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it's too quiet in here also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album you should all check out

maybe everyone's hunting down Observance from Airliner Srs. http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm who's airliner srs? well.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c have fun On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 5 lines it's too quiet in here

> it's too quiet in here > > also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album > you should all check out >

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Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is there anything more uptempo and filled out? --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet To: "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> Cc: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:18 AM maybe everyone's hunting down  Observance from Airliner Srs. http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm who's airliner srs? well.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c have fun On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 5 lines it's too quiet in here

> it's too quiet in here > > also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album > you should all check out >

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heres some terribly quiet trax: http://soundcloud.com/lackluster/sets/3-trax-that-seem-to-go-together + extra bonus: happy birthday nikola tesla (july10) http://soundcloud.com/lackluster/sets/10th-of-july-2009-jams On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Benjamin McCook<ben_mccook@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 36 lines Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is there anything more

> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is there anything more uptempo and filled out? > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > To: "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> > Cc: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:18 AM > > > maybe everyone's hunting down  Observance from Airliner Srs. > http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm > > who's airliner srs? well.. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc > http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c > > have fun > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> it's too quiet in here >> >> also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album >> you should all check out >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

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Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet

quoted 38 lines Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is

> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is > there anything more uptempo and filled out? > > --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > To: "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> > Cc: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:18 AM > > > maybe everyone's hunting down Observance from Airliner Srs. > http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm > > who's airliner srs? well.. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc > http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c > > have fun > > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> it's too quiet in here >> >> also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient >> album >> you should all check out >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

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Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody was talking... I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote:

quoted 52 lines Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo

> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >> >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >> To: "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> >> Cc: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:18 AM >> >> >> maybe everyone's hunting down Observance from Airliner Srs. >> http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm >> >> who's airliner srs? well.. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc >> http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c >> >> have fun >> >> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> it's too quiet in here >>> >>> also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark >>> ambient album >>> you should all check out >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

has everyone here heard motionfield's "optical flow"....beautiful stuff. its downtempo, but with a really 'filled out' sound. this was my favorite albume of 2008. highly recommended. On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 5 lines it's too quiet in here

> it's too quiet in here > > also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album > you should all check out >

Like techno? Check out Mateo Murphy's remix... https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/183696/it_is_what_it_is ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is there anything more uptempo and filled out? --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet To: "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> Cc: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:18 AM maybe everyone's hunting down Observance from Airliner Srs. http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm who's airliner srs? well.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c have fun On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 5 lines it's too quiet in here

> it's too quiet in here > > also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album > you should all check out >

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No, I thought techno was the antinym of IDM... Wtf is IDM anyway in that case? Does it all have to be minimal and repetative? --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Patrick Matte <info@patrickmatte.com> wrote: From: Patrick Matte <info@patrickmatte.com> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet To: idm@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 5:12 AM Like techno? Check out Mateo Murphy's remix... https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/183696/it_is_what_it_is ----- Original Message ----- From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but is there anything more uptempo and filled out? --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet To: "Clint Anderson" <clinta@gmail.com> Cc: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 3:18 AM maybe everyone's hunting down Observance from Airliner Srs. http://www.junodownload.com/products/1450664-02.htm who's airliner srs? well.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo4H2ElDJkc http://soundcloud.com/brothomstates/airliner-series-6-4c have fun On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Clint Anderson<clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

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> it's too quiet in here > > also, proem's "you shall have ever been" is a fantastic dark ambient album > you should all check out >

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http://soundcloud.com/mateo-murphy On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Patrick Matte<info@patrickmatte.com> wrote:

quoted 3 lines Like techno?

> Like techno? > Check out Mateo Murphy's remix... > https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/183696/it_is_what_it_is

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I personally thought IDM could range from 'ambient' to really hard- and break- core, and thats why I love it.. not all ambient is IDM and not all breakcore is IDM either, but IDM goes through em... (?) any reviews on this album? anyone knows it? havent checked yet myself, but looks like its something popular?? Various - IDM Mind Tree [2009<http://acousmatiksystem.blogspot.com/2009/05/various-mind-tree-2009.html> *]* album art<http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Uq8OW9yXz_k/ShSXqvZ7NJI/AAAAAAAAAK4/4RSnmF_aPIQ/s1600-h/mind-tree.jpg> in it: 01 Mosaic Mosaic - Irresolution (Solution) 02 Bitbasic - Fractal Pants 03 Sourone - Making Every Promise Empty 04 Ibunshi - Sipher 05 The Get - The Darkness 06 Permutated - Death Ray Nocturnal 07 Dfader - What Was Lost Can Never Be Found 08 tuneboxii - Feed The Keys 09 Sartre - The Great Elk 10 Son of Akira - Panhandler Interlude 11 Halogen - The Rocketeer 12 Pointblank - Keep Walking 13 Me+You - E Piano 14 IG-88 - Planet Parenthood 15 Jwilson - It Flickers Between The Endless 16 Altered Tensions - Things Change Swiftly 17 Atra Aeterna - When The World Ends i dont know any of the artists too!!!! *oops* 2009/7/30 Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com>

