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2008-01-29 19:43Jacob ArnoldMail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's worth the $51.23 plus s

From:: Jacob Arnold <jacob@gridface.com>
To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 12:43:26 -0700
Subject:: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?

Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative versions that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it just the crappy exchange rate? J On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:37 PM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote:

quoted 20 lines From: nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>

> From: nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> > Date: January 29, 2008 11:31:33 AM MST > To: "Shimone @ StaticBeats" <shimone@staticbeats.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead? > > > > that definitely had me thinking too... i mean, it sounds like they > put a decent amount of time on the bonus disc... how much do you > think they take home from each of those? > 5 pounds? > > are they mailorder only i assume? maybe i pick up a deluxe when > they come to nyc... and make a necklace out of it... and get 'idm is > dead/alive' tattooed on my forehead... and swallow the contents of a > glowstick and pee nonsensical graffiti on the side of police cars in > the middle of the day with glowing urine... so my message only > appears at night, when they are parked next to each other.. and it > reads....

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2008-01-29 19:46Neil WalshBy the sounds of it, most of the extra expense is on the packaging. Neil On Jan 29, 2008 7

From:: Neil Walsh <walsh.neil@gmail.com>
To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:46:51 +0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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By the sounds of it, most of the extra expense is on the packaging. Neil On Jan 29, 2008 7:43 PM, Jacob Arnold <jacob@gridface.com> wrote:

quoted 37 lines Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's

> Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative versions > that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it just the > crappy exchange rate? > > J > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:37 PM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote: > > > From: nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> > > Date: January 29, 2008 11:31:33 AM MST > > To: "Shimone @ StaticBeats" <shimone@staticbeats.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org > > > > > Subject: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead? > > > > > > > > that definitely had me thinking too... i mean, it sounds like they > > put a decent amount of time on the bonus disc... how much do you > > think they take home from each of those? > > 5 pounds? > > > > are they mailorder only i assume? maybe i pick up a deluxe when > > they come to nyc... and make a necklace out of it... and get 'idm is > > dead/alive' tattooed on my forehead... and swallow the contents of a > > glowstick and pee nonsensical graffiti on the side of police cars in > > the middle of the day with glowing urine... so my message only > > appears at night, when they are parked next to each other.. and it > > reads.... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2008-01-29 20:02Neil WalshPS Looks like the whole album is up for download on bleep already. Neil On Jan 29, 2008 7:

From:: Neil Walsh <walsh.neil@gmail.com>
To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:02:40 +0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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PS Looks like the whole album is up for download on bleep already. Neil On Jan 29, 2008 7:46 PM, Neil Walsh <walsh.neil@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 44 lines By the sounds of it, most of the extra expense is on the packaging.

> By the sounds of it, most of the extra expense is on the packaging. > > Neil > > > On Jan 29, 2008 7:43 PM, Jacob Arnold <jacob@gridface.com> wrote: > > Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative versions > > that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it just the > > crappy exchange rate? > > > > J > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 12:37 PM, idm-digest-help@hyperreal.org wrote: > > > > > From: nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> > > > Date: January 29, 2008 11:31:33 AM MST > > > To: "Shimone @ StaticBeats" <shimone@staticbeats.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > Subject: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead? > > > > > > > > > > > > that definitely had me thinking too... i mean, it sounds like they > > > put a decent amount of time on the bonus disc... how much do you > > > think they take home from each of those? > > > 5 pounds? > > > > > > are they mailorder only i assume? maybe i pick up a deluxe when > > > they come to nyc... and make a necklace out of it... and get 'idm is > > > dead/alive' tattooed on my forehead... and swallow the contents of a > > > glowstick and pee nonsensical graffiti on the side of police cars in > > > the middle of the day with glowing urine... so my message only > > > appears at night, when they are parked next to each other.. and it > > > reads.... > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > >

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2008-01-30 00:27max0666On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jacob Arnold wrote: > Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't

From:: max0666 <max0666@cox.net>
To:: Jacob Arnold <jacob@gridface.com>
Cc:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:27:35 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jacob Arnold wrote:

quoted 6 lines Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's

> Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative > versions that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it > just the crappy exchange rate? > > J

Wow... the exchange rate when i made the purchase (including shipping) $66.60..... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2008-01-30 01:29nat hawksi couldn't help myself, i ordered from bleep... bad idea... i should have waited till tom.

From:: nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>
To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:29:57 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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i couldn't help myself, i ordered from bleep... bad idea... i should have waited till tom... my computer is asking like it's going to vomit baby food.

quoted 24 lines CC: idm@hyperreal.org

> CC: idm@hyperreal.org > From: max0666@cox.net > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:27:35 -0600 > To: jacob@gridface.com > Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead? > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jacob Arnold wrote: > > > Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative > > versions that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it > > just the crappy exchange rate? > > > > J > > > Wow... the exchange rate when i made the purchase (including > shipping) $66.60..... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2008-01-30 01:33joshua.OK, so i got the album and listened to it three times today... all i have to say is that i

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To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:33:59 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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OK, so i got the album and listened to it three times today... all i have to say is that it most definitely is an autechre album. it has a very "whatever, you know, we're jammin'!" feeling to it. joshua. On Jan 29, 2008 6:29 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 33 lines i couldn't help myself, i ordered from bleep... bad idea... i should have

> > i couldn't help myself, i ordered from bleep... bad idea... i should have > waited till tom... my computer is asking like it's going to vomit baby food. > > > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > > From: max0666@cox.net > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:27:35 -0600 > > To: jacob@gridface.com > > Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead? > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jacob Arnold wrote: > > > > > Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > > > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative > > > versions that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it > > > just the crappy exchange rate? > > > > > > J > > > > > > Wow... the exchange rate when i made the purchase (including > > shipping) $66.60..... > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008

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2008-01-30 01:37William Lebretonbut can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition? i have no problem with spen

From:: William Lebreton <boutboulman@gmail.com>
Cc:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 01:37:37 +0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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but can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition? i have no problem with spending money to be one of only 1000 to own an edition of an awesome album. but i haven't even downloaded it off bleep in case it's rubbish i'm hoping it'll just end up on soulseek before the special edition sells out! William (I'm new, this is my first 'post'. So hi all) On 30/01/2008, joshua. <joshua@ropeswingcities.com> wrote:

quoted 61 lines OK, so i got the album and listened to it three times today... all i have

> > OK, so i got the album and listened to it three times today... all i have > to > say is that it most definitely is an autechre album. > > it has a very "whatever, you know, we're jammin'!" feeling to it. > > joshua. > > On Jan 29, 2008 6:29 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > i couldn't help myself, i ordered from bleep... bad idea... i should > have > > waited till tom... my computer is asking like it's going to vomit baby > food. > > > > > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > > > From: max0666@cox.net > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:27:35 -0600 > > > To: jacob@gridface.com > > > Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead? > > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jacob Arnold wrote: > > > > > > > Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > > > > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative > > > > versions that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it > > > > just the crappy exchange rate? > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > Wow... the exchange rate when i made the purchase (including > > > shipping) $66.60..... > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > -- > joshua. > consequences are just a harmless by-product of having a good time all the > time. > http://ropeswingcities.com > http://communikey.us > http://ropeswingcities.com/josh23 > http://ropeswingcities.com/gg > http://www.spacepiratemusic.com >

2008-01-30 01:42theREALmxyzptlkWilliam Lebreton wrote: > but can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition? W

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To:: William Lebreton <boutboulman@gmail.com>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:42:00 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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William Lebreton wrote:

quoted 1 line but can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition?

> but can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition?

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2008-01-30 01:43joshua.it's not rubbish... but i don't think it's worth a... what... fifty dollar purchase? is th

From:: joshua. <joshua@ropeswingcities.com>
To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:43:42 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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it's not rubbish... but i don't think it's worth a... what... fifty dollar purchase? is that what the special edition costs? i dunno... there were a couple pretty brilliant moments, but overall i am pretty bored by it. i guess it just depends on how much you like autechre just totally being autechre. a friend who also listened to it three times today said this, "it sounds like they just sit in the studio getting high and jamming, and then they cut sections out and call them songs." there is a bit of randomness and lack of attention to detail in a lot of it... i feel. this is just my opinion, you know? folks love autechre. i will probably listen to it a few more times. this probably did not help you in your decision at all. joshua On Jan 29, 2008 6:37 PM, William Lebreton <boutboulman@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 77 lines but can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition?

> but can you tell me if it's worth getting the special edition? > i have no problem with spending money to be one of only 1000 to own an > edition of an awesome album. > but i haven't even downloaded it off bleep in case it's rubbish > i'm hoping it'll just end up on soulseek before the special edition sells > out! > > William (I'm new, this is my first 'post'. So hi all) > > On 30/01/2008, joshua. <joshua@ropeswingcities.com> wrote: > > > > OK, so i got the album and listened to it three times today... all i > have > > to > > say is that it most definitely is an autechre album. > > > > it has a very "whatever, you know, we're jammin'!" feeling to it. > > > > joshua. > > > > On Jan 29, 2008 6:29 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > i couldn't help myself, i ordered from bleep... bad idea... i should > > have > > > waited till tom... my computer is asking like it's going to vomit baby > > food. > > > > > > > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > > > > From: max0666@cox.net > > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:27:35 -0600 > > > > To: jacob@gridface.com > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is > undead? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 29, 2008, at 1:43 PM, Jacob Arnold wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mail-order only, it would seem. I don't know, I can't imagine it's > > > > > worth the $51.23 plus shipping just for a disc of alternative > > > > > versions that didn't make the cut! Are they being greedy, or is it > > > > > just the crappy exchange rate? > > > > > > > > > > J > > > > > > > > > > > > Wow... the exchange rate when i made the purchase (including > > > > shipping) $66.60..... > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > > > > > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 > > > > > > > > > > -- > > joshua. > > consequences are just a harmless by-product of having a good time all > the > > time. > > http://ropeswingcities.com > > http://communikey.us > > http://ropeswingcities.com/josh23 > > http://ropeswingcities.com/gg > > http://www.spacepiratemusic.com > > >

