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quoted 3 lines Can anyone recommend other CDs/groups like William Orbit's "Strange Cargo III&qu

>Can anyone recommend other CDs/groups like William Orbit's "Strange Cargo III"? >I just got it and I am in heaven. This is the best stuff that has ever >touched my ears. It has the best elements of all my favorite stuff.

quoted 5 lines I just got William Orbit's "Strange Cargo III" CD. I have been listening

>I just got William Orbit's "Strange Cargo III" CD. I have been listening >to it nonstop since I got it. It is absolutlely *amazing*. It takes the >best elements of some of my favorite groups and puts it together into >something that it should be, much like rave DJs as creators of musical >fabric. What he has attained is a worthy goal of musicians and DJs.

Whooah, do we detect an interest in ambience. Surely there are many millions of recording groups and artists dedicated to exactly this sound, especially on this side of the atlantic. Ambience is pure and plentiful and beginning to take a real hold. This kind of music has surely been recorded ever since the seventies, and whilst it has only recently become DJ material it has none the less produced some of the finest moments in the history of recording. What about the stuff coming out of the states (esp. California now). Perhaps we are seeing more of it in english shops than in Ca.! Anyway this is IDM but without the D, so I won't annoy the SysOp by posting a list of my favourites (ie I can't think of enough off-hand, to justify it!) ;) Till then.... Charles Wildig <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk> Tranquillity Base Transmission

On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk wrote:

quoted 7 lines Whooah, do we detect an interest in ambience. Surely there are many

> Whooah, do we detect an interest in ambience. Surely there are many > millions of recording groups and artists dedicated to exactly this sound, > especially on this side of the atlantic. Ambience is pure and plentiful and > beginning to take a real hold. This kind of music has surely been recorded > ever since the seventies, and whilst it has only recently become DJ material > it has none the less produced some of the finest moments in the history of > recording.

But there's a downside. More and more music is being called "ambient" which has nothing whatsoever to do with "true" ambient music (70's Eno &c), and "ambient" is quickly becoming another overused, ill-defined buzzword, like "trance" or "acid jazz."

quoted 3 lines What about the stuff coming out of the states (esp. California now).

> > What about the stuff coming out of the states (esp. California now). > Perhaps we are seeing more of it in english shops than in Ca.!

"United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient" compilation I've seen. However, it's a prime example of this mislabelling of ambient music. United State of Ambience is basically house beats with ethnic/environmental samples. Only th Dubtribe track could possibly be called "ambient" in the true sense. Sunshine's sure got his head screwed on right :) Peace, Matt <(hcy)>

After a general assault on my idea of ambience it looks like I have to justify myself, but I won't, because frankly ambience is a word used in many contexts today (overused perhaps). I apologise to all those I offended :) p.s. read me as <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>...sorry about the misprint Charles Wildig Humbleness is beauty ;)

On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk wrote:

quoted 3 lines After a general assault on my idea of ambience it looks like I have to justify

> After a general assault on my idea of ambience it looks like I have to justify > myself, but I won't, because frankly ambience is a word used in many contexts > today (overused perhaps). I apologise to all those I offended :)

You didn't offend anyone. (this is going off a bit 'cause of all the drugs arguments going on) I really wish that this list wouldn't degenerate into petty personal arguments. The concept of drugs and music is good meat for discussion, but not if it turns into silly personal attacks. Luckily this ambient thread isn't turning into anything nasty. We should welcome criticism of our points. Nobody's perfect and nobody should treat anyone like they should be. Sorry about this little tangent, but your comments made me wish others would feel the same way. Peace, Matt <(hcy)> XLR8R Magazine, Seattle

quoted 6 lines "United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient

>"United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient" >compilation I've seen. However, it's a prime example of this >mislabelling of ambient music. United State of Ambience is basically >house beats with ethnic/environmental samples. Only th Dubtribe track >could possibly be called "ambient" in the true sense. Sunshine's sure >got his head screwed on right :)

Hmmm. How about the fabulous stuff out of Caroline Records. And what is "the true sense"? Hawke are surely one of the best ambience-influenced bands on the planet. I haven't heard it yet, but what about the "California Dreaming" CD? Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American Ambience I can get you the address of Dave Spalding, operating out of the gulf. He has a few ideas, and a radio show to prove it. Cheers Charles Wildig <u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk>

quoted 3 lines Hmmm. How about the fabulous stuff out of Caroline Records. And what is

