Those are the first people to get kicked in the head and back as i walk by
them ;)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gil Videla" <mvidelag@yahoo.com>
To: "Rich Warchild" <Warchild@DJWarchild.com>; "Z Moser"
<roachgod69@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: [idm] I killed dancing music
quoted 1 line kids are *STILL* doing the vix and pacifiers??? that's soo 1993-4,
> kids are *STILL* doing the vix and pacifiers??? that's soo 1993-4,
(earlier?).
quoted 1 line my beef with the drugged out ravers were the ones who became comatose or
> my beef with the drugged out ravers were the ones who became comatose or
needed to have some sorta dry-humping at a rave. The people in these groups
did not dance or respond whatsoever to the MUSIC. I got high, even higher
than many of party-goers, but never did I lose my interest in the music.
quoted 1 line My biggest complaint were the keeps who just couldn't move and they'd sit
> My biggest complaint were the keeps who just couldn't move and they'd sit
in the middle of the dancefloor. if you don't wanna dance, be high, but move
to the back, please!
quoted 2 lines after a few years of constant struggle with these disrespectful selfish
>
> after a few years of constant struggle with these disrespectful selfish
fucks I left the "scene"
quoted 5 lines Rich Warchild <Warchild@DJWarchild.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Rich Warchild <Warchild@DJWarchild.com> wrote:
> Your right, there are alot more alcohol related accidents, deaths and
crimes
quoted 4 lines the rave drug related... but the goverment isn't trying to shut down every
> the rave drug related... but the goverment isn't trying to shut down every
> bar as compared to raves.
>
> I never said drugs were bad, if someone wants to do them i tihnk they
should
quoted 27 lines be allowed to. It is their own body after all. I'm sure drugs influenced
> be allowed to. It is their own body after all. I'm sure drugs influenced
> alot of music, that has been prooven thru out history. My problems with
> drugs is public use of them where the goverment sees it and enforces
> stricter laws on promoters and venues. Venues are impossible to find where
> i live.
>
> As for the 50%, i don't go and count and sample.. it's just a rough guess
> from being there in person, seeing the puddles, kids inhaling vix, sucking
> on pacifiers and having the drugged up look in their eyes.
>
> Rich Warchild 781-856-3804
> AIM: The DJ Warchild ICQ: 2021032
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Z Moser"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [idm] I killed dancing music
>
>
> >
> >
> > >Over here though we'll get a venue with 2000 kids and i'd say a good
50%
quoted 7 lines of
> of
> > >them are on drugs and fucked up. Thats just from personal experience in
> my
> > >area of the US. It's quite disgusting.
> >
> >
> > I always find this a interesting perspective in on a music scene that
owes
quoted 1 line at least part of it's inspiration & roots to the condemned drugs, and
> > at least part of it's inspiration & roots to the condemned drugs, and
drug
quoted 1 line users themselves. There are whole genres that are specifically designed
> > users themselves. There are whole genres that are specifically designed
to
quoted 3 lines be experienced on some sort of drug, and many of the underlying elements
> > be experienced on some sort of drug, and many of the underlying elements
> of
> > other genres are at least influenced by the use of drugs or the idea
that
quoted 5 lines the people listening to the music will either be on a certain drug or
> > the people listening to the music will either be on a certain drug or
> would
> > have sometime in there life experienced that drug.
> >
> > It is equivalent to someone greatly admiring tie-dye t-shirts, but
hating
quoted 7 lines that damn pot-smoking acidhead hippy who created it.
> > that damn pot-smoking acidhead hippy who created it.
> >
> > Two side notes:
> >
> > First, I live in america also. Trust me there is allot more alcohol
> related
> > incidents of violence and deaths in relation to violence and death
caused
quoted 7 lines by
> by
> > rave related drugs. If you don't trust me, just turn on your local news
> and
> > see how long it take to hear of someone who died in a drunk driving
> related
> > incident, or go to a local bar or club and see tempers flare and fights
> > break out once the drinking gets started. Now do the same for rave
related
quoted 2 lines drugs and see which proverbial hand gets full first. A person on a rave
> > drugs and see which proverbial hand gets full first. A person on a rave
> > related drug is more likely to want to hug you or engage in a
intellectual
quoted 15 lines conversation. I am not saying that there are not bad effects, just that
> > conversation. I am not saying that there are not bad effects, just that
> they
> > miniscule when compared to the bad effects of legal drugs.
> >
> > This leads me to believe that drugs are just a scapegoat to underlying
> > reasons why governments want raves shut down. What the true reason is I
> > could only speculate. One thing I do know is through out history
> governments
> > have never liked large gathering of open minded youngsters.
> >
> > Second, I don't like the implication that all drugs are bad, and the
> people
> > on them are bad. Who sets these standards. It sounds more like memetic
> > control mechanism. When I first went to raves I was under the impression
> > that electronic music was terrible. The only reason I went was to look
for
quoted 3 lines a
> a
> > certain drug that I had been wanting to experiment for the last 5 years
> > before hand. Once I took this drug electronic music made allot more
sense,
quoted 4 lines actually allot of things made a lot more sense, but that is beside the
> > actually allot of things made a lot more sense, but that is beside the
> > point. Today I no longer do drugs. Besides the occasional psychedelic
> maybe
> > once or twice a year. I guess I grew out of them. But I didn't grow out
of
quoted 1 line my love for electronic music it becomes wider and deeper everyday. You
> > my love for electronic music it becomes wider and deeper everyday. You
can
quoted 3 lines blame this on those evil drugs.
> > blame this on those evil drugs.
> >
> > Lastly, the 50% of the 2000 you mentioned. Is that just a device to
prove
quoted 2 lines a
> a
> > point. Or do you actually do representative sampling when you go to
these
quoted 22 lines events?
> > events?
> >
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