2008-01-30 01:55twilight_radio> a friend who also listened to it three times today said this, "it sounds> like they just

From:: twilight_radio <twilight_radio@hotmail.com>
To:: IDM IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 19:55:15 -0600
Subject:: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?
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quoted 1 line a friend who also listened to it three times today said this, "it sounds> like the

> a friend who also listened to it three times today said this, "it sounds> like they just sit in the studio getting high and jamming, and then they cut> sections out and call them songs."> > there is a bit of randomness and lack of attention to detail in a lot of> it... i feel. this is just my opinion, you know? folks love autechre. i will> probably listen to it a few more times.I understand exactly what this means. > this probably did not help you in your decision at all.Thank you, it has! Charles

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2008-01-30 02:33nat hawksmy bleep download of a zip just ended with this... "Couldn't execute query: SELECT don_zip

From:: nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:33:03 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] Autechre/bleep issue
Reply to:: RE: [idm] Autechre - Quaristice download etc - IDM is undead?

my bleep download of a zip just ended with this... "Couldn't execute query: SELECT don_zip FROM digimart_order_number WHERE don_order_id = 236709;. 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)" anyone know what-what this means? i emailed bleep and tried to figure it out, but i think it's computer speak more than actual human directions... _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan

2008-01-30 03:17Wallace Winfreynat hawks wrote: > my bleep download of a zip just ended with this... > > > "Couldn't exec

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To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:17:37 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre/bleep issue
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nat hawks wrote:

quoted 11 lines my bleep download of a zip just ended with this...

> my bleep download of a zip just ended with this... > > > "Couldn't execute query: > > SELECT don_zip FROM digimart_order_number WHERE don_order_id = 236709;. > > 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)" > > > anyone know what-what this means?

It means the web application powering their store could not make a connection to their database server, in this case, MySQL, which means it's probably melting under the load of so many people downloading the new Autechre album. My initial thoughts about it are that, like most Autechre albums since Amber, it's going to take a while to sink in. I listened to it once today and there were some parts that immediately jumped out at me, unexpected melodic ambient bits, that I found quite pleasing and accessible. There's a lot more rhythmic structure and the algorithmic-y sounding bits of past albums seem mostly gone. It's like they're moving back towards writing songs than creating environments. It's gonna take repeated listening in various environments before I'm able to really decide how I feel. "Promising" is how I would characterize my immediate feelings. Given how essential Autechre has been to IDM, I think there's gonna be an impulse in some folks to dismiss this early on, as they finally feel like it's OK to express their disappointment with more recent past efforts. I say, give this release a chance on it's own first before trying to put it in the context of everything else. It's not easy, accessible eye-dee-emm music that you can throw down in your DJ set and make the girls think you're cool, but none of us were really expecting that, right? It's deep and complex and defies immediate characterization. I also think it needs to be *listened* to and not "worked" to. cheers w --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2008-01-30 06:31WalkmanI'd say that if you give such a close listen to some other idm album you'll probably love

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To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:31:10 +0200 (EET)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Autechre/bleep issue
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I'd say that if you give such a close listen to some other idm album you'll probably love it, too. Unfortunately ae is kind of very special in this way since everybody give a hard tries to understand their music. It's a pity that many other great albums don't get as much attention. P.S. I have listen to only couple of tracks of Quaristice so no emotions about it, yet. It's a just a sad fereling about all this hype... Walkman www.sutemos.net Wallace Winfrey parašė:

quoted 56 lines nat hawks wrote:

> nat hawks wrote: >> my bleep download of a zip just ended with this... >> >> >> "Couldn't execute query: >> >> SELECT don_zip FROM digimart_order_number WHERE don_order_id = 236709;. >> >> 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket >> '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2)" >> >> >> anyone know what-what this means? > > It means the web application powering their store could not make a > connection to their database server, in this case, MySQL, which means > it's probably melting under the load of so many people downloading the > new Autechre album. > > My initial thoughts about it are that, like most Autechre albums since > Amber, it's going to take a while to sink in. I listened to it once > today and there were some parts that immediately jumped out at me, > unexpected melodic ambient bits, that I found quite pleasing and > accessible. > > There's a lot more rhythmic structure and the algorithmic-y sounding > bits of past albums seem mostly gone. It's like they're moving back > towards writing songs than creating environments. > > It's gonna take repeated listening in various environments before I'm > able to really decide how I feel. "Promising" is how I would > characterize my immediate feelings. > > Given how essential Autechre has been to IDM, I think there's gonna be > an impulse in some folks to dismiss this early on, as they finally feel > like it's OK to express their disappointment with more recent past > efforts. I say, give this release a chance on it's own first before > trying to put it in the context of everything else. > > It's not easy, accessible eye-dee-emm music that you can throw down in > your DJ set and make the girls think you're cool, but none of us were > really expecting that, right? > > It's deep and complex and defies immediate characterization. I also > think it needs to be *listened* to and not "worked" to. > > cheers > > w > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Re: [idm] Autechre/bleep issue