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2003-03-11 03:55echomatrix [idm] exploring concepts
├─ 2003-03-11 04:46isaiah Re: [idm] exploring concepts
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└─ 2003-03-11 14:39EggyToast Re: [idm] exploring concepts
2003-03-12 06:06:m. zero [idm] idm-making list
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2003-03-11 03:55echomatrixhi all.. i've been on this list for a couple months, and there hasn't been much besides id
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hi all.. i've been on this list for a couple months, and there hasn't been much besides idle banter so far, maybe it's just been late or whatever... the microsound list has a lot of interesting discussion going on so maybe i can get something started here... i'm curious what my fellow artists are up to, creatively... i'm not trying to steal ideas b/c most of everything has already been done to an extent and now music (it seems to me, i could be wrong) is more about mixing elements in a new way or putting your own twist on things... a lot of my own work, especially my ambient stuff, is very sub- concious.. in that i'm not paying a whole lot of attention to what i'm doing or i don't have much of an idea of what i want when i sit down to make noise.. it just sort of happens on its own... recently though.. i've felt a need to have some sort of concept or at least a method to my madness... so, i've just spent the last several hours browsing though the rephlex, warp, and planet-mu sites just absorbing whatever is there.. reading about what other artists are about, what kind of influences they have.. just sort of exploring in some hope of finding my direction.. so.. i guess i just want to get a discussion started on what sort of concepts/ideas/etc. that other artists are exploring... maybe something to bring this list out of the shitter, 'cause i'm a bit tired of seeing little more than show/tracks/ebay notices and war bullshit that just happens to have [idm] smacked on the front of the subject... later, alexx ______________________________ echomatrix deranged ambient/electronica: www.mp3.com/echomatrix lackeya1@umbc.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-03-11 04:46isaiahalright, check it... this is a terrific question. I work in a similiar manner, i typically
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alright, check it... this is a terrific question. I work in a similiar manner, i typically don't have a set idea when i sit down to create a beat or a patch, but lately i have woken up or just been sitting, drawing and an idea will pop up based on whatever so i'll have to grab it and run. I have a couple hundred hours of sounds i've created but it needs tons of editing, the problem comes when I sit down to do so, and i feel like creating rather than editing, so tangents will take me and i'll push toward a new track. Tons of new tracks, none truly finished.It's actually kind of frightening to finish a track, no? But i've found that one excellent thing to do is not be put off by 'people' which means friends/girls/parents/etc... who would not be comfortable hearing or commenting on the stuff you create. Beat box when you feel the mood just don't get into thinking you HAVE to sound a certain way. The best stuff i've ever made has born through accidents, 'fuckups' and just wanking off with the synth or mic. Depending on what you want to do with your music, the best approach, imo, is to completely eschew other folks opinions, even mates...everyone likes something different, well sort of, and realistically, if folks like what you do, fine, if not fine too. just make sure it gets out to some sort of channel.... making art for money will often lead to mediocrity, if that's the sole intent, unless you've got killer connections. alright, enough of the wankery, time to get back to the salt mines.. pc isaiah another great thing is to collaborate with tons of people.Force them to sit a sec and add ideas, if they're trite or cliched, let the person know, you may not keep the friend, but their life will change from hearing examples and ideas that challenge mediocrity and sheer laziness. anyway, so where can we hear some of your tracks? --- echomatrix <lackeya1@umbc.edu> wrote:
quoted 68 lines hi all..> hi all.. > > i've been on this list for a couple months, and > there hasn't > been much besides idle banter so far, maybe it's > just been > late or whatever... > > the microsound list has a lot of interesting > discussion going > on so maybe i can get something started here... > > i'm curious what my fellow artists are up to, > creatively... i'm > not trying to steal ideas b/c most of everything has > already > been done to an extent and now music (it seems to > me, i > could be wrong) is more about mixing elements in a > new way > or putting your own twist on things... > > a lot of my own work, especially my ambient stuff, > is very sub- > concious.. in that i'm not paying a whole lot of > attention to what > i'm doing or i don't have much of an idea of what i > want when i > sit down to make noise.. it just sort of happens on > its own... > recently though.. i've felt a need to have some sort > of concept > or at least a method to my madness... > so, i've just spent the last several hours browsing > though the > rephlex, warp, and planet-mu sites just absorbing > whatever > is there.. reading about what other artists are > about, what kind > of influences they have.. just sort of exploring in > some hope of > finding my direction.. > > so.. i guess i just want to get a discussion started > on what sort > of concepts/ideas/etc. that other artists are > exploring... maybe > something to bring this list out of the shitter, > 'cause i'm a bit > tired of seeing little more than show/tracks/ebay > notices and > war bullshit that just happens to have [idm] smacked > on the front > of the subject... > > later, > alexx > > ______________________________ > echomatrix > > deranged ambient/electronica: > www.mp3.com/echomatrix > > lackeya1@umbc.edu > > >
