> Electro-e but kinda faster.. I like that track a lot. It's on his ABB I isn't it? I thought it was the best track on the EP. Really punping. That's one of RD James' best qualities, to make a track really pump and full of energy... TW> ted CU!

quoted 8 lines Dave basically calls it right.

> >Dave basically calls it right. > >The new buzz word is 'electro', but the old-school has always known it >as techno bass. > >Miami bass likes to steal samples from Detroit techno bass records... >

Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights remix of antacid had an electro-revival remix on it. Is this the sam sort of stuff people used to breakdance to a few years back and if so what the hell is all the fuss about. It's not new and personally I think it's crap. I would say that I'm fairly open-minded but I thought that music was supposed to make you feel something which electro doesn't seem to, Derek (U.A.F.)

quoted 10 lines Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi

> Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi > knights remix of antacid had an electro-revival remix on it. Is > this the sam sort of stuff people used to breakdance to a few years > back and if so what the hell is all the fuss about. It's not new > and personally I think it's crap. I would say that I'm fairly > open-minded but I thought that music was supposed to make you feel > something which electro doesn't seem to, > > Derek (U.A.F.) >

Aha! so its true, we don't all like electro! :) Yes there is a superb electro remix of Antacid on the recent Link Single on WARP/Evolution, but only if you like that sort of thing! It is the best old school electro track that was never releases in the early eighties - it certainly makes me feel good! J ^ James Skilton aka Steady J - jamess@firefox.co.uk ^---+ What's in the basket? My Brother!

On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Derek Corcoran wrote:

quoted 3 lines hell is all the fuss about. It's not new and personally I think it's crap.

> hell is all the fuss about. It's not new and personally I think it's crap. > I would say that I'm fairly open-minded but I thought that music was > supposed to make you feel something which electro doesn't seem to,

Well, everyone's entitled to an opinion, of course. Personally, tracks like Air Liquide's "Robot Wars", Kraftwerk's "Numbers" and Red Planet's "Season Of The Solar Wind" remind me of what got me into electronic music in the first place. If anything, the fact that a discussion of contemporary electronic dance and listening music can encompass elements as disparate as Global Communication's "Ob-selon Mi Nos" and Drexciya's "Livin On the Edge" is a sign to me of its continuing vitality and movement. I was having a discussion with a friend earlier in the year, talking about the fact that electro was probably going to be hyped as much in the music press in 1995 as jungle was last year. He asked me: "so when do you think the backlash will start?" I answered: "oh, probably about April or so." -d.w.

On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Derek Corcoran wrote:

quoted 6 lines Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights

> Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights > remix of antacid had an electro-revival remix on it. Is this the sam sort of > stuff people used to breakdance to a few years back and if so what the > hell is all the fuss about. It's not new and personally I think it's crap. I > would say that I'm fairly open-minded but I thought that music was supposed > to make you feel something which electro doesn't seem to,

That's one thing that had been bothering me about the so-called electro revival. Alot of the newer tracks were good 'n funky, but they just sounded like cleaner, slicker regurgitations of the old stuff. But that's not the case anymore IMHO. Stuff like the original mixes of Antacid I & II, Paul Bishop's 'Electron Flow' on Eevo-Lute, the new Plaid EP on Clear and 'Subsonic Soundscape' on Shiver are injecting a real sense of melody and soul into electro. It's not just a revival anymore, it's an extension and techno-ization of the old sound I think. And that's pretty fresh, ain't it? Keep on body-rockin', y'all... :) - Matthew

quoted 4 lines II, Paul Bishop's 'Electron Flow' on Eevo-Lute, the new Plaid EP on Clear

> II, Paul Bishop's 'Electron Flow' on Eevo-Lute, the new Plaid EP on Clear > and 'Subsonic Soundscape' on Shiver are injecting a real sense of melody and > soul into electro. It's not just a revival anymore, it's an extension and > techno-ization of the old sound I think. And that's pretty fresh, ain't it?

Can anyone post me the details of the plaid EP. I guess it's already to late for me to order it from my local store.. their not bad at all but when it comes to those Tuscan raiders etc... well, they just weren't quick enough, anyway I'm still waiting for the bantha trax here... gggrrrr.... Snow

