You are a blithering idiot and a great buffoon.
Many works of genius were realized and finalized in bedrooms the world over.
When was the last time you listened to Selected Ambient Works 1? Surely
you have the deductive powers to realized that it's mixed like dog shit,
cassette tape and what not, but so many people love it for it's purely
musical beauty. Maybe you agree with me there. I mean, I know you have an
SSL GL series and a rack full of Neves in a 10,000 square foot studio on the
Riviera, but, some of us are still working on our music degrees and most of
us just like to listen to and talk shit about the music we love.
OH-and as far as people being critical of a "sample" or a "mix" goes, well,
Lester Bangs, this IS the idm list. Most idm involves use of electronics.
If you want to be philosophical about a voice or instrumental talent, you
are not in the right ballgame, not the right ballpark, not even the right
sport. Probably not the right planet, either. You should read your email
when you're sober.
You all need to study English Literature again. Cex's irony is wasted on so
many of you, and his bravery is mistaken for arrogance or shit-talking.
He's just putting his money where his mouth is, which many of you refuse to
do.
peace
petey
quoted 52 lines From: "Martin" <apollon@freeuk.com>
>From: "Martin" <apollon@freeuk.com>
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] the haters
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:22:25 +0000
>
>
>I couldn't agree more with this msg, most people on this list have no
>conception of music, only sound... the inverted snobbery of raving about a
>particular sample or mix rather than someones voice or instrumental talent
>is absolutely negative, most idm artists and listeners seem to have no
>knowledge of anything not created using a sampler or sequencer
>programme...the ears of most listeners have been polluted by poor quality,
>bedroom mixing and mp3 conversion...many idm artists spend thousands of
>dollars on kit an often just regurgitate someone elses sound...quite a few
>10 year old kids could do a similar job
>
>Martin Lee-Stephenson
> > I can't believe the utter stupidity of even discussing this. THE ONLY
> > TIME YOU HEAR ACTUAL MUSIC IS WHEN SOMEONE PLAYS AN ACOUSTIC INSTRUMENT
> > WITHIN THE RANGE OF YOUR UNAUGMENTED EARS.
> >
> > Everything else is DSP fuckery. Check out a copy of Mix Magazine
>sometime
> > and read one of the blow by blow descriptions of recording and mixing
> > a pop hit. Artists like Cex, Kid606, Kit Clayton, etc conceptually
> > turn the artifice of mass culture pop on their head, by flaunting and
> > abusing the tools the majors use to fool you into thinking you're
>hearing
> > music. It's the musical equivelant of the Centre Pompidou, with all the
> > ductwork and conduit on the outside.
> >
> > Shit, most of y'all probably don't even LIKE music that can be made by a
> > human being without electricity. Judge music on whether it moves you or
>not.
> > Don't whine about the electrons people shove around.
> >
> > kent williams -- kent@avalon.net
> > http://www.cornwarning.com -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label
> > http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes
> >
> >
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