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Re: [idm] Music
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This is an interesting topic. But it's all to easy to dip into armchair psychology, as the first quote here indicates:
quoted 2 lines "Music has become a symbolic language of the unconscious mind whose symbolism> "Music has become a symbolic language of the unconscious mind whose symbolism > we shall never be able to fathom."
attempts to produce logical symbolism that explain the "meaning" of music, or other arts, have been fraught with difficulties. mainly these difficulties stem from the "fact" that we can understand music without being aware of these complicated symbolisms that philosophers/musicologists produce, indicating that our understanding really consists of something else. how can we have a *language* of the unconscious? how can we express what we are unaware of?
quoted 3 lines "A word does not mean the same thing to one person as to another, only the> "A word does not mean the same thing to one person as to another, only the > tune says the same thing, awakens the feeling, in both - though that feeling > may not be expressed in the same words." - mendelssohn
This is an especially interesting quote from mendelssohn. I find it bizzare that he thinks words do not mean the same thing to each individual. how then do we communicate? it often seems to me that the situation is just the opposite, it is music that says different things to different people, or even different things to the same person at different times. Someone else in the thread mentioned about how music highlights certain aspects of experience - listening to a song suggests a particular way of looking at a landscape for instance. But it is interesting why people often associate colours, textures or images with particular kinds of sounds. i wonder how these associations are related to past experiences when listening to the same/or similar pieces of music. i wonder if there is a systematic way of explaining that? ho-hum, Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org