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2003-04-02 17:51magicteeth [idm] boards of canada title spotting question
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2003-04-02 17:51magicteethdoes anyone know if the title from boards of canada's "in a beautiful place out in the cou
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does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's "in a beautiful place out in the country" has any relation to the move "the lathe of heaven"? there is a scene where this psychiatrist tells his patient he should think of a beautiful place in the country as the doctor hypnotizes him, and keeps repeating this phrase. interesting flick, if you haven't seen it yet.. ===== magicteeth http://www.mp3.com/magicteeth __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-02 18:05EggyToastmagicteeth said: > does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's > "in a beautiful
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quoted 7 lines does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's> does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's > "in a beautiful place out in the country" has any > relation to the move "the lathe of heaven"? there is > a scene where this psychiatrist tells his patient he > should think of a beautiful place in the country as > the doctor hypnotizes him, and keeps repeating this > phrase. interesting flick, if you haven't seen it yet..
Any discussion of religious communities? They probably snagged it from a religious cult/community flier/propaganda of some sorts. derek -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ catchy signature coming soon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-02 20:43Eric SorensonOn Wed, 2 Apr 2003, magicteeth wrote: > does anyone know if the title from boards of canad
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, magicteeth wrote:
quoted 7 lines does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's> does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's > "in a beautiful place out in the country" has any > relation to the move "the lathe of heaven"? there is > a scene where this psychiatrist tells his patient he > should think of a beautiful place in the country as > the doctor hypnotizes him, and keeps repeating this > phrase. interesting flick, if you haven't seen it yet..
I recall reading that it's a reference to David Koresh's Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Some googling indicates this is widely held belief among BoC followers (http://www.davidac.fsworld.co.uk/boc_comments.htm#beautiful) but I couldn't find anything either from the band themselves nor from Amo Bishop Roden, the alleged source of the quote. There's probably something to it though, Amo Bishop Roden is a real person who is/was a Branch Davidian though not a follower of Koresh (http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco152.html) I have not seen the movie you mention, though perhaps Ms Roden did and it was the true source of her description. NP: Signer _Low Light Dreams_ "Detatched Under Buildings" -- Eric Sorenson - EXPLOSIVE Networking - http://explosive.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-02 21:09seeklektekFrom: "Eric Sorenson" > On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, magicteeth wrote: > > does anyone know if the
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quoted 8 lines On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, magicteeth wrote:> On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, magicteeth wrote: > > does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's > > "in a beautiful place out in the country" has any > > relation to the move "the lathe of heaven"? there is > > a scene where this psychiatrist tells his patient he > > should think of a beautiful place in the country as > > the doctor hypnotizes him, and keeps repeating this > > phrase. interesting flick, if you haven't seen it yet..
quoted 13 lines I recall reading that it's a reference to David Koresh's> I recall reading that it's a reference to David Koresh's > Branch Davidian compound in Waco. Some googling indicates > this is widely held belief among BoC followers > (http://www.davidac.fsworld.co.uk/boc_comments.htm#beautiful) > but I couldn't find anything either from the band themselves > nor from Amo Bishop Roden, the alleged source of the quote. > There's probably something to it though, Amo Bishop Roden > is a real person who is/was a Branch Davidian though not a > follower of Koresh (http://www.rickross.com/reference/waco/waco152.html) > I have not seen the movie you mention, though perhaps Ms Roden > did and it was the true source of her description. > NP: Signer _Low Light Dreams_ "Detatched Under Buildings" > Eric Sorenson - EXPLOSIVE Networking - http://explosive.net
David Koresh's photo is on the inside of the back insert of the 'Beautiful Place' CD; the middle photo of the three, to the right of the rainbow: that's Koresh, wearing glasses: only his right eye is visible in that pic. Here's the same photo: the full shot: http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/680000/images/_684344_koresh150.jpg Is that Jerry Falwell next to him, in the photo to the right of Koresh, on the insert? And can anyone id the bird on the cover, on the left? =seek= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-03 15:26John Readinghttp://www.thirteen.org/lathe/ sweet. It's on pbs in June. Must fire up the Tivo. Thanks f
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http://www.thirteen.org/lathe/ sweet. It's on pbs in June. Must fire up the Tivo. Thanks for the tip.
