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quoted 9 lines personally, i love electronic music, i love music that uses a minimum

> personally, i love electronic music, i love music that uses a minimum > of electronics (basically the recording equipment), i love music that mixes > and matches whatever. i admit i am a bit "over" the "standard" IDM "sound" as > practiced by certain descendants of the biggest bands on warp. but the best > stuff stays listenable, and new things constantly recreate from the old by > breaking the rules and remaking their own. if IDM is simply one of many > catch-all terms to define an ever-morphing type of electronic music, rather > than a single genre existing during a fixed period of time, then theoretically > it will never "die".

Again, I agree with pretty much all of this. It's kind of the reason I've tended to shout IDMiaMLnaG at every oppurtunity. Once you define IDM to be 'bands that sound quite a lot like Proem' it's by definition not going to be particularly interesting, innovative stuff, and people are going to call bullshit when we claim that we listen to IDM because it's such exciting, groundbreaking music. So, can we get constructive and suggest some exciting electronic music that isn't 'the standard IDM sound'? I'll open the bidding at Skream, Black Dice, Exile and Ø. David This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I'll answer that from another angle: the microtech/house field. Check the new 2x12" by Villalobos (Achso), the Hrdvsion (on Wagon Repair), some of the Lee Van Dowski and the new Ho To Make Sense of a Window 12"s, which, while (some of them) remaining squarely in the tech traditions, openly wink at IDM. Or how about the wild streak alias of Pub, Lucky & Easy? Not sure what you call them, but they are at least interesting. What of radical mashup outfits like Cassette Boy or things on Toast & Jam? Grime? Dubstep? Things on DMZ, etc. (there are a few labels, the names of which escape me right now, putting out less grimey, less dubstep oriented material that is closer to IDM - but as I'm not really into that stuff, I can't cough the names up easily). Not to suggest all of this is worthy fodder/this listy, but to suggest that some muddy idm tracks can be seen in their kitchens. IDM isn't dead - it's cross pollinating the way the way the ambient genre has (and this has generated similar 'purist' camps and arguments on the ambient list as well). Even so, there is still some je ne sais quoi which can be argued over - and yet still heard - that retains. Let the music go where it will and become what it may. Nobody can stop it anyway. All we do is argue about what label to put on it.

quoted 6 lines So, can we get constructive and suggest some exciting electronic music that

> So, can we get constructive and suggest some exciting electronic music that > isn't 'the standard IDM sound'? I'll open the bidding at Skream, Black Dice, > Exile and ?. > > David >

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