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2005-02-12 18:24Info Intervall-audio [idm] Electronic Music Reading
└─ 2005-02-14 21:04Ed Colmar Re: [idm] Electronic Music Reading
2005-02-13 07:35rickreaction [idm] Electronic Music Reading
├─ 2005-02-13 07:49dj fishead RE: [idm] Electronic Music Reading
└─ 2005-02-13 18:45Luis-Manuel Garcia Re: [idm] Electronic Music Reading
└─ 2005-02-13 21:28ed c Re: [idm] Electronic Music Reading
└─ 2005-02-13 22:05Luis-Manuel Garcia Re: [idm] Electronic Music Reading
└─ 2005-02-13 22:32Simon Kong Re: [idm] Electronic Music Reading & Films
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2005-02-12 18:24Info Intervall-audioHello, maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to read (print and
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Hello, maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to read (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light on the phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, beyond the terms of likings and dislikings. Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and 'educated' electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from online articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even academic papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and understanding of electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, psychology, audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and trends in music journalism and academic research. Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe even more challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable reactions in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And does electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon of so-called "electronic music." Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. (Stan) www.intervall-audio.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-14 21:04Ed ColmarThis isn't neccesarily IDM oriented persay, but a lot of IDM artists use similar technique
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This isn't neccesarily IDM oriented persay, but a lot of IDM artists use similar techniques. Its a great book for technically minded musicians, and lovers of electronic music. *Microsound* by Curtis Roads <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-url/index=books&field-author=Curtis%20Roads/103-9468243-3995850> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262681544/qid=1108414933/sr=2-1/ref=pd_ka_b_2_1/103-9468243-3995850 Below the level of the musical note lies the realm of microsound, of sound particles lasting less than one-tenth of a second. Recent technological advances allow us to probe and manipulate these pinpoints of sound, dissolving the traditional building blocks of music -- notes and their intervals -- into a more fluid and supple medium. The sensations of point, pulse (series of points), line (tone), and surface (texture) emerge as particle density increases. Sounds coalesce, evaporate, and mutate into other sounds. Composers have used theories of microsound in computer music since the 1950s. Distinguished practitioners include Karlheinz Stockhausen and Iannis Xenakis. Today, with the increased interest in computer and electronic music, many young composers and software synthesis developers are exploring its advantages. Covering all aspects of composition with sound particles, /Microsound/ offers composition theory, historical accounts, technical overviews, acoustical experiments, descriptions of musical works, and aesthetic reflections. The book is accompanied by an audio CD of examples. Ed Colmar Time Slips By www.timeslipsby.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-13 07:35rickreactionI'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for myself, the best books o
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I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for myself, the best books or articles or online resources or student papers or other would deal with the history of electronic music. On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:55 +0100, Info Intervall-audio <info@intervall-audio.com> wrote:
quoted 39 lines Hello,> Hello, > > maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to read > (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light on the > phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, beyond the > terms of likings and dislikings. > > Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and 'educated' > electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from online > articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper > features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even academic > papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and understanding of > electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, psychology, > audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and trends in > music journalism and academic research. > > Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: > > How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we > understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe even more > challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and > processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable reactions > in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And does > electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. > > In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon of > so-called "electronic music." > > Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. > > (Stan) > > www.intervall-audio.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2005-02-13 07:49dj fisheadalways liked this one... ele_mental have been one of the coolest crews out there... http:/
