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2003-08-12 20:44synctank [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
2003-08-12 21:15Albers, Brian A. RE: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
2003-08-13 00:56component Re: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
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2003-08-13 01:28AUDiOTACTiX Re: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
└─ 2003-08-13 03:05Brett Dietsch Re: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
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2003-08-12 20:44synctankthanks to my guest [m.c.p.] for playing a few choice selections and to [e3six] for some mu
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thanks to my guest [m.c.p.] for playing a few choice selections and to [e3six] for some much needed new tunes. hidden forms playlist 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago [synctank] skinny puppy: the process [m.c.p.] doubting thomas: clocks [synctank] seven trees: submission kalte farben: keep me i.y.m. morgue: nature's freak (rmx) interlace: equus implant: nine placebo effect: slashed open second disease: god's work interlace: equus (rmx by headscan) decoded feedback: phoenix skinny puppy: mortar haujobb: claim the planet download: base metal (rmx) [m.c.p.] delerium: transhumanist plateau: grasshopper [synctank] aural: feederwire forma tadre: sinus park desormais: ruin her slowly airborn: manifesto heavy water factory: intervated aural: i hope proem: second class citizen phonem: tigris / water by other means / thirst aztech: apartheid opiate: opittt ---------------------------------------------------------- Hidden Forms broadcasts Saturday nights 9:00pm to 11:30pm on WNUR 89.3 FM Evanston - Chicago. Submit requests and comments when I am on the air by calling 847.866.9687 or with AOL Instant Messager, screenname "WNURdj". WNUR broadcasts live on the web: http://www.wnur.org/live.ram Playlists and archived shows: http://www.wnur.org/industrial/ Thanks for listening... - synctank perfect_dark radio idm / ambient / electronica http://www.synctank.net "this world spins but not for you" - david thrussell --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-12 21:15Albers, Brian A.>[synctank] >skinny puppy: the process I was going through some papers in my house the oth
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quoted 1 line skinny puppy: the process>skinny puppy: the process
I was going through some papers in my house the other day and I found some press clipping put out by the band announcing Dwayne's death. Because they were on American Recordings at the time, there was a couple blurbs about how offended they were at the record label for trying to capitalize of his death. Well, it reminded me of that album, The Process, which was the only one they did for American. I remember how horrible I thought it was when it came out. Now I thought 'let's give it another spin. Maybe my sensiblilities have changed. I still really love a lot of their other stuff and maybe I was too quick to write it off. I'll dig it up and put it on.' Dude. What a fucking horrible album. Embarrasing. I know there was much turmoil working on the album even before Dwayne's death with them switching producers and studios and the band ultimately breaking up and then Dwayne died and they still had to finish the album for release. Still, even those aren't good enough excuses for putting out that piece of shit (minus the only decent song on there- Blue Serge I think it is). All those heavy metal guitars. Totally misdirected. None of the melodic stuff works for me, and the noisy electronic stuff is just a shadow of what they once were. And since I'm such a sucker, I can't wait to hear the new SP stuff (if it ever fucking comes out). The new Ohgr is better than his first solo release, although it has this shiny sparkly sheen which makes it sound like it's on a major label. Haven't heard that new Cevin Key thing. Give me Too Dark Park or Last Rights any day. Brian.
2003-08-13 00:56componentIt's all about the Two Dark Park! A totally brilliant record. It still holds it's own toda
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It's all about the Two Dark Park! A totally brilliant record. It still holds it's own today. If they can make tracks as good as "Frozen Sky"(the track with Ogre's vocals) on cEvin's Ghost of Every Room, I think it will be great. Rob ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Albers, Brian A. <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> To: synctank <purist@synctank.net>; <chicagoidm@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <chicagoElectro@yahoogroups.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>; <purist@yahoogroups.com>; <playlists@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: RE: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
quoted 6 lines [synctank]> > >[synctank] > > >skinny puppy: the process > > I was going through some papers in my house the other day and I found some press clipping put out by the band announcing Dwayne's
death. Because they were on American Recordings at the time, there was a couple blurbs about how offended they were at the record label for trying to capitalize of his death.
quoted 2 lines Well, it reminded me of that album, The Process, which was the only one they did for Ameri> > Well, it reminded me of that album, The Process, which was the only one they did for American. I remember how horrible I thought
it was when it came out.
quoted 2 lines Now I thought 'let's give it another spin. Maybe my sensiblilities have changed.> > Now I thought 'let's give it another spin. Maybe my sensiblilities have changed. I still really love a lot of their other stuff
and maybe I was too quick to write it off. I'll dig it up and put it on.'
