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[idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!

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2005-04-18 18:46ed c [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
├─ 2005-04-18 18:49Dennis DeSantis Re: [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
│ └─ 2005-04-18 19:31Josh Steiner Re: [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
└─ 2005-04-19 10:16carl morris plugtwo Re: [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
2005-04-18 19:17BMcB Re: [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
└─ 2005-04-18 20:54Josh String Re: [idm] Mark Prendergats shoud Speelchekc!!!!
└─ 2005-04-18 21:06michal urbanski Re: [idm] Mark Prendergats shoud Speelchekc!!!!
└─ 2005-04-19 01:19Anthony Cary Re: [idm] Mark Prendergats shoud Speelchekc!!!!
2005-04-18 19:23Martin Dust Re: [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
2005-04-19 11:00David Sim Re: [idm] Mark Prendergast should Die!!!
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2005-04-18 18:46ed cHas anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you haven't than don't. Most of it is extremely
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Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you haven't than don't. Most of it is extremely speculative pop crap. This is supposed to be a history of ambient and he devotes a portion of the book to Sonic Youth, the only problem is he only references to "Daydream Nation." Sonic Youth put out some great ambient minimalist music before this album but it is nowhere to be mentioned. He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers. He says the Dust Brothers met in 1989 but that is the year they put out the Beastie Boys album, "Pauls Boutique." He claims there first cd was in 1992. The only IDM artist he mentions is Aphex Twin and he claims that after the 2 SAW's he sold out to making other stuff. This book would be good if it was accurate and had more information on different music. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
2005-04-18 18:49Dennis DeSantised c wrote: > He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers. Can
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ed c wrote:
quoted 1 line He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers.> He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers.
Can't speak to the rest of the inaccuracies, but I think this part is actually true. They changed the name because of conflict with the other Dust Brothers. At least this is what the Chems themselves have stated in interviews. -- Dennis DeSantis www.dennisdesantis.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-04-18 19:31Josh SteinerDennis DeSantis wrote: > ed c wrote: > >> He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orrigi
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Dennis DeSantis wrote:
quoted 8 lines ed c wrote:> ed c wrote: > >> He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers. > > > Can't speak to the rest of the inaccuracies, but I think this part is > actually true. They changed the name because of conflict with the > other Dust Brothers.
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2005-04-19 10:16carl morris plugtwoEverything you might want from a book about ambient (and more!) can be found in Ocean Of S
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Everything you might want from a book about ambient (and more!) can be found in Ocean Of Sound by David Toop... Highly recommended. carl morris Plug Two t +442920190151 ed c wrote:
quoted 3 lines Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you haven't than don't. Most>Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you haven't than don't. Most of it is extremely speculative pop crap. This is supposed to be a history of ambient and he devotes a portion of the book to Sonic Youth, the only problem is he only references to "Daydream Nation." Sonic Youth put out some great ambient minimalist music before this album but it is nowhere to be mentioned. He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers. He says the Dust Brothers met in 1989 but that is the year they put out the Beastie Boys album, "Pauls Boutique." He claims there first cd was in 1992. The only IDM artist he mentions is Aphex Twin and he claims that after the 2 SAW's he sold out to making other stuff. This book would be good if it was accurate and had more information on different music. > >
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2005-04-18 19:17BMcBpresentation counts... --- ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote: > Has anyone read "The Ambien
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presentation counts... --- ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote:
quoted 2 lines Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you> Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you > haven't than don't.
THEN don't Most of it is extremely
quoted 4 lines speculative pop crap. This is supposed to be a> speculative pop crap. This is supposed to be a > history of ambient and he devotes a portion of the > book to Sonic Youth, the only problem is he only > references to "Daydream Nation."
REFERS to Sonic Youth put out
quoted 2 lines some great ambient minimalist music before this> some great ambient minimalist music before this > album but it is nowhere to be mentioned.
He mentions this nowhere. He claims
quoted 1 line that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally> that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally
originally the Dust
quoted 3 lines Brothers. He says the Dust Brothers met in 1989 but> Brothers. He says the Dust Brothers met in 1989 but > that is the year they put out the Beastie Boys > album, "Pauls Boutique." He claims there first cd
THEIR first cd
quoted 3 lines was in 1992. The only IDM artist he mentions is> was in 1992. The only IDM artist he mentions is > Aphex Twin and he claims that after the 2 SAW's he > sold out to making other stuff.
