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Delerium : Semantic Spaces.

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1994-08-28 18:02Brother Alphabet Delerium : Semantic Spaces.
└─ 1994-08-30 05:19Dan Nicholson Re: Delerium : Semantic Spaces.
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1994-08-28 18:02Brother AlphabetI got a CD yesterday by Delerium called 'Semantic Spaces.'... The Cd was a part of a packa
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Sun, 28 Aug 1994 13:02:45 -0500 (CDT)
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Delerium : Semantic Spaces.
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I got a CD yesterday by Delerium called 'Semantic Spaces.'... The Cd was a part of a package that came to my show which included a brief discography if anyone is interested. The members of theis group are either members or producers of Front Line Assembly (I am unsure which)...but the music is promoted as ambient. They were promoted on the promo page as being known for their looping of monks and chanting before it got 'big'... Tracks : 1. Flowers Become Screens 7:55 This song begins with an eerie blend of spacey keys and a female voice (Kristy Thirsk) that weaves in and out and almost gives you goose bumps. She whispers "rain" "pain" and various lines related to the lyrics. "Rain is pain" "Trickling down" etc etc... The keys build up with the layers and then the layers fade into the beat at around 1:57...enigma-esque beat...some sort of mannheim steamrolloer sounding keys pop out...(screwing up the otherwise mysterious feel...) Thirsk sings the first line....chorus...(id write the lyrics, but i might get sued)....strong atmospheric keys....layers of samples...second line.... The vocals are overlapped by this "ahhhhhhhhhohhhhhh" sample...very spooky.... more singing more samples.... As a lyrical piece this is good. I will play it on my show more than likely to please those who like vocals...(I do a new age/ ambient show and I have a lot of enya/clannad fans in the audience...) Some of the keyboards are in the way of the power of the song...it is almost like hyped up cocteau twins...but the voice is not as good as frasers...not as hollow and haunting.... As an ambient piece i do not think it will pass other than the first two minutes...again the keyboards get in the way and so do the canned beats....but this is far better than anything on its level (Enigma, Deep Forest) 2. Metaphor 7:49 Eastern samples...light chimes...blended with atmospheric keys.... Slight Vangelis sound for a brief moment...beat kicks in at 1:00...a better beat than the first...samples of these pymy types...beat shift to a heavy bas, bass, snare pattern...monks on top of pygmies.... deep bass kicks in at 1:55...old new order like back ground effects... Some vocal samples that sound like very very fast monks...keys flow in and out...layers are very thick....it is hard to pay attention to any one particualr sound...then the layers quit suddenly...about half are gone and replaced by a pink floyd sounding loop and the pygmies.... hip hop beat in back...keyboard transition to native or oriental flute...beat returns almost simultaneously...the monks come back... the structure is complete and it cycles back around to the end... This music is much better when it does not have to be concerned with lyrical structure...this song is slow paced but at the same time very uplifting...it is not as minimal as ambient can be...but it is not as hyped as any sort of techno...i think it is in the category of Enigma and Deep forest in that it doesnt match any formulas, but it sure is better than most of the crap on the radio. 3. Resurrection 9:24 Choir sample and horn loop. rough synth sizzle..horns fade...low groan of synths and then synth strings...low synth reaches top of arc...Beat hits at around 1:00.. snare loop...choir comes back...various effects... Oriental or eastern flute loop and bass come in....keys annoy you in the foreground....contrast the mood....this music tells you to dance and sit down and relax at the dame time....some plinky high pitched keys in the foreground....this is getting annoying... choir comes in and out...its still that cheap "lets see how many ways we can use samples of a body of people singing"...it just sounds better than the other two groups. 4. Incantation 6:24 Another vocal track with Thirsk... Synth intro...the songs begin sounding like they will be cool...but then the beat kicks in...this one is not horrible, though...the song makes a drastic BPM shift at :40...old school techno beats...bass is sounding more and more simialr to the rest of the album...You know...with deep forest, enigma, b tribe and these people...we may be seeing a whole new style of music...all the bass is the same...the loops are of similar nature... the vocals are similar in many ways to opusIII...keys sound better with the vocals...obvious Front Line Assembly influence...but not as rough... ok enough... 