Derek Corcoran <gapv96@udcf.gla.ac.uk> writes:

quoted 6 lines Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights

>Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights >remix of antacid had an electro-revival remix on it. Is this the sam sort of >stuff people used to breakdance to a few years back and if so what the >hell is all the fuss about. It's not new and personally I think it's crap. I >would say that I'm fairly open-minded but I thought that music was supposed >to make you feel something which electro doesn't seem to,

well, if you're so open minded, you wouldn't go around calling it "crap" out of hand. obviously electro offered a lot to a lot of people. personally, there are some totally cracking tracks that i really dig. unfortunately, there are also a lot of silly cliches in that style that jedi knights are doing little to get away from. the antacid remix has some nice drum programming and bass noises but the vocoder stuff and the string melody are kinda lame. personally (and i know teep is sick of hearing this as he and i have been hashing this out in email for a week! apologies in advance, buddy.), i think that there are plenty of good ideas to be incorporated without doing a full on throwback to the mid 80's. jedi knights, however, are just doing the total clone thing. i mean, it's interesting as an intellectual exercise, but that's about it. jon's top electro trax: kraftwerk - numbers herbie hancock - rockit dynamix ii - ignition bomb the bass - ten seconds to terminate meat beat manifesto - i got the fear (titanium mix) Jon Drukman jsd@cyborganic.com I can tell you're cool because your water costs more than your beer.

On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Jon Drukman wrote:

quoted 7 lines jon's top electro trax:

> jon's top electro trax: > > kraftwerk - numbers > herbie hancock - rockit > dynamix ii - ignition > bomb the bass - ten seconds to terminate > meat beat manifesto - i got the fear (titanium mix)

I think Meat Beat anticipated this turn towards electro/funk/hip-hop years ago. Storm the Studio, especially. I guess it's kind of ironic that they moved a little closer to the mainstream with their last album. If Jack ever gets the electro bug, watch out!

On Thu, 20 Apr 1995, Jon Drukman wrote:

quoted 7 lines jon's top electro trax:

> jon's top electro trax: > > kraftwerk - numbers > herbie hancock - rockit > dynamix ii - ignition > bomb the bass - ten seconds to terminate > meat beat manifesto - i got the fear (titanium mix)

I find this list rather strange. Mainly because if you ask any of the writers of these tracks if they would dub them "electro" they would say no... The only one that is close is DynamixII and they're really Miami bass. Oh well. So much for Africa Bambatta and the Soul Sonic Force. -robert ______________________________________________*AudioElectronic*_____ "UFO: Starting with the MG Frequency knob at 0, sonic explorers \ as you turn up the knob, \ the UFO will sound like it is taking off." -> MS-20 manual ____\

Howdy Jon,

quoted 4 lines jon's top electro trax:

>jon's top electro trax: > >kraftwerk - numbers >herbie hancock - rockit

Definitely a classic.

quoted 2 lines dynamix ii - ignition

>dynamix ii - ignition >bomb the bass - ten seconds to terminate

Yeah this track rocks! What about the Kraftwerk original this borrows heavily from, though?

quoted 1 line meat beat manifesto - i got the fear (titanium mix)

>meat beat manifesto - i got the fear (titanium mix)

Regards, John

quoted 19 lines Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights

>> Correct me if I'm wrong but I read in Jockey Slut that the jedi knights >> remix of antacid had an electro-revival remix on it. Is this the sam sort of >> stuff people used to breakdance to a few years back and if so what the >> hell is all the fuss about. It's not new and personally I think it's crap. I >> would say that I'm fairly open-minded but I thought that music was supposed >> to make you feel something which electro doesn't seem to, > >That's one thing that had been bothering me about the so-called electro >revival. Alot of the newer tracks were good 'n funky, but they just >sounded like cleaner, slicker regurgitations of the old stuff. But that's >not the case anymore IMHO. Stuff like the original mixes of Antacid I & >II, Paul Bishop's 'Electron Flow' on Eevo-Lute, the new Plaid EP on Clear >and 'Subsonic Soundscape' on Shiver are injecting a real sense of melody and >soul into electro. It's not just a revival anymore, it's an extension and >techno-ization of the old sound I think. And that's pretty fresh, ain't it? > >Keep on body-rockin', y'all... :) >- Matthew >

I would tend to agree with you that the antacid mix is fairly different to the older stuff. Maybe I'm forming an opinion on a limited range of tracks. Still keeping an open mind, Derek.

quoted 2 lines nothing being produced today in any type of

>nothing being produced today in any type of >electronic music sounds like this stuff

quoted 3 lines How about Aux 88 or Drexciya for some electro

>>How about Aux 88 or Drexciya for some electro >>listening? Or some of Suction Records output - >>Solvent, Lowfish

yes.

quoted 2 lines my favorites are: Rephlex Disco Assault Systems

>>my favorites are: Rephlex Disco Assault Systems >>Cylob DMX krew

and yes. Also, Arpanet for a twinkly, spacy take on this sound. We should probably mention Two Lone Swordsmen as a purveyor of a certain flavor of electro if not in strict copycat fashion then definitely in spirit. Tenniswood's Radioactive Man project has turned out some pretty heavy electro tunes as well. I think the BPitch Control and Clone catalogues are also worth checking out for some gems in this vein. Ai records as well. __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org