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> http://soundcloud.com/mateo-murphy > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Patrick Matte<info@patrickmatte.com> > wrote: > > Like techno? > > Check out Mateo Murphy's remix... > > > https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/183696/it_is_what_it_is > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher?? No one talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were better. It was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for christ sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have all his albums and its trash. -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am To: idm@hyperreal.org From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody was talking... I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote:

quoted 16 lines Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo

> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >> >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail

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i think idmers tend to glom onto certain artists regardless of genre, we hear some house artist who has some kind of glitchy/dubby/weird new sound, and we all decide, more or less totally by coincidence that guy is idm :) sort of how idm music itself borrows from every genre, as fans we sort of borrow artists from every genre into our 'idm' scene, soon they find themselves surrounded/assimilated as their entire fanbase becomes idm-heads Clint Anderson System Administrator On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Corey Kazaks <cakazaks@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 45 lines Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher??

> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher?? > No one talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that > were better. It was more than music for both of them. I have a square > pusher tattoo for christ sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what > anyone says, i have all his albums and its trash. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > > Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody > was talking... > > I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat > techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre > then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. > > <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> > <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> > > On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: > > > Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > > > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > > > >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but > >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? > >> > >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

also i see this today http://www.themilkfactory.co.uk/st/2009/07/luke-vibert-we-hear-you-planet-mu/ new vibert! yay Clint Anderson System Administrator On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:40 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 61 lines i think idmers tend to glom onto certain artists regardless of genre, we

> i think idmers tend to glom onto certain artists regardless of genre, we > hear some house artist who has some kind of glitchy/dubby/weird new sound, > and we all decide, more or less totally by coincidence that guy is idm :) > sort of how idm music itself borrows from every genre, as fans we sort of > borrow artists from every genre into our 'idm' scene, soon they find > themselves surrounded/assimilated as their entire fanbase becomes idm-heads > > Clint Anderson > System Administrator > > > > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Corey Kazaks <cakazaks@hotmail.com>wrote: > >> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and >> squarepusher?? No one talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard >> very few that were better. It was more than music for both of them. I have >> a square pusher tattoo for christ sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont >> care what anyone says, i have all his albums and its trash. >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >> >> Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody >> was talking... >> >> I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat >> techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre >> then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. >> >> <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> >> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> >> >> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: >> >> > Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo >> > >> > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ >> > -------------------------------------------------- >> > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM >> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >> > >> >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >> >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >

riddle me this: why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he "sucks ass"?? *scratches head* anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they deplore? maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance after 40+ releases of disappointment. you're a bigger person than i am... ...or masochistic - whichever. -drbmd -- On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher?? No one talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were better. It was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for christ sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have all his albums and its trash. -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am To: idm@hyperreal.org From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody was talking... I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote:

quoted 16 lines Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo

> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >> >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail

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In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums. Mantrakid Neferiu Records | www.neferiu.com | Nate Schmold Contact Us | info@neferiu.com | 1.888.281.4220 (Ext. 2) New Shit | Ricca Razor Sharp: Causeways + C-Trains On 31-Jul-09, at 11:34 AM, dr. butcher m.d. wrote: riddle me this: why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he "sucks ass"?? *scratches head* anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they deplore? maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance after 40+ releases of disappointment. you're a bigger person than i am... ...or masochistic - whichever. -drbmd -- On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher?? No one talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were better. It was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for christ sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have all his albums and its trash. -----Original Message----- Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am To: idm@hyperreal.org From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody was talking... I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote:

quoted 16 lines Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo

> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >> >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail

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Do you have the latest one then? Is it better than anything he's done since Play, or is everyone that's saying that full of sh*t? I mean, even Play was not particularly good, but it had its moments (i.e., on the tracks where he was NOT doing what some might confuse with singing) (I'm not one that buys artists I deplore) On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:

quoted 89 lines In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums.

