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very similar with my live set, except i don't use a computer

quoted 10 lines and there is no song sequencing whatsoever. rather its a "mix-n-match" of

>and there is no song sequencing whatsoever. rather its a "mix-n-match" of >different pattern-based loops that i sequence onboard on 3-6 pieces of >gear. (quasimidi 309, sirius, korg e-series, sometimes i use an mmt8 to >sequence virus and other synths) .. and i would really say, this is how ya >do it! this is about as live as it gets barring hiring a band! so i >definitely admire your idea for using fruityloops. but of course i'm more >of the mindset that you shouldn't sequence _ANY_ song, instead just have a >set of patterns that you want to play and then mix them live. have you >considered that? gives a lot of freedom for spontaneity. >

To hell with that. This pattern based mentality is the reason I've lost interest in almost all dance music, intelligent or otherwise. It only makes any sense to me anymore when I'm pilled off my face. (When, admittedly, it makes a hell of a lot of sense) These days the only presequenced patterns I use live (and increasingly while recording) are drum patterns. Everything else I try to play live and I try to get as many heads doing this as possible, and as many fiucking with the signals with effects as possible. The results are very grateful dead gone wrong, but in a live capacity it can work with a lot of practice, because people don't expect perfection. Shut up hew. Hew. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

ok, i know the "live performance" thread comes up a lot, but this one is different... i was wondering what the best methods and setup for an idm live performance would be.. im considering getting a powerbook (heh heh, i hate laptop performances, but i also hate lugging synths).. what the best software to do live improv with is (that is stable), good combinations with small gear, etc.. also do startup idm acts get paid at all? or even booked very easily? any help is much appreciated

So while we're on Reason, first let me say that it is indeed an amazing program. Secondly, I've been trying to drive reason with a Midi keyboard and I'm getting a really small but inhibiting amount of lag between the time i press the key and the time it comes out of my computer. In the preferences, I noticed that there wa some kind of 98ms latency in some box (not near my PC right now) and that seems like its probably an accurate reading of the lag I'm feeling. Are there any settings that might work around this? Any chance that a USB-based midi controller would beat the lag? -Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: shift8 <shift8@dnai.com> Date: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 5:35 pm Subject: Re: [idm] live performance

quoted 53 lines well.... your question's not really different, but live

> well.... your question's not really different, but live > performance w/ > laptops is totally doable. (imho) > > for loop-base try 'live' - i don't use it, but folks say it's really > cool, and i've heard interesting things from folks using it. > > for synth/controller base, try 'reason' - what can i say, it's a > $10KxNstudio in a computer. you can even turn the rack arround > and do manual > cabling on the instrurments and sound deck. if you would like to > improvwith it, set a loop point to 1-4 measures and play into it > w/ a > controller, use the mouse / mute-solo btns etc to edit on the fly > (wishthey would cut that stop recording on select delete 'feature' > in the > next release...) super duper program from people that are snowed > in most > of the year it seems :) > > there are *so* many programs out there. look arround! > > -star > > On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 20:39, CAPOIIEE@aol.com wrote: > > ok, i know the "live performance" thread comes up a lot, but > this one is > > different... > > > > i was wondering what the best methods and setup for an idm live > performance > > would be.. im considering getting a powerbook (heh heh, i hate > laptop > > performances, but i also hate lugging synths).. what the best > software to do > > live improv with is (that is stable), good combinations with > small gear, > > etc.. > > > > also do startup idm acts get paid at all? or even booked very > easily? any > > help is much appreciated > -- > ~->star morin > ~->shift8@dnai.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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reduce the latency (with some track playing) to the lowest possible position, while retaining a click-free sound. keep it as low as possible. that will make the control more real-time. now, depending on your system specs (and most importantly, of your sound card), you can reduce this to around 40ms on a regular soundcard, or to something like 2 to 10ms on ASIO. anything below 20ms, though, is considered optimal, because hardware latency is somewhere around this value (if i'm not mistaken here). however, 40ms - if you don't have ASIO support - is a confortable enough value to play with (sometimes), so don't worry if you can't get way below this. hope it helps... Frederico Oliveira Enough Records // enoughrecords.com_ Stylevictim // stylevictim.com_ ----- Original Message -----

quoted 1 line So while we're on Reason, first let me say that it is indeed an amazing

> So while we're on Reason, first let me say that it is indeed an amazing

program. Secondly, I've been trying to drive reason with a Midi keyboard and I'm getting a really small but inhibiting amount of lag between the time i press the key and the time it comes out of my computer. In the preferences, I noticed that there wa some kind of 98ms latency in some box (not near my PC right now) and that seems like its probably an accurate reading of the lag I'm feeling. Are there any settings that might work around this? Any chance that a USB-based midi controller would beat the lag?

quoted 2 lines -Aaron

> > -Aaron

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