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My first 40G iPod is full. My second is is up to about 25G and I expect to max that one out as well. I'll be travelling for the next year or so and not being able to take my 600 or so cds with me, I cannot understate how valuable these two little monsters will be to me. And I am neither a teenager or a girl.

quoted 1 line its funny how useless an ipod is to the average consumer. Yet teenage girls think they are

>its funny how useless an ipod is to the average consumer. Yet teenage girls think they are cute so somehow they have gotten >big just for that reason. not many people have 5 thousand songs on their computer anyway.

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:51 -0600, Albers, Brian <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> wrote:

quoted 6 lines My first 40G iPod is full. My second is is up to about 25G and I expect to max that one

> > My first 40G iPod is full. My second is is up to about 25G and I expect to max that one > out as well. I'll be travelling for the next year or so and not being able to take my 600 or > so cds with me, I cannot understate how valuable these two little monsters will be to > me. And I am neither a teenager or a girl. >

Perhaps a girlyman, yes? I think the only thing that bothers me about those little thingers that hold a bajillion tracks is that the failure mode is so extreme. 1950 -- you scratch your record you hear a little click. You gouge the crap out of it, and one song doesn't play, the rest still do. You crack the record, you can still play the songs that aren't cracked. 1983 - you scratch your cd, it starts sounding like Oval. You scratch it too much, it's unplayable. 2004 - you drop your ipod, and it comes up SadMac, and 5000 songs are gone - poof. Sure you've got those files at home, but you're in Botswana and the only music available is bad South African pop* and guys beating on logs** As storage capacity has gone up, what you lose when something goes wrong gets bigger. * I don't know anything about South African pop music, Irene, but generally where there's pop music, there's bad pop music. **guys beating on logs can be super cool: http://tinyurl.com/5yfyf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Jan 30, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Kent Williams wrote:

quoted 29 lines On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:51 -0600, Albers, Brian

> On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:51 -0600, Albers, Brian > <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> wrote: >> >> My first 40G iPod is full. My second is is up to about 25G and I >> expect to max that one >> out as well. I'll be travelling for the next year or so and not being >> able to take my 600 or >> so cds with me, I cannot understate how valuable these two little >> monsters will be to >> me. And I am neither a teenager or a girl. >> > > Perhaps a girlyman, yes? > > I think the only thing that bothers me about those little thingers > that hold a bajillion tracks is that the failure mode is so extreme. > > 1950 -- you scratch your record you hear a little click. You gouge the > crap out of it, and one song doesn't play, the rest still do. You > crack the record, you can still play the songs that aren't cracked. > > 1983 - you scratch your cd, it starts sounding like Oval. You scratch > it too much, it's unplayable. > > 2004 - you drop your ipod, and it comes up SadMac, and 5000 songs are > gone - poof. Sure you've got those files at home, but you're in > Botswana and the only music available is bad South African pop* and > guys beating on logs** >

Surely the home computer and maybe even a couple of extra backup disks are more portable than a turntable and record collection. You have kind of a point, but the fact that you can so easily make copies of your entire collection now more than compensates. Sure, if I gouge one of my records I can play the other side and all of my other records, but maybe the one that I gouged was my favorite rare, out-of-print track and I can't find another copy for less than the price of an iPod :-) -- Tim Moore --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines 2004 - you drop your ipod, and it comes up SadMac, and 5000 songs are

> > 2004 - you drop your ipod, and it comes up SadMac, and 5000 songs are > gone - poof. Sure you've got those files at home, but you're in > Botswana and the only music available is bad South African pop* and > guys beating on logs** >

and you take out the mini-HD drive to & buy a used ipod from a guy in Sengal, Capetown, or Kenya or really any of the metropolises that spot Africa these days. You then proceed to buy tons and tons of afro-beat and pop music never released outside of Africa and sell it to Damon Albaron for millions =) one annoying thing is that the mini-hd formats aren't standardized, hence you can't take an ipod hd pop it into one of those new sony hd-players and keep rocking. it's really annoying. give it all a few years though and we'll have removable mini-hds instead of cds and they'll come with video games, and web site codes, and all sorts of wonderful things, and maybe (if we're lucky) they'll come bundled in free t-shirts. Peace, A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hi Kent

quoted 2 lines * I don't know anything about South African pop music, Irene, but

> * I don't know anything about South African pop music, Irene, but > generally where there's pop music, there's bad pop music.

