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2002-07-23 20:03Jonathan Osborne [idm] Re: Ae
└─ 2002-07-25 11:57Colin Buttimer Re: [idm] Re: Ae
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2002-07-23 20:03Jonathan Osborne> I think anyone that says, autechre must be cheap snobby and lazy for not > having gimmic
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quoted 12 lines I think anyone that says, autechre must be cheap snobby and lazy for not> I think anyone that says, autechre must be cheap snobby and lazy for not > having gimmicky life-preserver visuals at their show, never had a clue about > their music to begin with at all. Anyone that thinks Amber is their best > album, and shrugs off the evolution of Confield, doesnt have a clue anymore, > anyone that would get the dvd and just skip to the videos with minimal > interest in the tracks themselves, probably will never get a clue. On one > hand, I am kind of suprised, but on another, I am not suprised by these > benignmizings at all. > > "Hey people, lets go to that autechre concert for a real nice night out on > the town where we can be social and see cool light shows and artsy abstract > visuals and where I can wear my cool IDM fashion gear..."
I always find it amusing when someone says another person doesn't "get" the music (or "doesn't have a clue," according to what you said). Without becoming too philosophical, what is there to "get?" I've listened to music as long as I can remember, but I can't figure out what there is to "get." I listen to what I enjoy. Having said that, I rarely listen to Confield, LP5, EP7, or much of anything post-Tri Repetae. I respect these works for their sheer inventiveness and creativity; they certainly are very advanced, intricate and unique. However, in my opinion, Autechre (and other artists) seem to make music for themselves. In other words, they make what THEY like -- and they don't care if you like it. This is where my respect for them really comes from. They don't seem to be trying to please anyone. Miles Davis did a lot of the same types of things in his fusion explorations of the 70s. He just made music he liked, stuff that came from his heart and imagination, and was uninterested in what others had to say. That's artistry, in my opinion. I don't feel like I'm somehow "clueless" because I don't enjoy a lot of recent Autechre output (though there are many tracks I really dig). I think their work has really gone down a one-way forest road, twisting and tangling upon itself, never to see daylight again. I just don't get the same emotional feeling from Confield as I do from Tri Repetae. I respect, not enjoy, new Autechre. forcasa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-25 11:57Colin Buttimer> seem to be trying to please anyone. Miles Davis did a lot of the same types > of > thing
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quoted 5 lines seem to be trying to please anyone. Miles Davis did a lot of the same types> seem to be trying to please anyone. Miles Davis did a lot of the same types > of > things in his fusion explorations of the 70s. He just made music he liked, > stuff that came from his heart and imagination, and was uninterested in what > others had to say. That's artistry, in my opinion.
Miles was bigtime keen on increasing his black audience in the 70s - see some of the advertising for On The Corner, done by Columbia as result of Miles' urging. How he went about it musically is fascinatingly strange because he just wouldn't take the easy route of straightahead funk. All the best, Colin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org