quoted 2 lines Dude. What a fucking horrible album. Embarrasing. I know there was much turmoil working on> > Dude. What a fucking horrible album. Embarrasing. I know there was much turmoil working on the album even before Dwayne's death
with them switching producers and studios and the band ultimately breaking up and then Dwayne died and they still had to finish the album for release.
quoted 2 lines Still, even those aren't good enough excuses for putting out that piece of shit (minu> > Still, even those aren't good enough excuses for putting out that piece of shit (minus the only decent song on there- Blue Serge I
think it is). All those heavy metal guitars. Totally misdirected. None of the melodic stuff works for me, and the noisy electronic stuff is just a shadow of what they once were.
quoted 2 lines And since I'm such a sucker, I can't wait to hear the new SP stuff (if it ever f> > And since I'm such a sucker, I can't wait to hear the new SP stuff (if it ever fucking comes out). The new Ohgr is better than his
first solo release, although it has this shiny sparkly sheen which makes it sound like it's on a major label. Haven't heard that new Cevin Key thing.
quoted 3 lines Give me Too Dark Park or Last Rights any day. Brian.> > Give me Too Dark Park or Last Rights any day. Brian. >
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2003-08-13 02:38Aster X Prodax>It's all about the Two Dark Park! > >A totally brilliant record. It still holds it's >own
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quoted 4 lines It's all about the Two Dark Park!>It's all about the Two Dark Park! > >A totally brilliant record. It still holds it's >own today.
yeah puppy is one of those bands that even during the whole glut of post-jourgensen industrial/metal crossover shit i always thought would stay true to their roots, and then they fucking dropped that process crap. it kind of sealed the whole thing for me, that and "filth pig" by ministry. those 2 records came out right around the same time and both sucked so hard i was unable to listen to ministry, cocks or skinny puppy for almost 10 years. i just rediscovered all those 3 though and thankfully most of it holds up exceptionally, especially puppy. unfortunately my heroin addict former roommate converted most of my puppy cd catalog into scabs on his arms, so i was left with only the vinyl copies of vivisectvi and mind-tpi ... i went out a couple weekends ago and repurchased too dark park along with twitch and land of rape and honey by ministry. too dark park was such a revelation to me in high school -- the distorted drumloop on nature's revenge where it skips the beat every 17 beats or so fucking blew my young mind, and the intensity of the production rivals the bomb squad of public enemy fame in terms of densly packed layers of sound. brilliance. ministry's twitch and l.o.r+h were (in my humble opinion) the pinnacle of their career, propbably peaking with l.o.r+h and waning a bit with "the mind is a terrible thing to taste", which had some brilliant stuff on it but also had the song "test" which was a horrible omen of shitty rap/rock fusions yet to come. put on land of rape and honey some time and see if you don't erupt into a spontaneous solo mosh pit a la medusa's c. 1990 ... you can't stop it. "the missing" and "deity" really set the bar for all that metal-guitar driven industrial shit that never quite reached as far as that record. twitch on the other hand came before al got his chugga-chugga on and when he was still flirting ever so lightly with his "no really, i'm from london, not hyde park" persona ... it's a fucking masterpiece of cheezy industrial pop, and is especially interesting to digest in tandem with it's bizzaro twin album made during the same recording sessions, revolting cocks "big sexy land". anyway shit i kind of ran off on this tangent. i hope others will share some special al jourgensen memories that don't involve vomit or lollapalooza. thanks for your time. -aprox ps. my next post will analyze what happened when puppy and jourgensen got together to make that somewhat flawed, somewhat brilliant, fully schizophrenic concoction known as "rabies". --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-13 03:03Brett DietschOn Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Aster X Prodax wrote: > > yeah puppy is one of t
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On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Aster X Prodax wrote:
quoted 5 lines yeah puppy is one of those bands that even during the whole glut of> > yeah puppy is one of those bands that even during the whole glut of > post-jourgensen industrial/metal crossover shit i always thought would > stay true to their roots, and then they fucking dropped that process > crap.
you know, i see a lot of people posting this, but i just dont get it. aside from candle, the cd was a general continuation of everything they've ever done. it felt like skinny puppy, and made sense as far as musical evolution goes. it was a good cd, i'm just wondering why people refer to it as crap without actually saying what they dont like about it.
quoted 3 lines ps. my next post will analyze what happened when puppy and jourgensen> ps. my next post will analyze what happened when puppy and jourgensen > got together to make that somewhat flawed, somewhat brilliant, fully > schizophrenic concoction known as "rabies".
