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2003-08-29 14:25visa [idm] getting started with DJ:ing
├─ 2003-08-29 14:46David Whewell Re: [idm] getting started with DJ:ing
│ └─ 2003-08-29 15:22[idm] Cds / Vinyl
│ └─ 2003-08-29 15:56svin Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
├─ 2003-08-29 15:13EggyToast Re: [idm] getting started with DJ:ing
└─ 2003-08-29 15:40RE: [idm] getting started with DJ:ing
2003-08-29 20:37AllYourBetas Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
2003-08-29 21:12AllYourBetas Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
2003-08-29 21:25AllYourBetas Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
2003-08-29 21:36AllYourBetas Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
2003-08-29 22:29AllYourBetas Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
└─ 2003-08-30 15:48svin [idm] how to record vinyl records to hard drive or anything else
2003-09-01 02:32spw Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
2003-09-01 15:11Albers, Brian A. RE: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
└─ 2003-09-03 04:29Dan Haskovec RE: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
2003-09-03 05:01lysaabi Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
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2003-08-29 14:25visaI've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a bit unsure of the mo
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I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a bit unsure of the most appropriate vessel for materializing my ambitions. The choices seem to go as follows: 1.) turntables with vinyl, 2.) turntables + laptop + final scratch, 3.) laptop with traktor or 4.) DJ:ing with cd's. Currently I don't have any vinyl records, which seems to be a problem with the first option, since before I could really start spinning I should gather shitloads of records. At present I don't own a laptop either, but that's something I'm going to get sooner or later (since I'm a tight producer). Options 2 and 3 would solve the source material problem, since there would be a practically endless supply to chooce from. Using CDs would seem to be convenient, since I am constantly purchasing more and more of them and I already have a reasonably large selection to choose from. Furthermore, I could always burn stuff on cd with my rewritable. But does anyone take a CD-DJ seriously? Any other issues I should take into consideration? So, which of the above options would you suggest? The most common option, turntables + vinyl, would seem to be a good choice since sooner or later I would have to get a vinyl player anyway as vinyl is such a cute format. Furthermore, it could be later expanded with final scratch to include the material I wouldn't have as vinyl. What turntables would you then recommend? (I realise this is quite close to the thread 'Should I buy a Turntable for IDM?', but here the emphasis is obviously more on DJing.) Should I start with something really cheap or invest straight away in some quality gear, which probably wouldn't have to be upgraded in a long time? What devices have good price/quality ratio? thanks .: visa tapani --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-29 14:46David Whewellif you're concerned whether "cd djs" are taken seriously or not, you need to find a less e
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if you're concerned whether "cd djs" are taken seriously or not, you need to find a less elitist clique before you start spinning. ;) though i'd go for a pair of cdj-1000s to dj with, which allows you to manipulate CDs like vinyl. the earlier mdoels weren't so hot, but these ones are really good at it. aside from that, i wouldnt advise going for the vinyl solution unless you somehow acquire a large amount of vinyl, or buy a pressing plant ;) final scratch might be an option but i suggest you give it a test drive before you commit to it as you may find it a little quirky. david At 17:25 29/08/2003 +0300, visa wrote:
quoted 40 lines I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a bit>I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a bit >unsure of the most appropriate vessel for materializing my ambitions. > >The choices seem to go as follows: 1.) turntables with vinyl, 2.) turntables >+ laptop + final scratch, 3.) laptop with traktor or 4.) DJ:ing with cd's. > >Currently I don't have any vinyl records, which seems to be a problem with >the first option, since before I could really start spinning I should gather >shitloads of records. At present I don't own a laptop either, but that's >something I'm going to get sooner or later (since I'm a tight producer). >Options 2 and 3 would solve the source material problem, since there would >be a practically endless supply to chooce from. Using CDs would seem to be >convenient, since I am constantly purchasing more and more of them and I >already have a reasonably large selection to choose from. Furthermore, I >could always burn stuff on cd with my rewritable. But does anyone take a >CD-DJ seriously? Any other issues I should take into consideration? > >So, which of the above options would you suggest? The most common option, >turntables + vinyl, would seem to be a good choice since sooner >or later I would have to get a vinyl player anyway as vinyl is such a cute >format. Furthermore, it could be later expanded with final scratch to >include the material I wouldn't have as vinyl. > >What turntables would you then recommend? (I realise this is quite close to >the thread 'Should I buy a Turntable for IDM?', but here the emphasis is >obviously more on DJing.) Should I start with something really cheap or >invest straight away in some quality gear, which probably wouldn't have >to be upgraded in a long time? What devices have good price/quality ratio? > > > thanks > > .: visa tapani > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2003-08-29 15:22lists@activaire.comThe CD is a good format for certain purposes. The way we look at it is that if the release
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The CD is a good format for certain purposes. The way we look at it is that if the release is purely for listening pleasure then it's fine on cd (even though it is true that vinyl sounds better). If the release is dj worthy then it should absolutely be on vinyl. We prefer putting out or stuff on vinyl because it really helps to limit the piracy, Brooklyn Keeps on Takin' it showed up on newsgroups within 2 days after only being sold at our show at electrowerks, I think we sold about 10 - 15 copies at that show. As you can imagine, it's really disturbing to see your release floating around for free after only selling 15 copies of it and having 985 left. As far as I know the Sky Tucker 12" has never surfaced on a server because unlike the hayday people now spend less time ripping vinyl. I've ripped vinyl in the past so that I can listen to stuff on my mp3 player but it was a total pain in the ass and took a lot of time. I'm really surprised that more releases aren't on vinyl, it really protects the time and money you put into the release and definitely sounds better. Obviously you stand to make more money from putting out cds because everyone owns a cd player but the risk of having it tossed around for free just doesn't seem to make it worth it most of the time. I definitely support anyone's choice to buy a turntable, I think it goes hand in hand with supporting music in general. Also, once you get into buying vinyl you'll find that a whole new world of records and styles are available to you because there are a lot of vinyl only labels out there. Adesh The Record Camp Label http://www.recordcamp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-29 15:56svini can not imagine in anyway where i would store thousands of vinyl plates when i actually
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i can not imagine in anyway where i would store thousands of vinyl plates when i actually had a turntable and several hundreds of plates it was already a disaster each hundred of them takes a space of a winebox or so with all the new music released lately , it would require a separate room 12by 12by 12 feet filled with vinyl racks and it will only be good for 1or 2 years of newe releases with the mp3 files - i can store 5-10 hours of muic on a cd or maybe i can even get a 180G USB hard drive that will hold 2-4 thousand hours of music. besides you can not listen to vinyl in the car, on the go and at a friend's place its time to change media and pricing structure maybe music production will become totally non-comercial hobby earning zero money i guess it is for the best __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-29 15:13EggyToastvisa said: > I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a > bit u
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visa said:
quoted 3 lines I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a> I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a > bit unsure of the most appropriate vessel for materializing my > ambitions.