quoted 29 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: magicteeth [mailto:magicteeth@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 12:51 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] boards of canada title spotting question > > > does anyone know if the title from boards of canada's > "in a beautiful place out in the country" has any > relation to the move "the lathe of heaven"? there is > a scene where this psychiatrist tells his patient he > should think of a beautiful place in the country as > the doctor hypnotizes him, and keeps repeating this > phrase. interesting flick, if you haven't seen it yet.. > > ===== > magicteeth > http://www.mp3.com/magicteeth > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > http://tax.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-04-04 06:01magicteeth--- John Reading <john.reading@us.didata.com> wrote: > http://www.thirteen.org/lathe/ > >
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quoted 4 lines http://ww> http://www.thirteen.org/lathe/ > > sweet. It's on pbs in June. Must fire up the Tivo. > Thanks for the tip.
i've only seen the recently made version [an A&E production] which can be rented in video stores... i will have to check out the original as well. there's also a book upon which all this is based, and from what i've read it's supposed to be better than the film. the story is very philip k. dick-ish. ===== magicteeth http://www.mp3.com/magicteeth __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-04 14:24Kent williamsHeh. Yeah the book is perhaps my favorite Ursula K. Leguin novel. Though "The Left Hand Of
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Heh. Yeah the book is perhaps my favorite Ursula K. Leguin novel. Though "The Left Hand Of Darkness" and "The Disposessed" are crucial as well. The newer film version (or TV show, whatever) I thought was quite nice, though it got critically slagged. I've not seen the PBS original. While I'm completely off topic I might as well give my top Science Fiction author list, in no particular order: Jonathan Lethem -- start with "Gun, With Occasional Music" James Morrow -- "Towing Jehova" Melissa Scott -- Anything by her but "Dreaming Metal" is cool David Foster Wallace -- "The Infinite Jest" -- an alien chest-burster of a novel, without a doubt. Linda Nagata -- pretty far out there. As far as hard sci-fi goes, she's written some doozies. Greg Egan -- wicked stuff, especially "Schild's Ladder" Tim Powers -- Houdini, Ghosts, People Addicted to Smoking Ghosts... and it gets weirder than that... Philip K Dick -- naturally ... Joan Sloncewski -- "A Door Into Ocean" Great characters ... weird science Sherri Tepper -- a Big Thinker, a Good Writer, with loads of kickass novels. I won't even mention the obvious current darlings like William Gibson, Bruce Sterling, Neil Stephenson etc, because they're good, but you already know. On Thu, 3 Apr 2003, magicteeth wrote:
quoted 15 lines --- John Reading <john.reading@us.didata.com> wrote:> --- John Reading <john.reading@us.didata.com> wrote: > > http://www.thirteen.org/lathe/ > > > > sweet. It's on pbs in June. Must fire up the Tivo. > > Thanks for the tip. > > > i've only seen the recently made version [an A&E > production] which can be rented in video stores... > i will have to check out the original as well. > there's also a book upon which all this is based, and > from what i've read it's supposed to be better than > the film. the story is very philip k. dick-ish. > >
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2003-04-04 15:11seeklektekFrom: "Kent williams" > Heh. Yeah the book is perhaps my favorite Ursula K. Leguin novel.