"sold out to making other stuff." ????? This book would be
quoted 7 lines good if it was accurate and had more information on> good if it was accurate and had more information on > different music. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
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2005-04-18 20:54Josh Stringkikc ass! someboddy finaly put a spelcheeker on the idm list!!! i'll forward all my essays
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kikc ass! someboddy finaly put a spelcheeker on the idm list!!! i'll forward all my essays ... this is to cool!!! your awesome BMcB xoxo johs!! BMcB wrote:
quoted 87 lines presentation counts...>presentation counts... > > >--- ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you >>haven't than don't. >> >> > >THEN don't > >Most of it is extremely > > >>speculative pop crap. This is supposed to be a >>history of ambient and he devotes a portion of the >>book to Sonic Youth, the only problem is he only >>references to "Daydream Nation." >> >> > >REFERS to > >Sonic Youth put out > > >>some great ambient minimalist music before this >>album but it is nowhere to be mentioned. >> >> > >He mentions this nowhere. > >He claims > > >>that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally >> >> > >originally > >the Dust > > >>Brothers. He says the Dust Brothers met in 1989 but >>that is the year they put out the Beastie Boys >>album, "Pauls Boutique." He claims there first cd >> >> > >THEIR first cd > > > >>was in 1992. The only IDM artist he mentions is >>Aphex Twin and he claims that after the 2 SAW's he >>sold out to making other stuff. >> >> > >"sold out to making other stuff." > >????? > >This book would be > > >>good if it was accurate and had more information on >>different music. >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Do you Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! >> >> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >
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2005-04-18 21:06michal urbanskiHa. Just wait until BMcB finds the gabber list. The lethal combination of ESL and drunk po
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Ha. Just wait until BMcB finds the gabber list. The lethal combination of ESL and drunk posters would make any grammerbot explode ;) <foomp> On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 03:54:46PM -0500, Josh String wrote:
quoted 102 lines kikc ass! someboddy finaly put a spelcheeker on the idm list!!!> kikc ass! someboddy finaly put a spelcheeker on the idm list!!! > > i'll forward all my essays ... this is to cool!!! > > your awesome BMcB > xoxo > > johs!! > > > > BMcB wrote: > > >presentation counts... > > > > > >--- ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > >>Has anyone read "The Ambient Century?" If you > >>haven't than don't. > >> > >> > > > >THEN don't > > > >Most of it is extremely > > > > > >>speculative pop crap. This is supposed to be a > >>history of ambient and he devotes a portion of the > >>book to Sonic Youth, the only problem is he only > >>references to "Daydream Nation." > >> > >> > > > >REFERS to > > > >Sonic Youth put out > > > > > >>some great ambient minimalist music before this > >>album but it is nowhere to be mentioned. > >> > >> > > > >He mentions this nowhere. > > > >He claims > > > > > >>that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally > >> > >> > > > >originally > > > >the Dust > > > > > >>Brothers. He says the Dust Brothers met in 1989 but > >>that is the year they put out the Beastie Boys > >>album, "Pauls Boutique." He claims there first cd > >> > >> > > > >THEIR first cd > > > > > > > >>was in 1992. The only IDM artist he mentions is > >>Aphex Twin and he claims that after the 2 SAW's he > >>sold out to making other stuff. > >> > >> > > > >"sold out to making other stuff." > > > >????? > > > >This book would be > > > > > >>good if it was accurate and had more information on > >>different music. > >> > >> > >>--------------------------------- > >>Do you Yahoo!? > >>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! > >> > >> > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > >
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2005-04-19 01:19Anthony CaryOh, the irony... On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:06 PM, michal urbanski wrote: > of ESL and drunk po
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Oh, the irony... On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:06 PM, michal urbanski wrote:
quoted 1 line of ESL and drunk posters would make any grammerbot explode ;)> of ESL and drunk posters would make any grammerbot explode ;)
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2005-04-18 19:23Martin DustThat is correct, they released a few things under that name before the sh1t hit the fan, i
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That is correct, they released a few things under that name before the sh1t hit the fan, including a cassette on the front of the NME... Martin Dust Dust Science Limited PO BOX 3542 Sheffield S8 9WU United Kingdom Label: http://www.dustscience.com Club: http://www.dustclub.com Shop: http://www.duststore.com Community: http://www.littledetroit.net tBd: http://www.dogsquad.co.uk Any negotiations made within this email do not form or offer any contractual agreements.
quoted 19 lines ed c wrote:> ed c wrote: >> He claims that the Chemical Brothers were orriginally the Dust Brothers. > > Can't speak to the rest of the inaccuracies, but I think this part is > actually true. They changed the name because of conflict with the other > Dust Brothers. > > At least this is what the Chems themselves have stated in interviews. > > -- > Dennis DeSantis > www.dennisdesantis.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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2005-04-19 11:00David Sim> Everything you might want from a book about ambient (and more!) can be > found in Ocean
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quoted 2 lines Everything you might want from a book about ambient (and more!) can be> Everything you might want from a book about ambient (and more!) can be > found in Ocean Of Sound by David Toop... Highly recommended.
I wouldn't have said that Ocean of Sound had everything about anything - it's a fantastic book that gives you totally new ways of looking at sound, but it's hardly a reference tome on ambient. Speaking of books... a) Has anyone read Visual Music: Synaesthesia in Art and Music Since 1900 by Olivia Mattis and is it any good? b) I know it's traditional to look down on it around here, but I read Energy Flash by Simon Reynolds (Generation Ecstacy in America) and thought it had some quite good bits in. It's basically a history of the UK rave scene with some other bits thrown in rather than an attempt to deal with the whole of electronic music, and it radically oversimplifies a lot of issues (especially regarding race and class) but there are some very interesting points, especially his observation that 'stupid' music often breaks more new ground than 'intelligent' or 'progressive' music - although his conclusion that any music that isn't purely dancefloor oriented is therefore tepid and uninteresting is a rather illogical jump. But yeah, it's certainly not as pointless as some descriptions on this list have implied, and even if you disagree with bits of it, you're at least forced to think hard about why you disagree. David This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org