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1994-06-14 17:56Mohsen Gamshad SCANNER
1994-06-14 23:48Re: SCANNER
1994-09-26 19:03JAMIE M. HODGE Scanner
1994-09-27 19:08Greg Earle Re: Scanner
├─ 1994-09-27 22:45Guy Elden Jr. Re: Scanner
│ └─ 1994-09-28 04:53Matt Corwine Re: Scanner
└─ 1994-09-29 21:53Dan Nicholson Re: Scanner
1995-04-10 01:29Re: Scanner
1995-04-14 03:23Quentin and Nicole Re: Scanner
2001-09-07 08:56Thomson, Dylan [idm] scanner
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1994-06-14 17:56Mohsen GamshadCan some one list all the Scanner releases out there. Thanks, Mohsen
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Can some one list all the Scanner releases out there. Thanks, Mohsen
1994-06-14 23:48808STATE@delphi.comScanner 1 (Ash 1.1) Scanner 2 (Ash 1.2) There's also a 12" with remixed material from the
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Scanner 1 (Ash 1.1) Scanner 2 (Ash 1.2) There's also a 12" with remixed material from the above two releases. Soleilmoon@aol.com carries all of the above. 8080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808 0 Paul Rafanello Internet: 808STATE@DELPHI.COM 0 8080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808080808
1994-09-26 19:03JAMIE M. HODGEThere was a strong 12", with mass observation and scanner on the flip (?)
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There was a strong 12", with mass observation and scanner on the flip (?)
1994-09-27 19:08Greg Earle>>> Huh? Scanner doesn't copyright their works? > >> Apparently not. The back of the CD st
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quoted 9 lines Huh? Scanner doesn't copyright their works?>>> Huh? Scanner doesn't copyright their works? > >> Apparently not. The back of the CD states "All recordings public >> domain." A bold statement, I say ... > >Considering that their one idea (putting transmitted conversations over music >without the knowledge or consent of the participants) is something that >Negativland has done more than once ("sewer mouth!"), Scanner's following >their lead in terms of copyright isn't a big surprise either.
Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"? That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is worthless garbage; I don't even know why there's a thread on them (and here I am contributing to it (-: ). - Greg
1994-09-27 22:45Guy Elden Jr.> Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"? > > That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is worthle
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quoted 5 lines Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"?> Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"? > > That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is worthless garbage; I don't even > know why there's a thread on them (and here I am contributing to it (-: ). >
well.... I don't consider it "garbage"... I live in the US, and I think it's pretty funny when I hear a track by scanner, where I get a "peek" inside some peoples' lives on the other side of the Atlantic. That's about all it really is tho... no ground-breaking earth-shattering new progress in music here. -- ccastge@prism.gatech.edu | All of us get lost in the darkness, a.k.a., Guy Elden Jr. | Dreamers learn to steer by the stars... Neil Peart ---->| All of us do time in the gutter, of RUSH | Dreamers turn to look at the cars...
1994-09-28 04:53Matt CorwineOn Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Guy Elden Jr. wrote: > > Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"? > > > >
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On Tue, 27 Sep 1994, Guy Elden Jr. wrote:
quoted 12 lines Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"?> > Does Scanner even *have* "one idea"? > > > > That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is worthless garbage; I don't even > > know why there's a thread on them (and here I am contributing to it (-: ). > > > > well.... I don't consider it "garbage"... I live in the US, and I think > it's pretty funny when I hear a track by scanner, where I get a "peek" inside > some peoples' lives on the other side of the Atlantic. > > That's about all it really is tho... no ground-breaking earth-shattering > new progress in music here.
Exactly. There's nothing I or D about Scanner, and there's hardly any M, but that doesn't render it pointless... ::Matthew J. Corwine Online Editor, XLR8R Magazine:: ::mcorwine@hyperreal.com xlr8r@hyperreal.com:: ::mcorwine@u.washington.edu Ambient Temple of Imagination:: ::206.328.9368 atoi@hyperreal.com::
1994-09-29 21:53Dan NicholsonGreg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US> writes: > That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is
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Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US> writes:
quoted 2 lines That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is worthless garbage; I don't even> That stuff at the end of the AI 2 CD is worthless garbage; I don't even > know why there's a thread on them (and here I am contributing to it (-: ).
i dunno, but i love the track on TEXX 2. - Dan transmission 23 - FTZ - edrone - clonor the other - morpheus ii The 8-Bit Collective/8-Bit Records * US/Finland mail: eightbit@vlad.bowker.com - rkn@phoenix.oulu.fi WorldWideWeb: http://ftp.luth.se/pub/misc2/kosmic/www/8bit.html KLF/FreeMusicFoundation: http://ftp.luth.se/pub/misc2/kosmic/www/
1995-04-10 01:29RShae@aol.comI have noticed some interest in New Electronica on the IDM, and particularily on Scanner.