Probably the biggest advantage to vinyl over CD in the DJ medium is the ability to jump amazingly quickly around the record, which makes splicing and chopping and looping MUCh easier (with practice, of course). But you need to put tape on the vinyl and pick up the needle -- something you can't do with CDs or MP3s. It's also more difficult to cue up CDs quickly, since it has to be fed into the player and spun up, vs. just slapped on an already-spinning plate and you're good to go (again, thanks to dj tape on the vinyl already). So it really depends on what you want to do. Do you want to go all kid koala or qbert? Or are you happy just playing tracks back with speed control and a little scratching? You have more options available for *how* you wish to DJ with vinyl. -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-29 15:40lists@activaire.comMy one warning about djing, specifically djing idm is that currently there aren't a whole
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My one warning about djing, specifically djing idm is that currently there aren't a whole lot of idm records (new ones at least) that are worth djing, by this I mean records that you can play to a group of people that you know they'd like or be able to get into. Also there aren't a whole lot of people who care about this sort of thing anymore. I've watched the numbers drop insanely here in nyc. You used to be able to drop keynell or something like that in a set and get a cheer but now people start to lose interest. One could say fuck it and just play it anyway, we do that, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. A good mixture of records makes a big deal these days. The days of the dj rolling in with a bag consisting only of warp, rephlex, skam and mas are long gone. On a much less negative note :-) there are a lot of labels of the idm ilk that are releasing great records that really work when you play them out. Ghostly, Merck, B Pitch, Us (hehe), Area info, Seed, and of course the main stays like warp, rephlex and skam. Warp is gearing up to release a new series of dancefloor oriented 12"s that I'm really excited about. The latest lfo and viberts are excellent as well. If you don't have a vinyl collection already, you shouldn't let that stop you, anyone here who collects vinyl will tell you that the pleasure of tracking down rare records is amazing. Just a few weeks ago I found Sun Electric's Present album for $5, I've been looking for that one for years, joy! 2cent, Adesh The Record Camp Label http://www.recordcamp.com -----Original Message----- From: visa [mailto:v.kuoppala@pp.inet.fi] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 10:26 AM To: hyperreal idm Subject: [idm] getting started with DJ:ing I've been considering getting into DJ:ing for some time now, but am a bit unsure of the most appropriate vessel for materializing my ambitions. The choices seem to go as follows: 1.) turntables with vinyl, 2.) turntables + laptop + final scratch, 3.) laptop with traktor or 4.) DJ:ing with + cd's. Currently I don't have any vinyl records, which seems to be a problem with the first option, since before I could really start spinning I should gather shitloads of records. At present I don't own a laptop either, but that's something I'm going to get sooner or later (since I'm a tight producer). Options 2 and 3 would solve the source material problem, since there would be a practically endless supply to chooce from. Using CDs would seem to be convenient, since I am constantly purchasing more and more of them and I already have a reasonably large selection to choose from. Furthermore, I could always burn stuff on cd with my rewritable. But does anyone take a CD-DJ seriously? Any other issues I should take into consideration? So, which of the above options would you suggest? The most common option, turntables + vinyl, would seem to be a good choice since sooner or later I would have to get a vinyl player anyway as vinyl is such a cute format. Furthermore, it could be later expanded with final scratch to include the material I wouldn't have as vinyl. What turntables would you then recommend? (I realise this is quite close to the thread 'Should I buy a Turntable for IDM?', but here the emphasis is obviously more on DJing.) Should I start with something really cheap or invest straight away in some quality gear, which probably wouldn't have to be upgraded in a long time? What devices have good price/quality ratio? thanks .: visa tapani --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-29 20:37AllYourBetasPerhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer (or just play t
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Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer (or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less "treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? My turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-29 21:12AllYourBetasTechnics SL-1200MK2 Stanton Trackmaster 500 Stanton SMX-201 preamp 4 grams on the tonearm
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Technics SL-1200MK2 Stanton Trackmaster 500 Stanton SMX-201 preamp 4 grams on the tonearm weight ----- Original Message ----- From: Chelsea Purvis To: allyourbetas@skwire.net Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl There are a few possible reasons for this: a.. The stylus needs cleaning b.. The phono amp could be the source c.. The tonearm weight need adjusting. Probably a bit less weight (the stylus could be digging into the groove). What turntable/powersource/tonearm/cartridge(stylus)/phono amp have you got? Dom -------Original Message------- From: AllYourBetas Date: 29 August 2003 21:38:29 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer (or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less "treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? My turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org . ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