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quoted 22 lines Heh. Yeah the book is perhaps my favorite Ursula K. Leguin novel. Though> Heh. Yeah the book is perhaps my favorite Ursula K. Leguin novel. Though > "The Left Hand Of Darkness" and "The Disposessed" are crucial as well. > The newer film version (or TV show, whatever) I thought was quite nice, though > it got critically slagged. I've not seen the PBS original. > While I'm completely off topic I might as well give my top Science Fiction > author list, in no particular order: > Jonathan Lethem -- start with "Gun, With Occasional Music" > James Morrow -- "Towing Jehova" > Melissa Scott -- Anything by her but "Dreaming Metal" is cool > David Foster Wallace -- "The Infinite Jest" -- an alien chest-burster of > a novel, without a doubt. > Linda Nagata -- pretty far out there. As far as hard sci-fi goes, she's > written some doozies. > Greg Egan -- wicked stuff, especially "Schild's Ladder" > Tim Powers -- Houdini, Ghosts, People Addicted to Smoking Ghosts... > and it gets weirder than that... > Philip K Dick -- naturally ... > Joan Sloncewski -- "A Door Into Ocean" Great characters ... weird science > Sherri Tepper -- a Big Thinker, a Good Writer, with loads of kickass novels. > I won't even mention the obvious current darlings like William Gibson, > Bruce Sterling, Neil Stephenson etc, because they're good, but you already > know.
On the off-topic topic: Odd fact: Ursula K. LeGuin went to High School with Phil Dick: she 'graduated' one year ahead of him. Nice list. A few to add to the list: James Blaylock - another Orange Co. magician; along with Tim Powers ('Stress of Her Regard'!!!), hung out with Phil Dick and talked 'shop'. 'Land of Dreams', 'Last Coin', 'The Digging Leviathan' Rudy Rucker - 'Software', 'Wetware', 'Freeware', 'Hacker and the Ants'; funny and smart: very smart. Tom Disch - 'Genocides', 'Camp Concentration', 'The Businessman'. His early stuff, 'Genocides', 'Camp Concentration' is more SF. The recent works are brilliant, cruel, magic. Jack Womack - often neglected in discussions of 'cyberpunks', this guy has seen the future: 'Random Acts of Senseless Violence'. Jeff Noon - writes books that take place in an alternate near-future Manchester, where people do 'feathers': psychedelics delivered on some sort-of a feather-thingy: Noon's stuff is very 'magical'. ;) 'Vurt' and 'Pollen' are his first two and both get into the feather thing, 'Vurt' more-so. 'Pollen' is the Persephone trip, but done 21st Century foxy! (***!!!IDM content alert!!!***) Noon's 'Needle to the Groove' is very cool: some kids in a band: dj and musicians: the remixes are created by running the sound through a liquid, which is enclosed in an orb in the mixing board, and remixing is done simply by shaking up the liquid in the ball: no two remixes are the same! But that isn't the ~really~ cool part: the liquid can be injected. Into the blood. Of music makers. "And we are the dreamers of the dream." ;) Greg Bear - Speaking of blood and music, 'Blood Music'! Wow! Crazy: Bear ends the world like no other sf writer has before: turns the end inside-out! The noosphere as a noose!!! For the Dick-heads on-list: here's why PKD looked at the Essene fish and had his 'pink light' experience: he was doing this very same thing at the time!: http://paulwilliams.com/Pkds.jpg =seek= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-04 18:55Aaron D MeyersI will second the Jeff Noon. Vurt was amazing, Pollen was better. Haven't read any of his
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I will second the Jeff Noon. Vurt was amazing, Pollen was better. Haven't read any of his more recent stuff, but I want to! While we are pimping out our favorite Sci Fi, one guy I saw missing on the lists was Cory Doctorow. He's a new guy on the scene, but definitely really good. He recently published a great novel called "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom". Takes place in Disneyland in trans/posthuman (no death) time. Money doesn't exist and instead the world operates on a sort of fluid system of cultural currency and reputation called "whoofie". Anyway, one of the coolest things about the book is that not only was it published in hardcover, but its also avaliable for download entirely for free in a plethora of formats. Download it here: http://www.craphound.com/down/ It operates on this interestiing derivative of copyright that I don't know enough to talk about but you can find more about here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/ Maybe there is something for music labels to glean from this. -Aaron