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I have noticed some interest in New Electronica on the IDM, and particularily on Scanner. Following is a posting I was send, it is from a UK writer named Desmond Hill. He is probably one of the best of the UK press, his opinions are often more developed than his ability to slag, as most UK writers seem hell bent on (I apologize for not asking about reprinting this, I thought its educational value meritted widespread emination!). Other New Electronica releases are also highly recommended, the Objet's D'Art compilation, although very difficult to catch, is superb, 110 Below #2 is much more trip hoppy and even a bit hip hoppy than #1, but still a cool acquisition. Other titles too numerous to mention, look out for them. From: "Desmond K. Hill" <des@anubis23.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:44:33 +0000 Subject: *scanner* in response to jorge l fernandez's request, there are several sides to scanner. for those also intrigued, enclosed below a reflection. hope you find it useful. ciao, *des* Telephoneopathy: Edinburgh, Sunday at midnight, 'The Blue Room' beneath Carlton Street begins to fill. The outlaws, eccentrics and anarchists of the inner cities parade their renegade panache of mutant pigtails, denim skirts, crazy coloured hair, old skool tracksuits, woollen hats, gleaming piercings and urban camouflage. Drawn like snakes to a charmer's pipe, a dishevelled daydream forms in the wake of a river of sound. The datastream controller is 'texture mixing', which means more than playing several items at once. Two CD players, two turntables, a DAT machine, live voices, layer upon layer. On the decks, Scanner is spinning and cutting up inherited preconditioned responses. Improvisation is all about connections and juxtapositions. It's literally a new way to make music, a continuously spreading web of texture and aural confusion, rich and impoverished like nothing else yet. It scrambles the entire club-going experience, shifting the action away from a performance or an event and toward nothing less than an absurd abstraction. The club is a vibe, a mind-set, a place people go to get right. Collaged sound is a 'border art' crossing geographical and psychic boundaries. This intimate fusion of timely and timeless, means a return to communication, to interaction, to people. It's a way of playing that's like chasing sunbeams. It's between compromising and improvising, between tying things down and letting things happen, between making mistakes and getting things right. It's functional and it's online, now. Facilitating sounds from distant locations, with huge variations of scale, it becomes organic, alive. The mix trawls archives and airwaves to reconnect sound-shards and layer them into a shifting sea of living language, sound and noise interference. Aural recollection. Living history. Collaged memory. The Scanner series of releases (on Ash International), amounting to three CDs so far feature a fifteen year old catalogue of scanned (intercepted) mobile phone dialogues by unsuspecting Cellnet users. Irresistibly voyeuristic, these conversational fragments are laid onto a bare foundation of minimal musical aurascapes, supplemented with common place and largely ignored sounds such as closing doors, transistors switching between stations, or television background noises. This music is the accompanying score to a living film. Voices from the darkness are extracted from the monologue of the city itself. The ensuing collage is highly evocative and highly provocative, but do these recordings reflect street life or just escapist voyeurist fantasies? Procurer of sonic debris, Robin Rimbaud, is very much aware of what he is dealing with: "I cannot deny there's a voyeuristic element involved. In a way the material all plays to that, but also points to more serious issues of personal communication." Scanner's sci-fi perception of urban dystopia is not necessarily incoherent. Every time you use a cheque book to purchase groceries at Safeway, the details are passed to a market research company. Every time you make a phone call Telecom are able to instantly trace the details. Every time you withdraw money from a cash machine, the transactions are recorded. Our every move is monitored by closed circuit cameras. The revolution might not be televised, but it will be prerecorded. One nation under surveillance. Questioned about the criminal adoption of hi-tech (scanners can be used to tap Police radio signals) Robin is a little bemused: "I like to think my implementation is more creative. Making tracks which form around the noise of a tiny transistor radio playing beneath a telephone conversation. Taking tiny fragments, bringing them from the hidden background, into the foreground." This kind of sneaky listening-in is controversial to put it mildly. Scanner technology is barely detectable, so the chance of apprehension is slim. Yet, replies the protagonist, there is no difference between video diaries, field recordings, crossed telephone lines, fax interceptions, misdialled conversations. All exist in an indiscriminate ocean of digital signals flying overhead, barely within our grasp. By siphoning the tiny currents of the datastream, and redirecting the info-flow, he is attacking