2003-08-29 21:25AllYourBetasWhat are some other good turntables I should look at (under $500) that would work best for
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What are some other good turntables I should look at (under $500) that would work best for recording purposes only? I don't do any DJing; it would be strictly for recording to digital... ----- Original Message ----- From: Chelsea Purvis To: allyourbetas@skwire.net Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl The problem with SL1200's is that they are designed for DJ use, and not really for home use. Ideally you want to buy something by Rega www.rega.co.uk etc. with a different type of cartridge (the diamond has a different profile) which although aren't as robust have a better sonic pick up. Dom -------Original Message------- From: AllYourBetas Date: 29 August 2003 22:13:10 To: idm@hyperreal.org; Chelsea Purvis Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl Technics SL-1200MK2 Stanton Trackmaster 500 Stanton SMX-201 preamp 4 grams on the tonearm weight ----- Original Message ----- From: Chelsea Purvis To: allyourbetas@skwire.net Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl There are a few possible reasons for this: a.. The stylus needs cleaning b.. The phono amp could be the source c.. The tonearm weight need adjusting. Probably a bit less weight (the stylus could be digging into the groove). What turntable/powersource/tonearm/cartridge(stylus)/phono amp have you got? Dom -------Original Message------- From: AllYourBetas Date: 29 August 2003 21:38:29 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer (or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less "treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? My turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org . ____________________________________________________ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
2003-08-29 21:36AllYourBetasYup, I checked the booklet that came with the stylus... said 3 to 5 grams. I checked vario
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Yup, I checked the booklet that came with the stylus... said 3 to 5 grams. I checked various sites on this subject as well; for my stylus the concensus was 4 to 5 grams. As far as the anti-skating... both the booklet and the sites said to have it set to 0, which I do... plus my AS dial only goes to 3. Could this be a problem? ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hodgson" <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> To: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
quoted 2 lines VERTICAL TRACKING FORCE (VTF) should be *exactly* what's recommended for> VERTICAL TRACKING FORCE (VTF) should be *exactly* what's recommended for > your particular cartridge = no more & no less ...check the booklet
included
quoted 4 lines with the cartridge to see what the manufacturer suggests...VTF is not> with the cartridge to see what the manufacturer suggests...VTF is not > something you guess...1st static balance your tonearm (where the tonearm > floats parallel to the record surface with the VTF set @ ZERO)...now the > arm is balanced...next dial in the recommended tracking force...should
make
quoted 3 lines quite a difference if you haven't checked it in awhile...make sure the> quite a difference if you haven't checked it in awhile...make sure the > anti-skate matches the VTF setting...not saying this is your problem but > it's good to re-check this stuff often to get maximum performance from
your
quoted 3 lines deck> deck > > email me if you have any questions and maybe I can help ...cheers. david
/ pbe
quoted 21 lines At 14:12 29/08/2003 -0700, AllYourBetas wrote:> > At 14:12 29/08/2003 -0700, AllYourBetas wrote: > > > >Technics SL-1200MK2 > >Stanton Trackmaster 500 > >Stanton SMX-201 preamp > >4 grams on the tonearm weight > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <mailto:chelsea@dom-green.demon.co.uk>Chelsea Purvis > >To: <mailto:allyourbetas@skwire.net>allyourbetas@skwire.net > >Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:58 PM > >Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl > > > > > > There are a few possible reasons for this: > > * The stylus needs cleaning > > * The phono amp could be the source > > * The tonearm weight need adjusting. Probably a bit less weight (the > > stylus could be digging into the groove). > >What turntable/powersource/tonearm/cartridge(stylus)/phono amp have you
got?
quoted 10 lines Dom> > > >Dom > >-------Original Message------- > > > >From: <mailto:allyourbetas@skwire.net>AllYourBetas > >Date: 29 August 2003 21:38:29 > >To: <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org>idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl > > > >Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my
computer
quoted 5 lines (or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less> >(or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less > >"treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? My > >turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an > >accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit? >
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2003-08-29 22:29AllYourBetasThanks to all who have replied ;) The tonearm is perfectly balanced (just re set it a few
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Thanks to all who have replied ;) The tonearm is perfectly balanced (just re set it a few days ago). What is an effective, safe method for cleaning the stylus? This is something I have neglected to do (granted, the stylus is brand new as of a few weeks ago). ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hodgson" <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> To: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
quoted 2 lines At 14:36 29/08/2003 -0700, you wrote:> At 14:36 29/08/2003 -0700, you wrote: > >Yup, I checked the booklet that came with the stylus... said 3 to 5
grams.