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2003-03-11 05:47echomatrixi totally agree that it's sometimes frightening to finish a track.. but sometimes a piece
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Tue, 11 Mar 2003 00:47:39 -0500
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i totally agree that it's sometimes frightening to finish a track.. but sometimes a piece can never be finished.. but when the aim is to release the material.. there was a quote i heard one time.. i probably have it all wrong but the basic idea was that a piece of art is never finished but only taken away from the artist... something like that.. but i have the same habit as far as writing goes.. always getting new ideas or screwing around but never feel like working on things that i've already started... of course, it never gets me more than a hd full of un-finished reason tracks, hehe... as far as my work goes.. just about everything i've done over the last few years musically (ambient, experimental, etc..) is on www.mp3.com/echomatrix and some of my visual stuff (drawings, digital noodlings, scattered stuff) is on deviantart under the same name... download all you like, since they're all up for that and any feedback you want to give me would be great. -alexx
quoted 47 lines alright, check it...> alright, check it... > > this is a terrific question. I work in a similiar > manner, i typically don't have a set idea when i sit > down to create a beat or a patch, but lately i have > woken up or just been sitting, drawing and an idea > will pop up based on whatever so i'll have to grab it > and run. I have a couple hundred hours of sounds i've > created but it needs tons of editing, the problem > comes when I sit down to do so, and i feel like > creating rather than editing, so tangents will take me > and i'll push toward a new track. Tons of new tracks, > none truly finished.It's actually kind of frightening > to finish a track, no? > But i've found that one excellent thing to do is not > be put off by 'people' which means > friends/girls/parents/etc... who would not be > comfortable hearing or commenting on the stuff you > create. Beat box when you feel the mood just don't get > into thinking you HAVE to sound a certain way. The > best stuff i've ever made has born through accidents, > 'fuckups' and just wanking off with the synth or mic. > Depending on what you want to do with your music, the > best approach, imo, is to completely eschew other > folks opinions, even mates...everyone likes something > different, well sort of, and realistically, if folks > like what you do, fine, if not fine too. just make > sure it gets out to some sort of channel.... > > making art for money will often lead to mediocrity, if > that's the sole intent, unless you've got killer > connections. > > alright, enough of the wankery, time to get back to > the salt mines.. > > pc > isaiah > > another great thing is to collaborate with tons of > people.Force them to sit a sec and add ideas, if > they're trite or cliched, let the person know, you may > not keep the friend, but their life will change from > hearing examples and ideas that challenge mediocrity > and sheer laziness. > > anyway, so where can we hear some of your tracks?
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2003-03-11 14:39EggyToast> so.. i guess i just want to get a discussion started on what sort > of concepts/ideas/et
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quoted 2 lines so.. i guess i just want to get a discussion started on what sort> so.. i guess i just want to get a discussion started on what sort > of concepts/ideas/etc. that other artists are exploring...
Not to be weird, but most of the music discussion has split off into other lists, namely the idm-making list. You may have a better discussion over there. That said, I've simply been enjoying the fact that i finally got my sequencing computer up and running again. The harddrive died right before xmas and I didn't replace it until last week. Then i realized that I had cannibalized the cd drive for another computer, so I was forced to go buy another one. so now I'm just working on the backlog of winter. derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-03-12 06:06:m. zeroyeah. um, i haven't been paying attention i don't think, because i'm positive the address
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yeah. um, i haven't been paying attention i don't think, because i'm positive the address for the idm-making list has been posted here about a thousand times since i've been reading the list, but i can't for the life of me remember what it is. anyone care to repost it? ::braces for impact of thrown, rotted fruits:: :justin http://posthoc.org/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-03-12 15:10EggyToast:m. zero said: > yeah. um, i haven't been paying attention i don't think, because i'm > po
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quoted 5 lines yeah. um, i haven't been paying attention i don't think, because i'm> yeah. um, i haven't been paying attention i don't think, because i'm > positive the address for the idm-making list has been posted here about > a thousand times since i've been reading the list, but i can't for the > life of me remember what it is. anyone care to repost it? ::braces > for impact of thrown, rotted fruits::
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