5. Consensual Worlds 10:04 Organ with effects... Not spooky at all... 242 sounding key loops... This song has potential as long as they dont throw in a canned beat....very slow monk loop...ohhhhhhhhhahhhhh....the beat hits at under 2:00...interesting so far...oh no here it comes...and suddenly it sounds like old ORB!!! ARRRRRGH! Its perpetual dawn!!!! at leas there is no one singing "perpetual daaaaaawn" over and over to drive you up the wall...but it does have that old style dub sound....i have to keep telling my self that this is much better than enigma...at least its better than enigma.... some jamiacan guy blabbing incoherently for at least 2 and a half minutes... there it is...the canned beat.... took almost six minutes but i knew it would be here...keys like johnny O in the background briefly...remember johnny O? Remember that category of music called "high energy" in the late 80's... 6. Metamorphosis 8:27 What I call "cinema sounds" in the beginning (cant think of any other way to describe it)... slow rolling keys...chimes...ets...in a blend.... ooops...someone left the 808 on...no...more like a casio set on slow samba... key loops..very sped up monks sop that it sounds like female vocals... synth hiss and bass intro... now it is female vocals... not saying anything though...just loops... im starting to hate this... dogs in the woods, or some sort of tribal thing loop. 7. Flatlands 7:13 Synths and monks intro... Violins... OHHHH NOOOOOOOO!!!!!! It is THE enigma beat...i hate this beat...it was ripped off by enigma....what is this a freaking RULE that you have to use this beat...? I cant take it....still its better than enigma! 8. Sensorium 12:08 Synth distortions and overlays...very silent in the background.... most dominant sound is bird loop...then a marimba pattern... rolling keys.... chime sound... the standard synth "ahhhhhh" some warps going on...im impressed...but they are in back.... acidic sounds...this may prove to be the best track on this disc... in and out....nice flow so far.... no beat yet...thats good...acidic loop goes away....a shallow rumble...here come the vocal incoherencies from the female vocalists... synths are building up...no beat yet....acidic loops return.... oh no....no....they completely stole this beat....if i remember who from ill say...it is a loop off of someone else...maybe even the orb....i dont think so though....oh no!!!! Its a damn DEEP FOREST LOOP!!!!!!!! its right before the deep forest cheesy keyboard intro to that song....oh i forget....but they ripped it off!!! Well...at least they made them sound good... Beat dies...sand bvlock beats with deep kettle drum...acidic loops still here....they come in and out now...oh lord...its the baka pygmy loops that deep forest used.... the real beat kicks in around 7:20...female vocals come back... more deep forest loops... its a tight loop pattern now..i hate when a song of this type goes repetitive for over a minute... keys move again... layers fade and we have the deep forest beat sample and the acidic loop... then all is quiet except for the appregio...then there are random warps in front of a low synth grind...chumpy keys end it off...bleeds into the last track... 9 Gateway 8:13 Synth sounds and rain loop... "Deep in the forest, there are little people..." (not really) I dont even want to think about this beat... Sounds like one that you hear in some "upbeat new age" acidic sounds come forward though...so the beat is not that bad....atmospheric synths come flying out of the background... still sounds like new age.... (Which isnt bad ,but when you TRY to bridge the two types of music it usually fails...) Sounds like a sax loop, but is really someones voice...neat... At four minutes we are still faced with the grim realization that nothing interesting has happened... nothing interesting happens for the rest of the song... ---------------------------------------------------- Well that was it...9 tracks of a decent nature..the music is overall enjoyable if you are in a really good mood...nothing really innovative...definitely better than enigmas albums put together...and it is better than deep forest as well...so if you want some light techno to add to your collection of "stuff to hear while cleaning the apartment" go ahead and get this... i guess it will get a B-(C+) just because it was better than the other two...it wasnt as repetitive so it has to earn something... but if you compared it to say...real ambient it would get a D+ but on the other hand if you compared it to deee lite or two unlimited....it would get an A simply because Delerium would have to be a lot worse than this to achieve that level of annoyment potential. and if you want the discog i have it sitting around somewhere... jasonosaj
1994-08-30 05:19Dan NicholsonThanks to jason for that extremely thorough review of Delirium, it was extremely entertain
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Tue, 30 Aug 94 01:19:26 EDT
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Thanks to jason for that extremely thorough review of Delirium, it was extremely entertaining... maybe this should be in the Deep Forest FAQ or something, but contrary to what some of the liner notes on DF say, not all of those "baka pygmies" samples on DF were really made in a jungle by the DF crew.. some of them (and some of the beats too if i recall correctly) are on the world's most over-sampled sample CD set "The X-Static Goldmine" (available in the US from East/West Soundwarehouse if you're really that much of a trainspotter). I am 99% certain these discs were made before DF's material was written. They've been sampled by just about everyone it seems, including recently Bill Laswell ('clonk' and 'radioactive' beats submerged nicely in the mix on Ambient Dub 1) and FSOL ("Cascade" which might as well be a demo track for some of the same beats since it uses them without -any- resequencing or anything). But I can't really complain too much, i've used many of them myself. - Dan /~~~\ |~~~~\ |~~||~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | o | | o || ||__ __| | DanN = moddan@vlad.bowker.com | \ / /~~~\ | / | | | | | t23@cyberspace.com | / \ | O || \ | | | | | Transmission 23 - FTZ - edrone | | O | \___/ | O || | | | |____________________________________| \___/ C O L L|____/E|__|C |__|T I V E \*\ \*\