You're SO right :-) As I read your mail and came across the first asterisk, I automatically assumed you'd have a footnote there for me - thank you! At the moment I'm on my first magical listen-through of Bola's Gnayse which arrived here today via a very circumlocuitious route (is that a word? it sounds busy enough to get across my general meaning). My neighbour's nephew is here from England to do a one-month dentistry work-experience thingy and I jumped in with a plea for him to bring this along (never met him before). After much to and fro (I think they're strictly Celine Dion people) they managed to locate it and Sister Ray's sent it to them by mail before their departure and they arrived in Cape Town Sunday morning. I'm happy to say it was a good choice and I'm enjoying it enormously. Thanks to ALL who assisted me with my London music shop query. I've already ripped it to my MP3 player (a miserable little 128 meg affair that holds one album at a time at 192 VBR... so stop showing off about your iPod's, right?!) I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I too would be worried about wiping out my music collection, if I had transferred it all to iPod and got rid of the originals. I have heard of people who have done the latter and I'm just waiting til they do the former (i.e. drop the iPod!) :-S I couldn't countenance that risk! However, one big question I have is this: I'm 39 - I have a lifetime's worth of casually (i.e. non-obssessively) bought vinyl and CDs - thousands of each in fact. But... for me to convert it all to MP3 would surely take me the rest of my natural life!!! So what I want to know is how are all you iPod-owning, £200-to-blow-on-Mac's-latest-pretty-little-gimmick boys and girls converting your record collections? Are you living off inheritances and thus have 100% free-time, or are you getting your wives and servants to do it for you?!? ;o) But really - how??? I'm fascinated!!! Clive Card-carrying member of "the Lottery classes" and proud!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Moore" <Timothy@Moore.name> To: "Kent Williams" <chaircrusher@gmail.com> Cc: "ed c" <echurch86@yahoo.com>; "Indigo Danelions Merrygolds" <idm@hyperreal.org>; "Albers, Brian" <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 1:29 AM Subject: Re: [idm] ipod

quoted 50 lines On Jan 30, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Kent Williams wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Kent Williams wrote: > > > On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:28:51 -0600, Albers, Brian > > <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> wrote: > >> > >> My first 40G iPod is full. My second is is up to about 25G and I > >> expect to max that one > >> out as well. I'll be travelling for the next year or so and not being > >> able to take my 600 or > >> so cds with me, I cannot understate how valuable these two little > >> monsters will be to > >> me. And I am neither a teenager or a girl. > >> > > > > Perhaps a girlyman, yes? > > > > I think the only thing that bothers me about those little thingers > > that hold a bajillion tracks is that the failure mode is so extreme. > > > > 1950 -- you scratch your record you hear a little click. You gouge the > > crap out of it, and one song doesn't play, the rest still do. You > > crack the record, you can still play the songs that aren't cracked. > > > > 1983 - you scratch your cd, it starts sounding like Oval. You scratch > > it too much, it's unplayable. > > > > 2004 - you drop your ipod, and it comes up SadMac, and 5000 songs are > > gone - poof. Sure you've got those files at home, but you're in > > Botswana and the only music available is bad South African pop* and > > guys beating on logs** > > > > Surely the home computer and maybe even a couple of extra backup disks > are more portable than a turntable and record collection. > > You have kind of a point, but the fact that you can so easily make > copies of your entire collection now more than compensates. Sure, if I > gouge one of my records I can play the other side and all of my other > records, but maybe the one that I gouged was my favorite rare, > out-of-print track and I can't find another copy for less than the > price of an iPod :-) > -- > Tim Moore > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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On Jan 30, 2005, at 9:27 PM, clive-harris wrote:

quoted 25 lines I too would be worried about wiping out my music collection, if I had