> In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums. > > Mantrakid > Neferiu Records | www.neferiu.com | Nate Schmold > Contact Us | info@neferiu.com | 1.888.281.4220 (Ext. 2) > New Shit | Ricca Razor Sharp: Causeways + C-Trains > > > On 31-Jul-09, at 11:34 AM, dr. butcher m.d. wrote: > > riddle me this: > why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he > "sucks ass"?? > *scratches head* > anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they deplore? > maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... > i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance > after 40+ releases of disappointment. > you're a bigger person than i am... > ...or masochistic - whichever. > > -drbmd > > -- > > > On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: > Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher?? > No one > talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were > better. It > was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for > christ > sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have all > his > albums and its trash. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > > Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody > was talking... > > I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat > techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre > then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. > > <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> > <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> > > On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: > > Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo >> >> http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM >> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >> >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >>> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >>> >>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > !DSPAM:1,4a71b786150613810818015! > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >

Heh, forgot I have a lala.com account for a minute there, so I'll answer my own question. It's just like Play.... except more boring. That dude gives electronica a bad name... On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@gmail.com>wrote:

quoted 103 lines Do you have the latest one then?

> Do you have the latest one then? > > Is it better than anything he's done since Play, or is everyone that's > saying that full of sh*t? > I mean, even Play was not particularly good, but it had its moments (i.e., > on the tracks where he was NOT doing what some might confuse with singing) > > (I'm not one that buys artists I deplore) > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: > >> In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums. >> >> Mantrakid >> Neferiu Records | www.neferiu.com | Nate Schmold >> Contact Us | info@neferiu.com | 1.888.281.4220 (Ext. 2) >> New Shit | Ricca Razor Sharp: Causeways + C-Trains >> >> >> On 31-Jul-09, at 11:34 AM, dr. butcher m.d. wrote: >> >> riddle me this: >> why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he >> "sucks ass"?? >> *scratches head* >> anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they >> deplore? >> maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... >> i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance >> after 40+ releases of disappointment. >> you're a bigger person than i am... >> ...or masochistic - whichever. >> >> -drbmd >> >> -- >> >> >> On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: >> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and >> squarepusher?? No one >> talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were >> better. It >> was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for >> christ >> sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have all >> his >> albums and its trash. >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >> >> Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody >> was talking... >> >> I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat >> techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre >> then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. >> >> <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> >> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> >> >> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: >> >> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo >>> >>> http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM >>> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >>> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >>> >>> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >>>> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> !DSPAM:1,4a71b786150613810818015! >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >

Yeah I was being completely sarcastic - I hate moby with all my core, even Play was shite to me despite its critical acclaim. Should have been called "car commercials" or something. I've not heard any Moby since that just because i cant stand the guy, he looks like a penis with glasses. I hate the way he talks, I hate how awkwardly entitled he sounds in interviews. I hate that he has no chin. Then he came out with this new album and I was curious. I heard people saying good things, so I just had to go out and buy it (ed. find it on rapidshare). I have to admit, there are a couple tracks I like - they have a bit of a orchestral feel to them. BUt there are some tracks, like what you are describing with the 'singing'. He again tries to sing on this and it causes my deep down rage to bubble back up to the surface. I just don't get why this guy is such a 'darling', im single-handedly using him as the scapegoat for killing any chance of electronic music in the mainstream. Its not a fair accusation, nor do I even have proper grounds for such an accusation. But it's what I believe. Mkid On 31-Jul-09, at 11:57 AM, Wendy Branson wrote: Heh, forgot I have a lala.com account for a minute there, so I'll answer my own question. It's just like Play.... except more boring. That dude gives electronica a bad name... On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@gmail.com>wrote:

quoted 109 lines Do you have the latest one then?

> Do you have the latest one then? > > Is it better than anything he's done since Play, or is everyone that's > saying that full of sh*t? > I mean, even Play was not particularly good, but it had its moments > (i.e., > on the tracks where he was NOT doing what some might confuse with > singing) > > (I'm not one that buys artists I deplore) > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> > wrote: > >> In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums. >> >> Mantrakid >> Neferiu Records | www.neferiu.com | Nate Schmold >> Contact Us | info@neferiu.com | 1.888.281.4220 (Ext. 2) >> New Shit | Ricca Razor Sharp: Causeways + C-Trains >> >> >> On 31-Jul-09, at 11:34 AM, dr. butcher m.d. wrote: >> >> riddle me this: >> why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he >> "sucks ass"?? >> *scratches head* >> anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they >> deplore? >> maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... >> i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance >> after 40+ releases of disappointment. >> you're a bigger person than i am... >> ...or masochistic - whichever. >> >> -drbmd >> >> -- >> >> >> On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: >> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and >> squarepusher?? No one >> talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were >> better. It >> was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher >> tattoo for >> christ >> sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i >> have all >> his >> albums and its trash. >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> >> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >> >> Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody >> was talking... >> >> I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat >> techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the >> genre >> then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. >> >> <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> >> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> >> >> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: >> >> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo >>> >>> http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM >>> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >>> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >>> >>> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >>>> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >>>> >>>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail >>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> !DSPAM:1,4a71b786150613810818015! >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >

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No, I'm right with ya there... I live in the southeastern US (where indie pop, hip-hop and country music rule) and more times than not when I tell someone I like electronica, they say, "You mean like Moby?" with this disgusted look on their faces.... I have a music-related sh*t-list... there are 2 artists on it. The Dave Matthews Band is the other one... On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote:

quoted 150 lines Yeah I was being completely sarcastic - I hate moby with all my core, even

> Yeah I was being completely sarcastic - I hate moby with all my core, even > Play was shite to me despite its critical acclaim. Should have been called > "car commercials" or something. > > I've not heard any Moby since that just because i cant stand the guy, he > looks like a penis with glasses. I hate the way he talks, I hate how > awkwardly entitled he sounds in interviews. I hate that he has no chin. > > Then he came out with this new album and I was curious. I heard people > saying good things, so I just had to go out and buy it (ed. find it on > rapidshare). I have to admit, there are a couple tracks I like - they have a > bit of a orchestral feel to them. BUt there are some tracks, like what you > are describing with the 'singing'. He again tries to sing on this and it > causes my deep down rage to bubble back up to the surface. > > I just don't get why this guy is such a 'darling', im single-handedly using > him as the scapegoat for killing any chance of electronic music in the > mainstream. Its not a fair accusation, nor do I even have proper grounds for > such an accusation. But it's what I believe. > > Mkid > > > > On 31-Jul-09, at 11:57 AM, Wendy Branson wrote: > > Heh, forgot I have a lala.com account for a minute there, so I'll answer > my > own question. > > It's just like Play.... except more boring. > That dude gives electronica a bad name... > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@gmail.com > >wrote: > > Do you have the latest one then? >> >> Is it better than anything he's done since Play, or is everyone that's >> saying that full of sh*t? >> I mean, even Play was not particularly good, but it had its moments (i.e., >> on the tracks where he was NOT doing what some might confuse with singing) >> >> (I'm not one that buys artists I deplore) >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> wrote: >> >> In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums. >>> >>> Mantrakid >>> Neferiu Records | www.neferiu.com | Nate Schmold >>> Contact Us | info@neferiu.com | 1.888.281.4220 (Ext. 2) >>> New Shit | Ricca Razor Sharp: Causeways + C-Trains >>> >>> >>> On 31-Jul-09, at 11:34 AM, dr. butcher m.d. wrote: >>> >>> riddle me this: >>> why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he >>> "sucks ass"?? >>> *scratches head* >>> anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they >>> deplore? >>> maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... >>> i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance >>> after 40+ releases of disappointment. >>> you're a bigger person than i am... >>> ...or masochistic - whichever. >>> >>> -drbmd >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: >>> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and >>> squarepusher?? No one >>> talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were >>> better. It >>> was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for >>> christ >>> sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have >>> all >>> his >>> albums and its trash. >>> -----Original Message----- >>> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am >>> To: idm@hyperreal.org >>> From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> >>> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >>> >>> Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody >>> was talking... >>> >>> I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat >>> techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre >>> then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. >>> >>> <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> >>> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> >>> >>> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: >>> >>> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM >>>> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet >>>> >>>> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but >>>> >>>>> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? >>>>> >>>>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> !DSPAM:1,4a71b786150613810818015! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

We are SO on the same page. ;) On 31-Jul-09, at 12:09 PM, Wendy Branson wrote: No, I'm right with ya there... I live in the southeastern US (where indie pop, hip-hop and country music rule) and more times than not when I tell someone I like electronica, they say, "You mean like Moby?" with this disgusted look on their faces.... I have a music-related sh*t-list... there are 2 artists on it. The Dave Matthews Band is the other one... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

AgreeNext is the next is the next is the rubbish bin Clint Anderson System Administrator On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@gmail.com>wrote:

quoted 119 lines Heh, forgot I have a lala.com account for a minute there, so I'll answer