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2003-08-13 03:23EggyToastAt 11:03 PM 8/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Aster X
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At 11:03 PM 8/12/2003 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 12 lines On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Aster X Prodax wrote:>On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:38 PM, Aster X Prodax wrote: >> >>yeah puppy is one of those bands that even during the whole glut of >>post-jourgensen industrial/metal crossover shit i always thought would >>stay true to their roots, and then they fucking dropped that process crap. > >you know, i see a lot of people posting this, but i just dont get it. > >aside from candle, the cd was a general continuation of everything they've >ever done. it felt like skinny puppy, and made sense as far as musical >evolution goes. it was a good cd, i'm just wondering why people refer to >it as crap without actually saying what they dont like about it.
I think you need to have grown up with 80's industrial to really enjoy it, as there's definitely the element of "doing it first even though it's not that exciting in hindsight." Most everyone who's spoken to me about it has said "oh man, at the time it blew my mind!" When I listened to Too Dark Park, I was mostly bored by it. Maybe I didn't take enough drugs? Perhaps listening to it over 10 years after it came out tainted it? Maybe it wasn't really that good? ;D But yeah. It seems that if you weren't into it in the 80's, the only way to get into it now is to fully adopt a gothy lifestyle. derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ----- it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-08-13 01:28AUDiOTACTiXreally, i always thought 'cleans fold and manipulate' was the thing! i kinda think that oh
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really, i always thought 'cleans fold and manipulate' was the thing! i kinda think that ohgr's 'sunnypsyop' sounds just like his last record. 'music for cats' is an odd one tho. AUDiOTACTiX ----- Original Message ----- From: "component" <component@mindstorm.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago
quoted 20 lines It's all about the Two Dark Park!> It's all about the Two Dark Park! > > A totally brilliant record. It still holds it's > own today. > > If they can make tracks as good as "Frozen Sky"(the track > with Ogre's vocals) on cEvin's Ghost of Every Room, I think > it will be great. > > Rob > ::::::Component Records::::::: > Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 > www.componentrecords.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Albers, Brian A. <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> > To: synctank <purist@synctank.net>; <chicagoidm@yahoogroups.com> > Cc: <chicagoElectro@yahoogroups.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>;
<purist@yahoogroups.com>; <playlists@yahoogroups.com>
quoted 10 lines Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:15 PM> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 5:15 PM > Subject: RE: [idm] hidden forms 122 > 08.09.03 > wnur 89.3fm chicago > > > > > > >[synctank] > > > > >skinny puppy: the process > > > > I was going through some papers in my house the other day and I found
some press clipping put out by the band announcing Dwayne's
quoted 1 line death. Because they were on American Recordings at the time, there was a> death. Because they were on American Recordings at the time, there was a
couple blurbs about how offended they were at the record
quoted 3 lines label for trying to capitalize of his death.> label for trying to capitalize of his death. > > > > Well, it reminded me of that album, The Process, which was the only one
they did for American. I remember how horrible I thought
quoted 3 lines it was when it came out.> it was when it came out. > > > > Now I thought 'let's give it another spin. Maybe my sensiblilities have
changed. I still really love a lot of their other stuff
quoted 3 lines and maybe I was too quick to write it off. I'll dig it up and put it on.'> and maybe I was too quick to write it off. I'll dig it up and put it on.' > > > > Dude. What a fucking horrible album. Embarrasing. I know there was much
turmoil working on the album even before Dwayne's death
quoted 1 line with them switching producers and studios and the band ultimately breaking> with them switching producers and studios and the band ultimately breaking
up and then Dwayne died and they still had to finish the
quoted 3 lines album for release.> album for release. > > > > Still, even those aren't good enough excuses for putting out that piece
of shit (minus the only decent song on there- Blue Serge I
quoted 1 line think it is). All those heavy metal guitars. Totally misdirected. None of> think it is). All those heavy metal guitars. Totally misdirected. None of
the melodic stuff works for me, and the noisy electronic
quoted 3 lines stuff is just a shadow of what they once were.> stuff is just a shadow of what they once were. > > > > And since I'm such a sucker, I can't wait to hear the new SP stuff (if
it ever fucking comes out). The new Ohgr is better than his
quoted 1 line first solo release, although it has this shiny sparkly sheen which makes> first solo release, although it has this shiny sparkly sheen which makes
it sound like it's on a major label. Haven't heard that new
quoted 11 lines Cevin Key thing.> Cevin Key thing. > > > > Give me Too Dark Park or Last Rights any day. Brian. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-08-13 03:05Brett DietschOn Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 09:28 PM, AUDiOTACTiX wrote: > really, i always thought 'c
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On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 09:28 PM, AUDiOTACTiX wrote:
quoted 4 lines really, i always thought 'cleans fold and manipulate' was the thing! i> really, i always thought 'cleans fold and manipulate' was the thing! i > kinda > think that ohgr's 'sunnypsyop' sounds just like his last record. > 'music for cats' is an odd one tho.
it sounds a lot like the other stuff because it was written around the same time. thats what happens when shit sits on a shelf for a few years. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org