quoted 8 lines I checked various sites on this subject as well; for my stylus the> >I checked various sites on this subject as well; for my stylus the > >concensus was 4 to 5 grams. > > that's fine but is your arm perfectly balanced? if it's not your VTF > setting might not be accurate ...so make sure the arm is balanced...which > means you need to set everything at ZERO and see what the arm does when > it's free from the arm rest...be careful and turn off power to your deck > while you perform this adjustment...if the arm hangs down or points up
it's
quoted 5 lines not balanced...move the counterweight until the arm floats level with the> not balanced...move the counterweight until the arm floats level with the > record surface...now you're balanced...next dial in the preferred VTF > > > >As far as the anti-skating... both the booklet and the sites said to have
it
quoted 4 lines set to 0, which I do... plus my AS dial only goes to 3. Could this be a> >set to 0, which I do... plus my AS dial only goes to 3. Could this be a > >problem? > > dunno, maybe different w/ DJ decks ...if you're getting any break-up in
one
quoted 18 lines channel you might need to add some AS...but if the sound is smooth overall> channel you might need to add some AS...but if the sound is smooth overall > and tracking feels solid you're probably OK...a manual ttable WOULD be > better for vinyl transfers to CD-R or whatever. > > cheers. david / pbe > > p.s. you must clean the stylus after EVERY side to get the best sound > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "David Hodgson" <playing.by.ear@mindspring.com> > >To: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net> > >Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 2:30 PM > >Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl > > > > > > > VERTICAL TRACKING FORCE (VTF) should be *exactly* what's recommended
for
quoted 4 lines your particular cartridge = no more & no less ...check the booklet> > > your particular cartridge = no more & no less ...check the booklet > >included > > > with the cartridge to see what the manufacturer suggests...VTF is not > > > something you guess...1st static balance your tonearm (where the
tonearm
quoted 1 line floats parallel to the record surface with the VTF set @ ZERO)...now> > > floats parallel to the record surface with the VTF set @ ZERO)...now
the
quoted 4 lines arm is balanced...next dial in the recommended tracking force...should> > > arm is balanced...next dial in the recommended tracking force...should > >make > > > quite a difference if you haven't checked it in awhile...make sure the > > > anti-skate matches the VTF setting...not saying this is your problem
but
quoted 5 lines it's good to re-check this stuff often to get maximum performance from> > > it's good to re-check this stuff often to get maximum performance from > >your > > > deck > > > > > > email me if you have any questions and maybe I can help ...cheers.
david
quoted 20 lines / pbe> >/ pbe > > > > > > At 14:12 29/08/2003 -0700, AllYourBetas wrote: > > > > > > > >Technics SL-1200MK2 > > > >Stanton Trackmaster 500 > > > >Stanton SMX-201 preamp > > > >4 grams on the tonearm weight > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: <mailto:chelsea@dom-green.demon.co.uk>Chelsea Purvis > > > >To: <mailto:allyourbetas@skwire.net>allyourbetas@skwire.net > > > >Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 1:58 PM > > > >Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl > > > > > > > > > > > > There are a few possible reasons for this: > > > > * The stylus needs cleaning > > > > * The phono amp could be the source > > > > * The tonearm weight need adjusting. Probably a bit less weight
(the
quoted 2 lines stylus could be digging into the groove).> > > > stylus could be digging into the groove). > > > >What turntable/powersource/tonearm/cartridge(stylus)/phono amp have
you
quoted 13 lines got?> >got? > > > > > > > >Dom > > > >-------Original Message------- > > > > > > > >From: <mailto:allyourbetas@skwire.net>AllYourBetas > > > >Date: 29 August 2003 21:38:29 > > > >To: <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org>idm@hyperreal.org > > > >Subject: Re: [idm] Cds / Vinyl > > > > > > > >Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my > >computer > > > >(or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far
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quoted 5 lines "treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? My> > > >"treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? My > > > >turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an > > > >accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit? > > > >
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2003-08-30 15:48svinit could be that your turntable is not grounded properly- just follow the instruction and
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it could be that your turntable is not grounded properly- just follow the instruction and ground it or you conect turntable directly to line-in of your sound card- try connecting turntable to priamp that you use for volume controls when you listen to your records on your speakers, in normal way that priamp should have line-out, and than you connect that line out to your sound card i guess that is the problem and in this way it should solve it 100% __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-09-01 02:32spw> From: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net> > Perhaps someone can help me out here...
