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(quantazelle) [[[[from the modsquare interview----"I think more revolutionary things will be done with computers when you're working close to the language of the computer. I think it's sadly ironic that these emulation programs call themselves "Logic" when they seem so far removed from that actual level of the computer."]]]] i wonder if she's ever attempted programming in assembler or writing dsp code? not only is it extremely time consuming but the entire situation is static! In terms of making sounds/music the way to really create 'revolutionary' output is to have some semblance of realtime control. Pick up a copy of supercollider(oh wait, she's anti-mac also) well then try one of the csound clones, its ridiculous and miserable coding out long instruments and then coding out the score to run in them, and the music? well, you'll just have to wait for it to compile....;( Now max/msp is quite nice and gives low level access to loops and programmable filters and whatnot, but it seems by quantazelle's standards the gui would be far too removed or just a long sentence of metaphors holding you back from the 'true' magic that takes place in the microprocessor. Logic: the program is built with logic, the program runs with logic, and the most logical thing to do when making music is to work in a manner which allows the time domain aspect of music to be manageable in a timely fashion. I suppose for those who'd rather spend more time coding/debugging/and compiling then to hell with abstractions. the thing is, computer logic is actually an abstraction from human thought and action....just in a different direction, so if you're a human, well you better enjoy abstracting away! also, if you want to work at the absolute lower level of the processor, buy a nord lead/nord modular or any electronic music gear(software synths do it too). you can instantly touch the glory level of dsp logic...and if you want to sequence them in complicated ways well, with logic, max/msp or even a free gnu linux seqeuncer, you can do so and maintain extreme levels of control over the in/output. quantazelle has nice ideas, they just seem a bit naive. i guess i felt the same way at one time, which led to massive amounts of wasted(well not really wasted, i guess, but fairly unproductive) time with supercollider, csound, and c++/java libraries. who really gives a fuck, maybe its the blue hair and dress and the bullshit about collaberating and speaking of herself in 3rd person. but thats way way beside the point. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org