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a topic which interests me concerning dance music is how people arrived at it. i myself have music rooting in earlier hip-hop, then i moved into the technopop (erasure, depeche) thing, and eventually i found industrial music. i likes the beat oriented material the best - so the guitar/metal industrial didn't qualify. eventually i found dance music- the idm scene. i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if we have the same influences and roots... i think it will definitely aid to everyone's understanding of where everyone is coming from and why we see things differently in music (among other reasons- but this is a start). manish

a topic which interests me concerning dance music is how people arrived at it. i myself have music rooting in earlier hip-hop, then i moved into the technopop (erasure, depeche) thing, and eventually i found industrial music. i likes the beat oriented material the best - so the guitar/metal industrial didn't qualify. eventually i found dance music- the idm scene. i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if we have the same influences and roots... i think it will definitely aid to everyone's understanding of where everyone is coming from and why we see things differently in music (among other reasons- but this is a start). manish

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punk to hardcore to noise to Skinny Puppy to "dance" industrial to here to............ Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Robert Williams</>MANNA-MACHINE<\>fEEd</>Hellsville noise williams@manna-machine.com OR williams@mr.net gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten....

punk to hardcore to noise to Skinny Puppy to "dance" industrial to here to............ Kennen Sie eine Merle? Kennen Sie eine Merle? Das ist gut...zu gut. Robert Williams</>MANNA-MACHINE<\>fEEd</>Hellsville noise williams@manna-machine.com OR williams@mr.net gerade sie..sie ist mein Opfer. Schad um sie.... sie wird's..ach, nicht lange durchhalten....

When I was about 6, my older sister and I pooled our money to buy Parliament's "Mothership Connection", and the rest was more or less inevitable. Around 1979 or '80 The Electrifying Mojo (God's personal DJ, Detroit Stylee) started playing new wave records alongside P-Funk, Kraftwerk, and Prince. Later he began to mix in the then-new Detroit sounds of Atkins, Saunderson, et. al. Jeff Mills had a nightly DJ slot for a number of years on a local station as well, where you could hear early Detroit techno alongside Chicago house, Miami electro and British synthpop. Later on I heard some dance-industrial (middle-period Ministry, Cabs, and 242) so that got mixed into the stew as well. Really, I had no choice in the matter -- IDM is in my blood. :) | Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) | | | | marmoset@msen.com "...driving in my Cosmic Car..." |

The Art Of Noise. That's it. Everything flows from there. They're the reason I like techno, they're the reason I like industrial, they're the reason I like ambient, they're the reason I like experimental, and they're the reason I like IDM. They're not the reason I like Metallica, Stereolab, Beastie Boys, Prince, U2 or "Weird Al" Yankovic, but some things just can't be explained. :-) - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com

The Art Of Noise. That's it. Everything flows from there. They're the reason I like techno, they're the reason I like industrial, they're the reason I like ambient, they're the reason I like experimental, and they're the reason I like IDM. They're not the reason I like Metallica, Stereolab, Beastie Boys, Prince, U2 or "Weird Al" Yankovic, but some things just can't be explained. :-) - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com

quoted 5 lines a topic which interests me concerning dance music is how people arrived at

>a topic which interests me concerning dance music is how people arrived at >it. i myself have music rooting in earlier hip-hop, then i moved into the >technopop (erasure, depeche) thing, and eventually i found industrial music. >i likes the beat oriented material the best - so the guitar/metal industrial >didn't qualify. eventually i found dance music- the idm scene.

well, i've always liked dance music but for a long time all i listened to was the radio - hey, i didn't even have a walkman, why would i buy music? - so all i knew was the stuff on top 40. then about my junior year in high school i started to go to these trendy-ass asian parties and even though the attitude was nauseating, they introduced me to alternative/new wave/proto-electronic music (they played other stuff too but it was mostly all crap) like dm, erasure, psb, omd, new order, info. society, etc...and then Basic Instinct came out, along with 2unlimited and from there i tried to find out as much about techno as i could, stumbled along some friendly sources/wells of information and here i am today. =) ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "These are not my figures I'm quoting. They're |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| from someone who knows what he's talking about." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - unknown congressman in debate |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:)