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quoted 1 line From: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net>> From: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net>
quoted 3 lines Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer> Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer > (or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less > "treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this?
That's the nature of vinyl, vinyl and CD are mastered differently. I usually buy CD's since I'm not a DJ who has to rely on vinyl and the music is properly mastered for digital audio there's also the convenience factor.
quoted 2 lines turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an> turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an > accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit?
I wouldn't recommend it, I hate when people process vinyl mixes with EQ or plug-Ins. Just record the mix dry (a good sound card helps) and let people adjust the EQ on their stereo. If you notice vinyl mixes sound better recorded to tape, that usually makes things a little warmer. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-09-01 15:11Albers, Brian A.On quite a different note, but still on the turntable tip- When I record vinyl into the 'p
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RE: [idm] Cds / Vinyl
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On quite a different note, but still on the turntable tip- When I record vinyl into the 'puter (protools) and start fixing all the pops and clicks and skips and other surface noise, I see that about 95% of those sounds happen in only one channel in my case, the right. Is there some logical explanaition for this? Is it that my needle is getting old? Or perhaps just the way the needle sits in the grooves? Is it the records themselves? > From: "AllYourBetas" <allyourbetas@skwire.net> > Perhaps someone can help me out here... when I record vinyl to my computer > (or just play the record on its own), I notice that the audio is far less > "treble-y" than the CD version of the same track(s). Why is this? That's the nature of vinyl, vinyl and CD are mastered differently. I usually buy CD's since I'm not a DJ who has to rely on vinyl and the music is properly mastered for digital audio there's also the convenience factor. > turntable and recording equipment is excellent. If Im looking for an > accurate recording of the music, should I boot the highs a wee bit? I wouldn't recommend it, I hate when people process vinyl mixes with EQ or plug-Ins. Just record the mix dry (a good sound card helps) and let people adjust the EQ on their stereo. If you notice vinyl mixes sound better recorded to tape, that usually makes things a little warmer. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-09-03 04:29Dan HaskovecWell, since the needle is moving from the outside in, it follows that there is more pressu
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Well, since the needle is moving from the outside in, it follows that there is more pressure on the outside of the groove than the inside. Thus, it makes sense that the sides/channels would react differently to pops. Also, you'll get more wear on the outside edge. On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Albers, Brian A. wrote:
quoted 8 lines On quite a different note, but still on the turntable tip-> On quite a different note, but still on the turntable tip- > > When I record vinyl into the 'puter (protools) and start fixing all > the pops and clicks and skips and other surface noise, I see that > about 95% of those sounds happen in only one channel in my case, the > right. Is there some logical explanaition for this? Is it that my > needle is getting old? Or perhaps just the way the needle sits in the > grooves? Is it the records themselves?
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2003-09-03 05:01lysaabisoooooo I guess you're saying the outside of the groove corresponds to the right channel??
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soooooo I guess you're saying the outside of the groove corresponds to the right channel??? you must be an enganeer ...? Dan Haskovec wrote:
quoted 19 lines Well, since the needle is moving from the outside in, it follows that> Well, since the needle is moving from the outside in, it follows that > there is more pressure on the outside of the groove than the inside. Thus, > it makes sense that the sides/channels would react differently to pops. > Also, you'll get more wear on the outside edge. > > On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Albers, Brian A. wrote: > > > On quite a different note, but still on the turntable tip- > > > > When I record vinyl into the 'puter (protools) and start fixing all > > the pops and clicks and skips and other surface noise, I see that > > about 95% of those sounds happen in only one channel in my case, the > > right. Is there some logical explanaition for this? Is it that my > > needle is getting old? Or perhaps just the way the needle sits in the > > grooves? Is it the records themselves? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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