> Heh, forgot I have a lala.com account for a minute there, so I'll answer > my > own question. > > It's just like Play.... except more boring. > That dude gives electronica a bad name... > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Wendy Branson <speechless1974@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Do you have the latest one then? > > > > Is it better than anything he's done since Play, or is everyone that's > > saying that full of sh*t? > > I mean, even Play was not particularly good, but it had its moments > (i.e., > > on the tracks where he was NOT doing what some might confuse with > singing) > > > > (I'm not one that buys artists I deplore) > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Mantrakid <mantrakid@neferiu.com> > wrote: > > > >> In answer to your question: Yes, I have all the Moby albums. > >> > >> Mantrakid > >> Neferiu Records | www.neferiu.com | Nate Schmold > >> Contact Us | info@neferiu.com | 1.888.281.4220 (Ext. 2) > >> New Shit | Ricca Razor Sharp: Causeways + C-Trains > >> > >> > >> On 31-Jul-09, at 11:34 AM, dr. butcher m.d. wrote: > >> > >> riddle me this: > >> why on earth would you have all of vsnares albums if "its trash" & he > >> "sucks ass"?? > >> *scratches head* > >> anyone else out there collecting the discographies of artists they > >> deplore? > >> maybe it's a trend i'm late picking up on... > >> i will say it's big of you to continue giving his music a chance > >> after 40+ releases of disappointment. > >> you're a bigger person than i am... > >> ...or masochistic - whichever. > >> > >> -drbmd > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> On Thu, July 30, 2009 11:08 am, Corey Kazaks wrote: > >> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and > >> squarepusher?? No one > >> talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that were > >> better. It > >> was more than music for both of them. I have a square pusher tattoo for > >> christ > >> sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what anyone says, i have > all > >> his > >> albums and its trash. > >> -----Original Message----- > >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am > >> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >> From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> > >> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > >> > >> Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody > >> was talking... > >> > >> I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat > >> techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre > >> then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. > >> > >> <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> > >> <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> > >> > >> On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: > >> > >> Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > >>> > >>> http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > >>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>> From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > >>> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > >>> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > >>> Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > >>> > >>> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but > >>>> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? > >>>> > >>>> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail > >>>> > >>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> !DSPAM:1,4a71b786150613810818015! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> > > >

To be honest, I like to think of it as being as much about dance music that's got a contemplative / introspective side to it as being about people who set out to make something in the IDM genre and can't be classified as anything else. To which end, I'm currently rather liking Silkie's debut album - deep dubstep with a lot of the atmosphere of classic detroit techno or early IDM. Very nice. d. ________________________________ From: Clint Anderson [mailto:clinta@gmail.com] Sent: Thu 30/07/2009 16:40 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet i think idmers tend to glom onto certain artists regardless of genre, we hear some house artist who has some kind of glitchy/dubby/weird new sound, and we all decide, more or less totally by coincidence that guy is idm :) sort of how idm music itself borrows from every genre, as fans we sort of borrow artists from every genre into our 'idm' scene, soon they find themselves surrounded/assimilated as their entire fanbase becomes idm-heads Clint Anderson System Administrator On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Corey Kazaks <cakazaks@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 45 lines Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher??

> Whatever happened to the classic gods of idm? Like aphex and squarepusher?? > No one talks about them anymore, and since them ive heard very few that > were better. It was more than music for both of them. I have a square > pusher tattoo for christ sakes. Oh and Vsnares sucks ass, i dont care what > anyone says, i have all his albums and its trash. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:25:13 am > To: idm@hyperreal.org > From: Stef Michalski <stef@futra.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > > Don't think the comment was that IDM is too quiet - just that nobody > was talking... > > I think that IDM can cover everything from soundscapes to breakbeat > techno - if you consider Black Dog & Plaid to be pioneers of the genre > then look at just how varied their output has been over the years. > > <http://www.last.fm/music/Television+Overdose/Seven7Seven> > <http://rapidshare.com/files/243532059/Television_Overdose.zip> > > On 30 Jul 2009, at 09:38, Beki wrote: > > > Try Chris Harvey, there are some tracks on here that are more uptempo > > > > http://www.magnatune.com/artists/albums/harvey-otherwake/ > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Benjamin McCook" <ben_mccook@yahoo.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:22 AM > > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > > Subject: Re: [idm] too quiet > > > >> Sometimes I think that IDM is too quiet.. I like minimal stuff, but > >> is there anything more uptempo and filled out? > >> > >> --- On Thu, 7/30/09, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> From: Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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That is good news but I'd say I am looking forward to the new Clark more. oops it's already out nevermind :/

quoted 1 line also i see this today

>> also i see this today

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