Date: Tue, 01 Mar 1994 13:20:12 -0500 (EST) From: NEESH <MS5224%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.albany.edu> X-Envelope-To: idm@techno.stanford.EDU X-Vms-To: @IDM Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sender: idm-owner@techno.stanford.edu i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if we have the same influences and roots... i think it will definitely aid to everyone's understanding of where everyone is coming from and why we see things differently in music (among other reasons- but this is a start). this topic interests me also.. the first band i really really liked was talking heads. then i moved on to pink floyd, some of which may qualify as ambient.. then through dance music and technopop, i liked DEVO a lot.. I bought the KLF's "White Room" as soon as i saw the video for 3 AM Eternal on MTV.. Then i got into industrial through (the shame) Nine Inch Nails.. I started watching MTV's 120 Minutes, which led me to buy Meat Beat Manifesto, Nitzer Ebb, etc. A British friend at a camp where I worked one summer told me to buy something by the Orb, and i got u.f.orb. this led to my orb obsession. :) then i met a friend who dj's and his recommendations led me to Warp Records, and i haven't looked back. This mailing list and Select! Magazine are probably the two places i find put about stuff i think i might like. Now you know. -- ian

Lets see... at 11 or 12 years of age... i started into serious music listening... i was into rap...nyc hip hop etc...a bit of l.a. stuff...by the time i was 13 i was into the breakin stuff..."techno"funk from l.a. and miami... egyptian lover and that crowd...that was all around 1984 or 85... then in 1986...when i was about 15...we started hearing house music...farley "jackmaster" funk and the like...(anybody remember "aw shucks"?)...then by the end of high school...the "acid" sound was getting big...i was buying all the stuff...rap, house, razormaid junk...all that crap... then...i cant remember all this stuff... i guess since i was 17 i evolved musically from almost all rap to almost all techno etc...i pretty much went straight from public enemy to d-mob...that was my first sort of techno purchase...i ripped off some dudes tape from a party that had mixes of a whole lot of techno from some club in dallas...and the d-mob song "acieeed" was on it and i figured out what it was and found it and bought it....and then the new beat stuff came in...and that maurice guy with "this is acid" and then i went to tower in atlanta and bought a double vinyl comp called acid house volume (whatever the number was) and ive been pretty much all techno and newage/ambient for the rest of the time. was that incoherent or what? later jasonosaj. @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@ j a h 1 0 @ r a . m s s t a t e . e d u @@@ @@@ @@@ --------------------------------------- @@@ @@@ @@@ b R o t H e R A l p H a B e T @@@ @@@ @@@ --------------------------------------- @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@-how many days to oblivion anyway?????-

quoted 2 lines i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if

>i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if >we have the same influences and roots...

It started out with some underground electronic stuff. Cosmic Overdose etc => Kraftwerk(in my heart 4ever), YMO, Logic System, Telex, Tangerine Dream etc => Planet Rock => electro. Egyptian Lover, Unknown DJ, Cybotron etc. Mantronix. => Severed Heads, Twitch-style Ministry etc. A bit of Puppy. => Acid house => Dance music with bleeps => IDM & Techno. Spasm, xon, some AFX & some FSOL, Speedy J, Red Planet, Code 6, Source etc But there were also other stuff such as the Art of Noise, Cocteau Twins, Devo, John Foxx, Twice A Man, Shock, Dead can Dance, Maceo Parker, James Taylor Quartet etc Fredrik / RND

From the cyberdesk of: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist

quoted 21 lines i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if

>>i am really curious to know how all of you idm'ers arrived at dance music- if >>we have the same influences and roots... > >It started out with some underground electronic stuff. Cosmic Overdose etc >=> >Kraftwerk(in my heart 4ever), YMO, Logic System, Telex, Tangerine Dream etc >=> >Planet Rock =>electro. Egyptian Lover, Unknown DJ, Cybotron etc. Mantronix. >=> >Severed Heads, Twitch-style Ministry etc. A bit of Puppy. >=> >Acid house >=> >Dance music with bleeps >=> >IDM & Techno. Spasm, xon, some AFX & some FSOL, Speedy J, Red Planet, Code 6, > Source etc >But there were also other stuff such as the Art of Noise, Cocteau Twins, Devo, >John Foxx, Twice A Man, Shock, Dead can Dance, Maceo Parker, James Taylor >Quartet etc > Fredrik / RND