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2005-02-13 18:45Luis-Manuel GarciaHere's a few: Shapiro, Peter, ed. 2000. Modulations : Throbbing Words on Sound : A History
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Here's a few: Shapiro, Peter, ed. 2000. Modulations : Throbbing Words on Sound : A History of Electronic Music. New York: Caipirinha Productions. [one of the best written sources at this moment] Ishkur. 2004. Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music 2004. http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html (accessed Apr 1 2004). [surprisingly useful!] Feige, Marcel. 2000. Deep in Techno: die ganze Geschichte des Movements. Berlin: Schwarzkopf & Schwarzkopf. [If you can read German, an interesting recounting of electronic music (all genres) from a European perspective] Reynolds, Simon. 1998. Generation ecstasy: into the world of techno and rave culture. Boston: Little, Brown. [I have so many problems with this book, but it's still an important source, if only for its collection of quotes and anecdotes from important figures] _____. 2003. Intelligent Dance Music, January 22 2003. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music (accessed April 7 2003). [Part of the Wikipedia project, interesting because it's team-edited.] I've got *tons* more, but I think this should keep ya busy. Luis On Feb 13, 2005, at 1:35 AM, rickreaction wrote:
quoted 61 lines I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for> I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for > myself, the best books or articles or online resources or student > papers or other would deal with the history of electronic music. > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:55 +0100, Info Intervall-audio > <info@intervall-audio.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to >> read >> (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light >> on the >> phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, >> beyond the >> terms of likings and dislikings. >> >> Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and >> 'educated' >> electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from >> online >> articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper >> features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even >> academic >> papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and >> understanding of >> electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, psychology, >> audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and >> trends in >> music journalism and academic research. >> >> Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: >> >> How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we >> understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe >> even more >> challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and >> processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable >> reactions >> in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And >> does >> electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. >> >> In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon of >> so-called "electronic music." >> >> Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. >> >> (Stan) >> >> www.intervall-audio.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2005-02-13 21:28ed cDO NOT BUY THIS, this book is all opinion and no substance. Generation Extasy is so much b
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DO NOT BUY THIS, this book is all opinion and no substance. Generation Extasy is so much better and it follows basically the same idea. Though the interviews are pretty cool------> Shapiro, Peter, ed. 2000. Modulations : Throbbing Words on Sound : A History of Electronic Music. New York: Caipirinha Productions. [one of the best written sources at this moment] also electronic music pioneers is very informative on the beggining of the history. Ishkur. 2004. Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music 2004. http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html (accessed Apr 1 2004). [surprisingly useful!] Feige, Marcel. 2000. Deep in Techno: die ganze Geschichte des Movements. Berlin: Schwarzkopf & Schwarzkopf. [If you can read German, an interesting recounting of electronic music (all genres) from a European perspective] Reynolds, Simon. 1998. Generation ecstasy: into the world of techno and rave culture. Boston: Little, Brown. [I have so many problems with this book, but it's still an important source, if only for its collection of quotes and anecdotes from important figures] _____. 2003. Intelligent Dance Music, January 22 2003. http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music (accessed April 7 2003). [Part of the Wikipedia project, interesting because it's team-edited.] I've got *tons* more, but I think this should keep ya busy. Luis On Feb 13, 2005, at 1:35 AM, rickreaction wrote:
quoted 61 lines I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for> I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for > myself, the best books or articles or online resources or student > papers or other would deal with the history of electronic music. > > > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:55 +0100, Info Intervall-audio > wrote: >> Hello, >> >> maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to >> read >> (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light >> on the >> phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, >> beyond the >> terms of likings and dislikings. >> >> Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and >> 'educated' >> electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from >> online >> articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper >> features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even >> academic >> papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and >> understanding of >> electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, psychology, >> audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and >> trends in >> music journalism and academic research. >> >> Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: >> >> How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we >> understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe >> even more >> challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and >> processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable >> reactions >> in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And >> does >> electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. >> >> In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon of >> so-called "electronic music." >> >> Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. >> >> (Stan) >> >> www.intervall-audio.com >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2005-02-13 22:05Luis-Manuel GarciaAll sources on Electronic Music have heavy doses of opinion, partially because the "offici
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All sources on Electronic Music have heavy doses of opinion, partially because the "official" history of EDM/IDM is still up for grabs. Shapiro's "Modulations" has a lot of subjective statements, but I'd say that Generation Ecstasy (and Energy Flash, which was a slightly different UK edition) has a deep bias that slants the entire book. Also, some of the essentialisms that Reynolds makes about race and House (and Techno) are a bit simplistic. The lesson here is that no book on EDM/IDM is completely unbiased and "factual": they're all writing history in a very literal way. Luis On Feb 13, 2005, at 3:28 PM, ed c wrote:
quoted 109 lines DO NOT BUY THIS, this book is all opinion and no substance. Generation> > > DO NOT BUY THIS, this book is all opinion and no substance. Generation > Extasy is so much better and it follows basically the same idea. > Though the interviews are pretty cool------> > Shapiro, Peter, ed. 2000. Modulations : Throbbing Words on Sound : A > History of Electronic Music. New York: Caipirinha Productions. [one of > the best written sources at this moment] > > > also electronic music pioneers is very informative on the beggining of > the history. > > > Ishkur. 2004. Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music 2004. > http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html (accessed Apr 1 2004). > [surprisingly useful!] > > Feige, Marcel. 2000. Deep in Techno: die ganze Geschichte des > Movements. Berlin: Schwarzkopf & Schwarzkopf. [If you can read German, > an interesting recounting of electronic music (all genres) from a > European perspective] > > Reynolds, Simon. 1998. Generation ecstasy: into the world of techno and > rave culture. Boston: Little, Brown. [I have so many problems with this > book, but it's still an important source, if only for its collection of > quotes and anecdotes from important figures] > > _____. 2003. Intelligent Dance Music, January 22 2003. > http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music (accessed April 7 > 2003). [Part of the Wikipedia project, interesting because it's > team-edited.] > > I've got *tons* more, but I think this should keep ya busy. > > Luis > > On Feb 13, 2005, at 1:35 AM, rickreaction wrote: > >> I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for >> myself, the best books or articles or online resources or student >> papers or other would deal with the history of electronic music. >> >> >> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:55 +0100, Info Intervall-audio >> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to >>> read >>> (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light >>> on the >>> phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, >>> beyond the >>> terms of likings and dislikings. >>> >>> Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and >>> 'educated' >>> electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from >>> online >>> articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper >>> features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even >>> academic >>> papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and >>> understanding of >>> electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, >>> psychology, >>> audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and >>> trends in >>> music journalism and academic research. >>> >>> Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: >>> >>> How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we >>> understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe >>> even more >>> challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and >>> processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable >>> reactions >>> in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And >>> does >>> electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. >>> >>> In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon >>> of >>> so-called "electronic music." >>> >>> Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. >>> >>> (Stan) >>> >>> www.intervall-audio.com >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less.
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2005-02-13 22:32Simon KongOne thing I have discoverd in reading about Electronic Music History is the vast diversity
