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Well, it does. What a complete letdown. I realize diversity and progress have never been BoC's strengths, but this is really going too far. It's like a compilation of throwaway b-side tracks from their past 6 years of releases. Not a single track jumped out at me. It's a seemingly endless cycle of boring 4-minute track, even more boring 1-minute filler track, boring 4-minute track, boring 1-minute filler track.. on and on in a mind-numbing, soul-crushing downward spiral of mediocrity. Way to make the most of that ~4 years between albums, guys. It REALLY shows. Lazy bastards.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i think tha BoC are geniuses. i loved geogaddi and it's been on constant rotation since i downloaded a bootlegged copy, burned it onto a cd and put it into my cd player. Rip. Mix. Burn. gotta love Apple Inc. the main issue i have with them is their homosexuality. i just can't abide gayness. it really does nothing towards legitimizing this type of music. morrisey was a failure and so are these guys. but i love their music. i think i have issues. gay people should pack it in, or rather STOP packing it in, cause that's their problem! peace grady On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 02:34 AM, Danny wrote: Well, it does. What a complete letdown. I realize diversity and progress have never been BoC's strengths, but this is really going too far. It's like a compilation of throwaway b-side tracks from their past 6 years of releases. Not a single track jumped out at me. It's a seemingly endless cycle of boring 4-minute track, even more boring 1-minute filler track, boring 4-minute track, boring 1-minute filler track.. on and on in a mind-numbing, soul-crushing downward spiral of mediocrity. Way to make the most of that ~4 years between albums, guys. It REALLY shows. Lazy bastards.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Grady Stiles wrote:

quoted 4 lines the main issue i have with them is their homosexuality. i just can't

> the main issue i have with them is their homosexuality. i just can't > abide gayness. it really does nothing towards legitimizing this type of > music. morrisey was a failure and so are these guys. but i love their > music. i think i have issues.

how the hell do you know that? bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/312/9708 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 23:34, Danny wrote: <trollage snipped> PLEASE DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS. -- Kevin Murphy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

haha! i've yet to hear the new BoC... but this post gets my vote for "best idm list post of the year thus far"... either provocateurism or idiocy is alive and well... regardless, it's damned entertaining. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grady Stiles" <gradystiles@mac.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 2:36 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Am I the first to say that Geogaddi sucks?

quoted 51 lines i think tha BoC are geniuses. i loved geogaddi and it's been on

> > i think tha BoC are geniuses. i loved geogaddi and it's been on > constant rotation since i downloaded a bootlegged copy, burned it onto a > cd and put it into my cd player. Rip. Mix. Burn. gotta love Apple Inc. > > the main issue i have with them is their homosexuality. i just can't > abide gayness. it really does nothing towards legitimizing this type of > music. morrisey was a failure and so are these guys. but i love their > music. i think i have issues. > > gay people should pack it in, or rather STOP packing it in, cause that's > their problem! > > > > peace > > grady > > > > > > On Tuesday, February 5, 2002, at 02:34 AM, Danny wrote: > > Well, it does. What a complete letdown. I realize diversity and > progress have never been BoC's strengths, but this is really going too > far. It's like a compilation of throwaway b-side tracks from their past > 6 years of releases. Not a single track jumped out at me. It's a > seemingly endless cycle of boring 4-minute track, even more boring > 1-minute filler track, boring 4-minute track, boring 1-minute filler > track.. on and on in a mind-numbing, soul-crushing downward spiral of > mediocrity. > > Way to make the most of that ~4 years between albums, guys. It REALLY > shows. > > Lazy bastards.. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 7 lines the main issue i have with them is their

> > the main issue i have with them is their > homosexuality. i just can't > > abide gayness. it really does nothing towards > legitimizing this type of > > music. morrisey was a failure and so are these > guys. but i love their > > music. i think i have issues.

Personally, I like gay people. I think it's always a good idea to keep a couple of queer friends around - they tend to have good fashion sense, and have been known to say something interesting from time to time. (eg. Matmos) I might point at this point that, in addition to being high on cocaine for most of the 70s (please see the "idm & substances" thread if you're confused), David Bowie also played with other men, behaving bisexually and proclaiming at one point that he was completely gay. Of course, now he's not anymore and instead is married to Iman and has a little daughter. How much straighter can you get? So, to sum up, gay people nice to have around, but I wouldn't want to be one, and David Bowie came up in two separate IDM threads in one day! This message was brought to you by the number 6, the greek sign for Delta, and the letter Y. (And we all know what that says when you put it together.) BTW, this was all just a joke. Actually, I hate gay people, and wish they would stop having sex with me. .adam __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

his music suck 99%, the only good track he made, at least partially good- Red Shoes. Actually it is a common knoweledge among critics that his recordings are not of a high level- you can check even smth so mainstreamish as allmusic.com. My experience with listening to his muzac is rather less rewarding then allmusic opinion. To me he was a great marketer, who parazited on his gay affairs and on the fact that almost anyone with brains and somewhat musical abilities could ve make it in times when r-n-roll just emerged. It is like bill-$-gates deal to buy DirtyOperation-System known as DOS for $15000 and selling it to IBM ... So, Bowie fame is a matter of him being too long in a spot light and jumping there up and down with his naked ass shining my opinion - he stinks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

his music suck 99%, the only good track he made, at least partially good- Red Shoes. Actually it is a common knoweledge among critics that his recordings are not of a high level- you can check even smth so mainstreamish as allmusic.com. My experience with listening to his muzac is rather less rewarding then allmusic opinion. To me he was a great marketer, who parazited on his gay affairs and on the fact that almost anyone with brains and somewhat musical abilities could ve make it in times when r-n-roll just emerged. It is like bill-$-gates deal to buy DirtyOperation-System known as DOS for $15000 and selling it to IBM ... So, Bowie fame is a matter of him being too long in a spot light and jumping there up and down with his naked ass shining my opinion - he stinks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Regarding Bowie, you have to consider not only the time he was recording but also the sheer volume of work he has produced. Say what you want about him or about his music, but his influence, particularly in the mid-late 70's, to electronic music is fairly significant.

quoted 2 lines his music suck 99%, the only good track he made, at least

> his music suck 99%, the only good track he made, at least > partially good- Red Shoes.

Interesting that you like only the most accessible, most commercial work of his.

quoted 3 lines Actually it is a common knoweledge among critics that his

> Actually it is a common knoweledge among critics that his > recordings are not of a high level- you can check even > smth so mainstreamish as allmusic.com.

There are so many facets to music, recordings, and sound that this comment doesn't make a lot of sense to me. In fact, some of the most notable catalysts in modern music have less to do with slick production and engineering and more to do with new ideas and lo-fi sensibility. Witness house music and the beginnings of Detroit techno for an example of this (also punk, ska, rock and roll, etc.). Check out Station to Station (1976) or Low (1977) -- these are two of my favorite albums of Bowie's. --- Tom Butcher --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, no more rugby, ok? wrote:

quoted 5 lines haha!

> haha! > i've yet to hear the new BoC... > but this post gets my vote for "best idm list post of the year thus far"... > either provocateurism or idiocy is alive and well... > regardless, it's damned entertaining.

it's the same shit happening on and on and on. it was so with the new autechre, with 'drukqs' and now. it's not amusing, it's tiring, and very RIDICULOUS. full stop. bias. http://bias.underground.hu xpn-voice-added-contact:/dev/70/312/9708 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org