Unbelievable how similar our growth pattern is/was. Hmmmmm. Maybe I/you am/are not such a dork after all. Don't forget the splash of NewBeat and Acid thrown in just for grins. Oh, and Roxy Music, Ultravox (Well, John Foxx sorta covers it), Visage, Japan, Subway/Antler stuff, The early TDI TechnoDrome Int'l) series, Talla 2XLC. Did you do a house phase, too? I lived near Chicago during those years, and so it was fairly influential in the mix on the way to the re-imported-from-the-UK-version called Acid House. Jack Master Farley, etc. Who is Jack? and where is this House everyone is talkin' 'bout? Oh, and some ArtOfNoise, Blancmange, Depeche Mode, Eurythmics, Chris & Cosey, Throbbing Gristle, should be tossed in for flavor. Uhh, and Patrick Cowley and Gorgio Moroder way, way, way back, when you had to fake rich synthesizer sounds with heavy layering and reverb. Check out "Foothils of Kilmanjaro" or "Black Devil" to see what I mean. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael King mike%delta1@rex.cs.tulane.edu Delta Systems New Orleans, LA 70002 Voice: 504.837.9835 Fax: 504.837.9838 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Never under estimate the bandwidth of a station wagon loaded with mag tapes. -From the "kermit" manual ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pivotal points in my music-loving career occured when I discovered (or was introduced to): The Beatles/George Harrison/Lennon/McCartney - Pre-1980 Hard Rock/Classic Rock/Early Electronic Stuff (Devo, Thomas Dolby, Rush) - 1979-1981 Early Hip-Hop/Electro/R&B (Twilight 22, Afrika Bambaata, D-Train, Jam Hot, Rick James, Grandmaster Flash, Fresh 3 MCs, Divine Sounds, the list goes on forever..) - 1981- More Hip-Hop (Run DMC, LL Cool J, Schooly D, Houdini, Mantronix, Dr. Jeckyll & Mr. Hyde, and the list goes on..) - -1987 Punk Rock (What?! This came at just the right time to shake me out of my musical malaise.. ;) (Misfits, Minor Threat, Cro-Mags, etc.. This was short lived.) - 1987-1988 Synth-Pop/Latin Freestyle/Some House Music (Depeche Mode, Maurice, Camouflage, Early Ministry) - 1988 House Music All Night Long (Hithouse, Baby Ford, A Guy Called Gerald, Bappi Lahiri, Kiss AMC, 808 State, Tyree, Meat Beat Manifesto [I guess that's not really house music, but I got into it at around the same time], Shamen, Renegade Soundwave, Orbital, etc..) - 1989- Ambient/Ethereal/Ethnic Music (David Sylvian, Cocteu Twins, Dead Can Dance, etc..) - 1991- Current Incarnations of Electronic/ House/Techno Music (LFO, Aphex Twin, Sweet Exorcist, EON, etc..) - 1991-1992 The time up until now has been spent exploring the various phases of music that I've been through. I made this 'time-line' a little bit rigid, but t styles overlapped a great deal - for instance, hip-hop has stayed with me since I got into it.. I dunno, that's about it.. Darshan

Hey, weren't any of you around when we did this thread before? Tamara Palmer Women Respond To Bass ............................................................................... trance@netcom.com (the address of choice) izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu izzypk3@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (yes, i is a college student) urbmag@netcom.com (open for your comments about URB Magazine!) ...............................................................................

On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Tamara Palmer wrote:

quoted 12 lines Hey, weren't any of you around when we did this thread before?

> Hey, weren't any of you around when we did this thread before? > > > > Tamara Palmer Women Respond To Bass > ............................................................................... > > trance@netcom.com (the address of choice) > izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu > izzypk3@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (yes, i is a college student) > urbmag@netcom.com (open for your comments about URB Magazine!) > ...............................................................................

Nope! Let's see...the Beatles, Syd Barrett, other 60s psychedelic and pop stuff in the late 70s..punk, ska, and new wave (Specials, Costello, Devo, XTC, etc.) in the early 80s...REM, Smiths, Depeche Mode, etc. in the mid-to-late 80s...then New Order, Charlatans (progressively getting more dancey!), and finally raves in late 1992. Heavy dollops of ambient music, from early Pink Floyd to PiL (yes, ambient--especially some things on _The Flowers of Romance_, and the great b-side "Home is Where the Heart Is"), Terry Riley, etc. etc. Because of this thread, I've had to actually think about this, but dancing has always been a key element, and I've always highly valued that nebulous but critical factor of "intelligence"...from the English Beat to Orbital...gotta have some brain food... I also like this thread. I'm learning about groups whose names I've seen, but never really knew. Best, stu 8) (again, I'm guilty--someone has to be square so somebody else can be hip!)