>Hmmm. How about the fabulous stuff out of Caroline Records. And what is >"the true sense"? Hawke are surely one of the best ambience-influenced bands >on the planet.

sorry, but this stuff is not particularly ambient. it's just slowed down mellow dance music.

quoted 2 lines I haven't heard it yet, but what about the "California Dreaming"

>I haven't heard it yet, but what about the "California Dreaming" >CD?

no way, most of it is quite dancy.

quoted 3 lines Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American

>Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American >Ambience I can get you the address of Dave Spalding, operating out of the >gulf. He has a few ideas, and a radio show to prove it.

on the new Tranquility Bass 12" there is a *very* ambient mix of "they came in peace." get "thursday afternoon" by brian eno - now THAT'S ambient. /jon

On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 u91clw@ecs.ox.ac.uk wrote:

quoted 8 lines "United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient

> >"United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient" > >compilation I've seen. However, it's a prime example of this > >mislabelling of ambient music. United State of Ambience is basically > >house beats with ethnic/environmental samples. Only th Dubtribe track > >could possibly be called "ambient" in the true sense. Sunshine's sure > >got his head screwed on right :) > > Hmmm. How about the fabulous stuff out of Caroline Records. And what is

True. I've had the pleasure of reviewing "The Essential Fripp and Eno" this month. Plus, Caroline is releasing Seefeel's Quique in the US.

quoted 3 lines "the true sense"? Hawke are surely one of the best ambience-influenced bands

> "the true sense"? Hawke are surely one of the best ambience-influenced bands > on the planet. I haven't heard it yet, but what about the "California Dreaming" > CD?

California Dreaming leans more toward trance/house. The Hawke tracks I've heard are more house than anything else, and there isn't a single track on California Dreaming that I'd consider "ambient."

quoted 3 lines Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American

> Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American > Ambience I can get you the address of Dave Spalding, operating out of the > gulf. He has a few ideas, and a radio show to prove it.

As for the "true sense", I probably shouldn't have used such direct words. Saying that there's "true" ambient music or nothing at all is a bit too heady and snobbish. Basically I'm saying that there's ambient music in the sense of late 70's Eno &c, and this ethno-house that some labels are declaring to be "ambient" to the general public. There is plenty of good ambient music in the US, but most of it is never released or put out on smaller labels. I'm rather proud of Reflective for releasing some FAX material here in the US. As for Dave Spalding, the name sounds familari. Operating out of the gulf? The Gulf of Mexico? The Persian Gulf? Details, please, I'm interested... Peace, Matt <(hcy)> XLR8R Magazine, Seattle

quoted 2 lines "United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient

> >"United State of Ambience" on Moonshine US. It's the first US "ambient" > >compilation I've seen.

quoted 1 line Hmmm. How about the fabulous stuff out of Caroline Records.

> Hmmm. How about the fabulous stuff out of Caroline Records.

I think what was meant is that it is a compilation of American artists doing "ambient house".

quoted 3 lines CD? Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American

> CD? Other names escape me just now. If you are in serious need of American > Ambience I can get you the address of Dave Spalding, operating out of the > gulf. He has a few ideas, and a radio show to prove it.

He plays only American artists? Interesting. I received Astralwerk's "Barramundi" compilation today. A big thumbs up as usual, I'm listening to it now. Here's the track listing: Jaydee "Thing 4 A While" Man-Delo "Shomyo" Melt "Sunsailer" The Joey Morton X-Perience "2000" Karma De La Luna "Genius" MLF Gaia "Colorlift" Transformer 2 "Prophecy" The Rapino Brothers "Go Ahead London" Darren Emmerson "I Wish I Knew Everything" Since Barramundi is an offshoot of Antler/Subway there is a bit of a Teutonic influence, but tasty nonetheless. Very comparable to some of the stuff that came out on Logic Trance. Also included was a list of upcoming Astralwerks releases: April: Seefeel "Quique" CD/CS Mellow Mellow "One 4 Love" 12" Transformer 2 "Spirit" 12" Transformer 2 "Transformations" CD/CS May: The Daedelus Project "Speedball" 12" Fierce Ruling Diva "I Need Drugs" 12" Future Sound of London "Lifeforms" CD/CS VA: The Hard Edition "Technomancer IV" CD/CS VA: Howze 'o Dy-no-mite CD/CS June: Seefeel "Time To Find Me AFX rmx" 12" Fierce Ruling Diva: "Revolt of the Perverse" CD/CS VA: Excursions in Ambience "The Third Dimension" CD/CS Space Time Continuum TBA CD/CS