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From:
david turgeon
To:
John
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Date:
Thu, 06 Jan 2000 20:15:55 -0500
Subject:
Re: (idm) idm-l, the future
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quoted 4 lines the bug of elitism as we currently know it is indeed a plague. but the> >the bug of elitism as we currently know it is indeed a plague. but the > >fact is, it only marginally happens: > Explain what you mean by "only marginally happens"!? IDM reeks of elitism > from the big labels Warp and Rephlex releasing severely limited 12" vinyl
face it: warp & rephlex could release whatever crap they want, they know there's always going to be someone to buy it. their influence goes way beyond this mere list. ever read the warp message board? it's depressing. but anyway, you've misread my point. here is the original quote from my message: "the bug of elitism as we currently know it is indeed a plague. but the fact is, it only marginally happens: -->> the problem is that it is extremely visible on lists such as these <<-- , where records trade at the speed of light & news from every obscure label flies just as fast." most labels act responsibly, & most music listeners listen to their music because they enjoy it. my point is that the examples where this is not true are probably the most visible, because they're the ones that get talked about. just look at what we're doing right in this message: there's been so many times where i've seen the word 'warp', 'rephlex', 'skam' in a message where the actual point was some controversy surrounding them. compare to the amount of times you see people talk of a responsible label such as ninja tune, drop beat, kracfive, töshöklabs, mad monkey, aural industries...
quoted 3 lines only releases to the smaller labels doing the same.. in defense of the> only releases to the smaller labels doing the same.. in defense of the > some of the small labels.. it's the economics, but I don't think that > stands up to scrutiny with labels like Skam and so on. Then there's my
once again, skam's 'attitude' is exactly the sort of thing i was criticizing in my message, but you probably skipped that part (otherwise why would you be repeating exactly what i said?)
quoted 4 lines favourite form of geeky elitism <huge sarcastic smile> the ridiculously> favourite form of geeky elitism <huge sarcastic smile> the ridiculously > limited cdr release. I mean what the fuck? There's no reason a cdr > release should go out of print if there are people still willing to buy > it!!
sorry, but that sounds petty at best. cdr releases are limited for a reason: usually it has to do with the fact that the person putting them out doesn't have the means (time or money) to do otherwise. & put yourself in a cdr label person's shoes: would you really enjoy turning your computer into a cdr factory just to make those 50 extra copies, when you already have a day job & a lot of other things to do with your time? & what if you're just a musician trying to get your music out? not everyone likes to run a business, you know. i know i don't. but do go ahead & back your comment with some evidence of cdr labels limiting their print runs just for the sake of elitism. i'm all ears. ~ david --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org