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One thing I have discoverd in reading about Electronic Music History is the vast diversity and perspectives that are available. The global growth of the scene was so rapid, and so local that it's hard for one person to get a real grip on whats going on. In New Zealand we now have several documentarys made about the Gathering, a dance festival that ran from 1994 - 2002. This is the greatest published body of work on the NZ dance scene, but it is by no means deffinative. There is also a crew still in the process of trying to make a film about the NZ dance scene. http://www.loopsandsamples.co.nz/ When I read through the list of people that are included to date, it doesn't even cover half the people I would expect. http://www.loopsandsamples.co.nz/artists.html The efforts they are making are outstanding, but from my perspective they will be discussing only half the dance scene in NZ, and missing some of the crucial links that have created large sections of the scene in this country. The website I work for has been cover NZ dance music for over ten years. While our reach is more extended today, as you dig back in time it becomes a sliver out of the pie of experience available in NZ. Part of the challenge I think is a strong desire by some to not be counted in the pages of anything, due to a underground mentality. Popular culture has also has a influence on what is recognized as significant, as opposed to what is culturally important to the music and the growth of the scene. Please note in all these comments about NZ . we are only 3 million people in a small island country that takes two days to drive around. The history of our culture is still up for grabs, I mean on the scale of it all this discussion is highly significant. And I don't think you can get much more IDM than that!! .simon Luis-Manuel Garcia wrote:
quoted 103 lines All sources on Electronic Music have heavy doses of opinion, partially> All sources on Electronic Music have heavy doses of opinion, partially > because the "official" history of EDM/IDM is still up for grabs. > Shapiro's "Modulations" has a lot of subjective statements, but I'd say > that Generation Ecstasy (and Energy Flash, which was a slightly > different UK edition) has a deep bias that slants the entire book. > Also, some of the essentialisms that Reynolds makes about race and House > (and Techno) are a bit simplistic. The lesson here is that no book on > EDM/IDM is completely unbiased and "factual": they're all writing > history in a very literal way. > > Luis > > On Feb 13, 2005, at 3:28 PM, ed c wrote: > >> >> >> DO NOT BUY THIS, this book is all opinion and no substance. Generation >> Extasy is so much better and it follows basically the same idea. >> Though the interviews are pretty cool------> >> Shapiro, Peter, ed. 2000. Modulations : Throbbing Words on Sound : A >> History of Electronic Music. New York: Caipirinha Productions. [one of >> the best written sources at this moment] >> >> >> also electronic music pioneers is very informative on the beggining of >> the history. >> >> >> Ishkur. 2004. Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music 2004. >> http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html (accessed Apr 1 2004). >> [surprisingly useful!] >> >> Feige, Marcel. 2000. Deep in Techno: die ganze Geschichte des >> Movements. Berlin: Schwarzkopf & Schwarzkopf. [If you can read German, >> an interesting recounting of electronic music (all genres) from a >> European perspective] >> >> Reynolds, Simon. 1998. Generation ecstasy: into the world of techno and >> rave culture. Boston: Little, Brown. [I have so many problems with this >> book, but it's still an important source, if only for its collection of >> quotes and anecdotes from important figures] >> >> _____. 2003. Intelligent Dance Music, January 22 2003. >> http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music (accessed April 7 >> 2003). [Part of the Wikipedia project, interesting because it's >> team-edited.] >> >> I've got *tons* more, but I think this should keep ya busy. >> >> Luis >> >> On Feb 13, 2005, at 1:35 AM, rickreaction wrote: >> >>> I'm also very interested in this - I'd just like to add that, for >>> myself, the best books or articles or online resources or student >>> papers or other would deal with the history of electronic music. >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:24:55 +0100, Info Intervall-audio >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> maybe this is a bit off-topic, but could anyone recommend stuff to >>>> read >>>> (print and web) on electronic music? Just anything that sheds light >>>> on the >>>> phenomenon of so-called "electronic music," whatever that may be, >>>> beyond the >>>> terms of likings and dislikings. >>>> >>>> Personally, don't make much of a distiction between popular and >>>> 'educated' >>>> electronic music. But of interest would be anything ranging from >>>> online >>>> articles, web site galleries and e-books for download, to newspaper >>>> features, interviews, recommendations on must-read books and even >>>> academic >>>> papers, all adressing the nature, history, aesthetics and >>>> understanding of >>>> electronic music, be it in terms of sociology, philosophy, psychology, >>>> audiology or in terms of club culture, youth culture, fashion and >>>> trends in >>>> music journalism and academic research. >>>> >>>> Wow, this sounds heavy. But basically it is about questions such as: >>>> >>>> How does music actually work and what does music do to us? How do we >>>> understand and "read" music? Why do we listen to music and, maybe >>>> even more >>>> challenging, why do we actually make it? How is music perceived and >>>> processed by the brain? Does music instigate any direct measurable >>>> reactions >>>> in the body? Does electronic music play a role in gender studies? And >>>> does >>>> electronic music change our culture? etc.etc. >>>> >>>> In short, simply anything of inquisitive nature into the phenomenon of >>>> so-called "electronic music." >>>> >>>> Anyways, many questions and a lot to discover. >>>> >>>> (Stan)
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