control structures and authorial power. Sampling is more than cultural archaeology, it's an accelerated collision between past and present into a future yet to begin. Those who control the editing rooms run the show. This is paradigm-hacking on the streets, cutting and pasting, manipulating information to structure an alternative audio reality. His armoury is minimal but impressive: a mobile scanner handset, an Alesis Quadraverb Plus effects unit, a Digitech 7.5 Second Echo Unit, Yamaha keyboards, a four track recorder to mix, a portable DAT machine and a recording Walkman, used in countless environmental or field recordings collected over the last fifteen years. "It's all rather lo-tech," he modestly remarks, "but pushed to its extremes it can become quite interesting." In one sense the medium has itself become the instrument. A logical step for a community that spends increasing amounts of life interfacing not with other creatures but with technology. It is the man-machine interface that has provoked this vision of confused communication, the infinite mix with its seamless sonic structures. Scanner literally transmutes into function, becoming a filter, compressing the most relevant, pertinent or obscure data. Does this not make him a shadow thief, a voracious listener to the tawdry dealings in the margin? No says Robin, "Mobile phones are already a common intrusion. You see people shouting into them on trains, in restaurants, walking down the street. They are everywhere." Instead of the passive reception of consumer, he has invested creativity with retransmission of sonic material, into a comment about human relationships. To address these questions, widen the musicological debate, and bring together others of like mind, Robin cultivated the 'Electronic Lounge', a techno fest of new sound innovation, with unique projects and live performances in the artsy enclave of London's ICA bar. Events occur on the first Tuesday of every month, all at low volume so you can gently unwind and meet with friends. "It's working very well actually," he admits. The practicalities of exchanged ideas are ideal in a format which is more than a place to connect and more than a club. "We want to introduce even more ideas so by liaising with a variety of all kinds of folks, not only musicians, we can do that," he enthuses, "More than anything the fruits will blossom in six months time when the various projects that people are discussing now are actually released." Desmond K. Hill written September 1994, published November 1994 des@anubis23.demon.co.uk
1995-04-14 03:23Quentin and Nicole>Before I forget, is the new Scanner LP on New Electronica called 'Spore', >and if so, doe
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quoted 8 lines Before I forget, is the new Scanner LP on New Electronica called 'Spore',>Before I forget, is the new Scanner LP on New Electronica called 'Spore', >and if so, does anyone know the track titles? Needless to say, Scanner >is IMO very 'innovative' in IDM, and I find 'sonic voyeurism' enjoyable >to listen to during my 'electronic listening' set at home from 2-4 am on >Saturday nights. It seems that 'Safety' and 'Vein' were just teasers. I >haven't got a chance to pick up Mass Observation or the Scanner 1/2 >(They're on CD only-sadly...) but i'm hoping 'Spore' will eleviate my >hightened deviousness...
Check out the Full Fathom ep on N.E., mostly tripped up dubby techno, v.v.good And Also the Runaway Train LP on Ash, which is a real time recording of a conversation btwn Alfie (the line controller) and Wesley (the driver) of a runaway train. I haven't actually heard it yet but I know its around. Sounds pretty cool... Also there was a one of our record dist. reps. was working on getting Scanner to come over to do a tour, not sure whats happening with it now bu will know shortly. ==> Anyone on this list heading out to SanFran for the U-ziq boat cruise??? If so, see you there:))) temple of sound imports/711 yates st./victoria b.c./v8w1c6/vox 604-920-0869 fax 604-380-0121. (a store, with 1 last ISDN LP:) send e-mail for a current playlist qrogers@islandnet.com some stuff we do on CFUV FM 102 (Victoria B.C.) LOUNGE WORLD sat.night 3-6am (eettss ammbient!!!) <==2 years old in june!!! ESCAPE VELOCITY alt friday nights 10:30-12:30 (much much faster than...) also. GRAVITY, Victoria's very own ambient coffee-house on at 9pm sunday nights at Java Tea b& Coffee house.
2001-09-07 08:56Thomson, DylanOn channel 4 last night in the UK just before 9. o'clock there was a piece of film with an
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On channel 4 last night in the UK just before 9. o'clock there was a piece of film with an older women dancing. I just caught the end of it. The music was provided by Scanner, I loved it. I have always been aware of scanner thro the wire and always though reading and theorising about his music would be more interesting than actually listening to it. I appear to have been wrong. If anybody in the UK actually knows what precise piece of music was used for this film piece could they let me know what album its on as I'd like to start with that one. or if you nice people could suggest which album to start with I'd be grateful. dylan. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org