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just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is better than the richard d. james album. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

I agree - this is a very nice pair of songs. Way more involved and interesting than analord 1 & 2 (which sound like really good Bochum Welt tracks) on 2/2/05 9:55 AM, ed c at echurch86@yahoo.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come

> just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come > to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is > better than the richard d. james album.

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yeah, this one in particular is Teh Phatness ed c wrote:

quoted 8 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but

>just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is better than the richard d. james album. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > >

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i wouldn't talk much... i just have to say i'm completely overwhelmed by the 3 analords that came out so far... they represent absolutely everything i love in electronic music. i'm surprised nobody mentioned 'ammnesia' so far, especaially because the track title indicates to that... massive respect to afx peace miro --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he releases something, it just sounds like the future. I dont even think of him as "IDM", just seems so petty. Ya Know? R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

No, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 2 lines So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot.

> So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. >

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it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder either musically or just with sound. Devo might have not been that great back in the 80's but if you listen to there synth programming it was incredible for the time. They put in the extra time and made some incredible synth solo's, i would call that IDM. But than again, i would also call the talking heads song "born under punches" IDM. It was the avant garde for the time. I would never call SAW 1 and 2 IDM cause now it just sounds like ambient dance but for its time it was IDM so that is my justification. Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: No, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 2 lines So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot.

> So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. >

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does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it better than "IDM". On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:09:11 -0800 (PST), ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder eithe

> it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder either musically or just with sound. Devo might have not been that great back in the 80's but if you listen to there synth programming it was incredible for the time. They put in the extra time and made some incredible synth solo's, i would call that IDM. But than again, i would also call the talking heads song "born under punches" IDM. It was the avant garde for the time. > > I would never call SAW 1 and 2 IDM cause now it just sounds like ambient dance but for its time it was IDM so that is my justification. > > Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: > No, but IDM are Devo. > > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > > > So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' >

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 5 lines does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music?

> does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > better than "IDM".

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problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 16 lines On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: > > > does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > > better than "IDM". > > The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you > simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an > exaggerated eye-roll... > > -- > > - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >

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I generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to the person I'm talking to to make assumptions about what that means, or to inquire more about what specifically I like. They either pigeon-hole me in their mind, or ask me what I mean, and then we progress to specific artists and albums, and the history of the genre/email list. This is, I believe, really the only good way to talk about music: by specific example of the people and releases involved, and what little history/stories there are about the people making it. "IDM" is too specific and/or meaningless at term to serve as a jumping-off point, as far as I'm concerned. -Adam Piontek damek.org Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 26 lines problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the

> problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the > indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. > > ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson > <eric@explosive.net> wrote: > >>On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: >> >> >>>does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? >>>even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed >>>to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually >>>just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it >>>better than "IDM". >> >>The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you >>simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an >>exaggerated eye-roll... >> >>-- >> >> - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >> >

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I usually just refer to it as the kind of electronic music that would make you look like a jack ass for dancing to it. Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 5 lines does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music?

> does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > better than "IDM".

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Whenever I say the "IDM", no one knows what I'm talking about, and the Geeks(you know who you are) just snicker and laugh, and call me old man. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Ah Adam - good answer :-) Within the last year I picked up Devo's Greatest Hits & companion Greatest Misses at a market stall, which brought back their brilliance with a rush. "Through Being Cool"... brilliant stuff. I have no idea how people would react to their sound now who have never heard them before, though? It's different having memories brought back if you remember them from their heyday, but if you weren't around at that time and come to it fresh now - how does it sound? I * On 8 Feb 2005 at 21:46, Adam Piontek wrote:

quoted 6 lines No, but IDM are Devo.

> No, but IDM are Devo. > > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > > > So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. > >

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r j is completely overrated... the world is a bigger place than warp records... g. Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 16 lines Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he

> Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he > releases something, it just sounds like the future. > I dont even think of him as "IDM", just seems so > petty. Ya Know? > > R. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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what do people know/feel about these mysterious tracks? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

they're not that good as the new stuff? (and with new stuff I mean everything except geogaddi which only has a few good tracks IMHO) On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:14:07 -0800 (PST), karl poechlauer <karljpoechlauer@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines what do people know/feel about these mysterious

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no reason to put an artist down if you don't like him or her. to each his own. the world is too big a place to worry about what other people you don't like are doing. ps - i <3 warp On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:15:44 -0500, graham miller <grahammiller@sympatico.ca> wrote:

quoted 29 lines r j is completely overrated... the world is a bigger place than warp

> r j is completely overrated... the world is a bigger place than warp > records... > > g. > > Robert Freeman wrote: > > > Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he > > releases something, it just sounds like the future. > > I dont even think of him as "IDM", just seems so > > petty. Ya Know? > > > > R. > > > > > > __________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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you miss my point. i think aphex is great... i have a ton of his stuff... i just think the worshipping thing is unhealthy, at best. there is so much great music out there, it would be unfortunate for someone, especially a young personl, to think the world begins and ends with him... it's like the standard rite of passage all music lovers go through, be it rock (hendrix) or jazz or orchestral or whatever... there is this perceived notion of a 'canon'... and aphex is part of it, no doubt... but that said, he's one of a hundred brilliant electronic musicians... he's just a master at marketing, which sets him apart, absolutely... i just find the warp-centric-ness of this list a little reminiscent of my own high school obsessiveness and adamance over what i considered 'great' music... if only i could back in time and shake some sense into myself... g. Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 46 lines no reason to put an artist down if you don't like him or her. to each his own.

