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◇ merged from 2 subjects: i wrote about 3rd world but it went above your head · idm politics
2002-02-06 03:56[idm] idm politics
└─ 2002-02-06 14:37Mxyzptlk Re: [idm] idm politics
2002-02-06 17:14Re: [idm] idm politics
└─ 2002-02-06 17:55s r [idm] i wrote about 3rd world but it went above your head
└─ 2002-01-16 23:11excm. prin. fuminaro konoye Re: [idm] i wrote about 3rd world but it went above your head
2002-02-06 19:11Ebola 3 Re: [idm] idm politics
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2002-02-06 03:56CAPOIIEE@aol.comafter watching a decent ammount of gay bashing and bickering over drug use ive come to won
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after watching a decent ammount of gay bashing and bickering over drug use ive come to wonder what are the political views of the average idmmer? i for one am liberal and a bit of an anti globalization and anti sprawl activist.. any other idm activists out there?
2002-02-06 14:37MxyzptlkNothing personal, but given the general tenor of the list, is this a wise thread to birth?
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Nothing personal, but given the general tenor of the list, is this a wise thread to birth? jeff At 09:56 PM 2/5/2002, CAPOIIEE@aol.com wrote:
quoted 6 lines after watching a decent ammount of gay bashing and bickering over drug use>after watching a decent ammount of gay bashing and bickering over drug use >ive come to wonder what are the political views of the average idmmer? >i for one am liberal and a bit of an anti globalization and anti sprawl >activist.. > >any other idm activists out there?
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2002-02-06 17:14Gaiatekztur214@aol.comanti-globalization, yea, i give a rats ass, honestly i do...hmm...i wonder if warp CDs are
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anti-globalization, yea, i give a rats ass, honestly i do...hmm...i wonder if warp CDs are pressed by 6 year olds in indonesia....in any case, to avoid payrolling these corporate monoliths, ie nike, disney, citibank et al...ya gotta be pretty dedicated..the idm-makers lot sem to be able to focus their energy quite well...but i dunno if you/me/i/us/we can alter the views of those on the list...iM all for opening up peoples eyes to the real world around them (via fast food nation discussion, numerous web pages, videos, performances, protests etc) but i dont think this is the place to do it...Oh yea, WHOEVER WROTE THAT BIT ABOUT 3RD WORLD COUNTIES PRODUCING DATED/BORING/HOPELESS MUSIC IS AN ABSOLUTE ASS, AN ASS ABSOLUTELY...i mean seriously you need help tidewatergemfish --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-06 17:55s rit is a fact that 3rd world is not producing things that we use. they manufacture them, li
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it is a fact that 3rd world is not producing things that we use. they manufacture them, like press cd-s maybe but your idiocy comes from not realizing that 3rd world is a victim of what is going on not the originator of the problem the fact that 3rd world music is substandard to western produced is of the same nature that people are getting killed in India because of some US chemical plant. it means trouble to us, you loonie! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-16 23:11excm. prin. fuminaro konoyenow that you have surfaced to produce an almost cogent enough reply for dissection... and
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now that you have surfaced to produce an almost cogent enough reply for dissection... and although i am of course not convinced you are earnest... to debunk your idle prattling: 1.) 3rd world music is not "substandard", you have not produced any arguments to that end nor any examples of this; 2.) you really can't have a discussion by calling people idiots, much less by pointing out idiocy where there is none to be had, and even much less by looking unintelligent yourself; 3.) you repeat statements like "3rd world music is substandard..." over and over again, still without any supporting arguments, as if repetition itself was some sort of support; 4.) the vague socioeconomic problems you allude to probably have more to do with your present incapacity for discussion than with industrial accidents in any part of the world; 5.) you attempt to associate some very different "ideas", both of which may be entirely fictitious, through something that doesn't remotely resemble logic at all; i know the first, "3rd world music is substandard", is entirely false, for starters... after that, you decry u.s. foreign holdings as having negative effects on other societies, and then you reveal a personal attitude of pseudo-colonization by exclaiming "it means trouble to us"... i can't explain how you think music-making is in some way affected by the artifacts of your mode of discussion, nor can i explain who you believe that figurative "us" is; 6.) you speak from a saddeningly egocentric point of view, as if any community, not just this one, necessarily only included citizens of certain or the "first world" countries you apparently limit your admiration to. it frightens me to imagine what sort of standards you may adhere to. to sum it up, you have no idea of what you are talking about, and hardly any idea of how to talk at all. the way of life of people in another country should not be judged only by one group's or one person's socioeconomic standards. even more so when you seem to ignore completely any other way of life outside of yours (which has revealed itself to be more "underdeveloped" than any number of "obscure" countries). if i believed myself to form only part of a certain country, zone or "world", i would concentrate even harder on learning more about the place where i lived and the places i had yet to see... you sound like you know very little, or put what you may know to very scarce use... as it is, you are only making a bad name for yourself, when you likely wish most to accomplish the exact opposite... this is, ideally, a place where people come to say intelligent things, and where i believe there are a lot of good minds. if you cannot find it in yourself to stop wasting your time, i suggest you remove yourself. On Wednesday, February 6, 2002, at 11:55 , s r wrote:
quoted 26 lines it is a fact that 3rd world is not producing> it is a fact that 3rd world is not producing > things that we use. > > they manufacture them, like press cd-s maybe > > > but your idiocy comes from not realizing that > 3rd world is a victim of what is going on not the > originator of the problem > > the fact that 3rd world music is substandard to > western produced is of the same nature that > people are getting killed in India because of > some US chemical plant. > > it means trouble to us, you loonie! > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-02-06 19:11Ebola 3I'm a left-anarchist (communitarian anarchist, anarcho-communist, libertarian socialist, e
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I'm a left-anarchist (communitarian anarchist, anarcho-communist, libertarian socialist, ect.) in political theory, but I'm not much of an activist. An office-chair anarchist, if you will. Well, not an office chair, a really uncomfortable dorm-room chair. Ebola np: Front Line Assembly _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org