> I too would be worried about wiping out my music collection, if I had > transferred it all to iPod and got rid of the originals. I have heard > of > people who have done the latter and I'm just waiting til they do the > former > (i.e. drop the iPod!) :-S I couldn't countenance that risk! > > However, one big question I have is this: I'm 39 - I have a lifetime's > worth > of casually (i.e. non-obssessively) bought vinyl and CDs - thousands > of each > in fact. But... for me to convert it all to MP3 would surely take me > the > rest of my natural life!!! So what I want to know is how are all you > iPod-owning, £200-to-blow-on-Mac's-latest-pretty-little-gimmick boys > and > girls converting your record collections? Are you living off > inheritances > and thus have 100% free-time, or are you getting your wives and > servants to > do it for you?!? > > ;o) > > But really - how??? I'm fascinated!!!

So far I've only done CDs, no vinyl, and mostly new stuff soon after I buy it, or my favorite older CDs as I get around to it. It only takes a few minutes per CD, and it's not like you have to interact with it as it goes. Most of it I did by bringing my laptop and a stack of a few CDs to work each day, and popping in CDs to rip at various breaks in my work. Lately I haven't been keeping up as well, I'll admit, but it's not really as time consuming as you make it sound. -- Tim Moore --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

yeah same for me. when I moved to UK from Australia I couldn't bring my collection, so each night before I left I ripped cds to itunes on an external drive - only got half done and none of the vinyl but it's better than nothing, and with the new job requiring a lot of travel, it's good to be able to take my collection with me. I bought an extra external drive for my sister to rip to as she listens as she is now the proud caretaker of my collection - hopefully one day I'll be sent the extra drive with the rest of the collection. it doesn't take the time it takes to listen to the cd to rip it, so is quite quick really.I still have room for new music which I've been buying and can send the originals back to sydney for safekeeping (as I move around a lot thesedays). Kath

quoted 11 lines So far I've only done CDs, no vinyl, and mostly new stuff soon after I

> > So far I've only done CDs, no vinyl, and mostly new stuff soon after I > buy it, or my favorite older CDs as I get around to it. It only takes a > few minutes per CD, and it's not like you have to interact with it as > it goes. Most of it I did by bringing my laptop and a stack of a few > CDs to work each day, and popping in CDs to rip at various breaks in my > work. Lately I haven't been keeping up as well, I'll admit, but it's > not really as time consuming as you make it sound. > -- > Tim Moore >

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imic, down and dirty usb to RCA connector. table's rca into imic into sound recording program (forget which one). fuck entire album, get the songs you want and go. peace, a On Jan 30, 2005, at 9:36 PM, Tim Moore wrote:

quoted 45 lines On Jan 30, 2005, at 9:27 PM, clive-harris wrote:

> > On Jan 30, 2005, at 9:27 PM, clive-harris wrote: > >> I too would be worried about wiping out my music collection, if I had >> transferred it all to iPod and got rid of the originals. I have >> heard of >> people who have done the latter and I'm just waiting til they do the >> former >> (i.e. drop the iPod!) :-S I couldn't countenance that risk! >> >> However, one big question I have is this: I'm 39 - I have a >> lifetime's worth >> of casually (i.e. non-obssessively) bought vinyl and CDs - thousands >> of each >> in fact. But... for me to convert it all to MP3 would surely take me >> the >> rest of my natural life!!! So what I want to know is how are all you >> iPod-owning, £200-to-blow-on-Mac's-latest-pretty-little-gimmick boys >> and >> girls converting your record collections? Are you living off >> inheritances >> and thus have 100% free-time, or are you getting your wives and >> servants to >> do it for you?!? >> >> ;o) >> >> But really - how??? I'm fascinated!!! > > So far I've only done CDs, no vinyl, and mostly new stuff soon after I > buy it, or my favorite older CDs as I get around to it. It only takes > a few minutes per CD, and it's not like you have to interact with it > as it goes. Most of it I did by bringing my laptop and a stack of a > few CDs to work each day, and popping in CDs to rip at various breaks > in my work. Lately I haven't been keeping up as well, I'll admit, but > it's not really as time consuming as you make it sound. > -- > Tim Moore > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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