> no reason to put an artist down if you don't like him or her. to each his own. > > the world is too big a place to worry about what other people you > don't like are doing. > > ps - i <3 warp > > On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 22:15:44 -0500, graham miller > <grahammiller@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > r j is completely overrated... the world is a bigger place than warp > > records... > > > > g. > > > > Robert Freeman wrote: > > > > > Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he > > > releases something, it just sounds like the future. > > > I dont even think of him as "IDM", just seems so > > > petty. Ya Know? > > > > > > R. > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jason Clark > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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Actually dude - the Analord series was released on Rephlex so nevermind warp-centric-ness. You wanna pick a bone try Skam. Those fuckers own the game. How many of you scored their latest super limited sold-out-the-day-it-was-released cd? Warp has released a shit-ton of great music in the past couple years not to mention the past decade. For those outside the confines of our limited IDM distribution circle, Warp would be the first and most easily accesible label to get introduced to experimental electronic music. I say thank god for Warp, great marketing, great artists, and great exposure! With that said - the recent Staticbeats webcast update that I just posted with 100 albums contains all of 7 Warp releases so I agree that Aphex is only one of a hundred brilliant electronic musicians. chowza! Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music > Digital Culture --- graham miller <grahammiller@sympatico.ca> wrote:

quoted 30 lines you miss my point.

> you miss my point. > > i think aphex is great... i have a ton of his > stuff... i just think the > worshipping thing is unhealthy, at best. there is > so much great music out there, > it would be unfortunate for someone, especially a > young personl, to think the > world begins and ends with him... it's like the > standard rite of passage all > music lovers go through, be it rock (hendrix) or > jazz or orchestral or > whatever... there is this perceived notion of a > 'canon'... and aphex is part of > it, no doubt... > > but that said, he's one of a hundred brilliant > electronic musicians... he's just > a master at marketing, which sets him apart, > absolutely... > > i just find the warp-centric-ness of this list a > little reminiscent of my own > high school obsessiveness and adamance over what i > considered 'great' music... if > only i could back in time and shake some sense into > myself... > > > g.

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If you're referring to the Skam Cats CD, that was available in the Skam Shop and on Warpmart for at least a week after it was released. Neil On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:51:57 -0800 (PST), StaticBeats <stupidnametaken@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 65 lines Actually dude - the Analord series was released on

> Actually dude - the Analord series was released on > Rephlex so nevermind warp-centric-ness. You wanna pick > a bone try Skam. Those fuckers own the game. How many > of you scored their latest super limited > sold-out-the-day-it-was-released cd? > > Warp has released a shit-ton of great music in the > past couple years not to mention the past decade. > > For those outside the confines of our limited IDM > distribution circle, Warp would be the first and most > easily accesible label to get introduced to > experimental electronic music. I say thank god for > Warp, great marketing, great artists, and great > exposure! > > With that said - the recent Staticbeats webcast update > that I just posted with 100 albums contains all of 7 > Warp releases so I agree that Aphex is only one of a > hundred brilliant electronic musicians. > > chowza! > > Shimone/Justes > http://www.staticbeats.com > Electronic Music > Digital Culture > > --- graham miller <grahammiller@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > you miss my point. > > > > i think aphex is great... i have a ton of his > > stuff... i just think the > > worshipping thing is unhealthy, at best. there is > > so much great music out there, > > it would be unfortunate for someone, especially a > > young personl, to think the > > world begins and ends with him... it's like the > > standard rite of passage all > > music lovers go through, be it rock (hendrix) or > > jazz or orchestral or > > whatever... there is this perceived notion of a > > 'canon'... and aphex is part of > > it, no doubt... > > > > but that said, he's one of a hundred brilliant > > electronic musicians... he's just > > a master at marketing, which sets him apart, > > absolutely... > > > > i just find the warp-centric-ness of this list a > > little reminiscent of my own > > high school obsessiveness and adamance over what i > > considered 'great' music... if > > only i could back in time and shake some sense into > > myself... > > > > > > g. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Hmm... how come no one mentioned this when the list was asking if it was sold out and where one could get a copy? Even mister mextaplex mentioned it was sold out ! It's cool though... just leaves more room in my SMAK cd wallet. Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music > Digital Culture --- Neil Walsh <walsh.neil@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 6 lines If you're referring to the Skam Cats CD, that was

> If you're referring to the Skam Cats CD, that was > available in the > Skam Shop and on Warpmart for at least a week after > it was released. > > Neil

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