quoted 43 lines Jeff Noon - writes books that take place in an alternate near-> > Jeff Noon - writes books that take place in an alternate near- > future Manchester, where people > do 'feathers': psychedelics delivered on some sort-of a > feather-thingy: Noon's stuff is very > 'magical'. ;) 'Vurt' and 'Pollen' are his first two and > both get into the feather thing, > 'Vurt' more-so. 'Pollen' is the Persephone trip, but done > 21st Century foxy! > (***!!!IDM content > alert!!!***) Noon's 'Needle to the Groove' is very cool: some > kids in a band: dj and musicians: > the remixes are created by running the sound through a > liquid, which is enclosed in > an orb in the mixing board, and remixing is done simply > by shaking up the liquid > in the ball: no two remixes are the same! But that > isn't the ~really~ cool part: > the liquid can be injected. Into the blood. Of music > makers. "And we are the dreamers of the dream." ;) > > Greg Bear - Speaking of blood and music, 'Blood Music'! Wow! > Crazy: Bear ends the > world like no other sf writer has before: turns the end > inside-out! The noosphere as a > noose!!! > > > For the Dick-heads on-list: > here's why PKD looked at the Essene fish and had his 'pink light' > experience:he was doing this very same thing at the time!: > http://paulwilliams.com/Pkds.jpg > > > =seek= > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2003-04-04 16:14shift8i'm also a big fan of noon - here's my take on his work other than vurt and pollen: automa
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i'm also a big fan of noon - here's my take on his work other than vurt and pollen: automated alice - very kick ass... a little hard to read on occasion, but does the most interesting take on luis caroll's writing style and combines the world he created in vurt and pollen with it. needle in the groove - non-liner writting style supposedly informed by the idea of 'mixing', ie. dj'ing. revolves around the manchester punk scene and has lots of historical references to it. not his best work tho. pixel juice - ultra awsome! short stories and experimental writing. corbalingus(sp?) - more experiments on text deconstruction... very cool. i haven't read "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom" but is sounds cool, and if i can get it for free - totally :) -s On Fri, 2003-04-04 at 13:55, Aaron D Meyers wrote:
quoted 62 lines I will second the Jeff Noon. Vurt was amazing, Pollen was better. Haven't read any of> I will second the Jeff Noon. Vurt was amazing, Pollen was better. Haven't read any of his more recent stuff, but I want to! > > While we are pimping out our favorite Sci Fi, one guy I saw missing on the lists was Cory Doctorow. He's a new guy on the scene, but definitely really good. He recently published a great novel called "Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom". Takes place in Disneyland in trans/posthuman (no death) time. Money doesn't exist and instead the world operates on a sort of fluid system of cultural currency and reputation called "whoofie". > > Anyway, one of the coolest things about the book is that not only was it published in hardcover, but its also avaliable for download entirely for free in a plethora of formats. Download it here: http://www.craphound.com/down/ > > It operates on this interestiing derivative of copyright that I don't know enough to talk about but you can find more about here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/ > > Maybe there is something for music labels to glean from this. > > -Aaron > > > > > Jeff Noon - writes books that take place in an alternate near- > > future Manchester, where people > > do 'feathers': psychedelics delivered on some sort-of a > > feather-thingy: Noon's stuff is very > > 'magical'. ;) 'Vurt' and 'Pollen' are his first two and > > both get into the feather thing, > > 'Vurt' more-so. 'Pollen' is the Persephone trip, but done > > 21st Century foxy! > > (***!!!IDM content > > alert!!!***) Noon's 'Needle to the Groove' is very cool: some > > kids in a band: dj and musicians: > > the remixes are created by running the sound through a > > liquid, which is enclosed in > > an orb in the mixing board, and remixing is done simply > > by shaking up the liquid > > in the ball: no two remixes are the same! But that > > isn't the ~really~ cool part: > > the liquid can be injected. Into the blood. Of music > > makers. "And we are the dreamers of the dream." ;) > > > > Greg Bear - Speaking of blood and music, 'Blood Music'! Wow! > > Crazy: Bear ends the > > world like no other sf writer has before: turns the end > > inside-out! The noosphere as a > > noose!!! > > > > > > For the Dick-heads on-list: > > here's why PKD looked at the Essene fish and had his 'pink light' > > experience:he was doing this very same thing at the time!: > > http://paulwilliams.com/Pkds.jpg > > > > > > =seek= > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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