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could someone possibly provide me with any information regarding While? ive just had the pleasure of hearing the release on Musik Aus Strom and instantly fell in love. have they/he/she released anything else under any other label under any other pseudonyms? thanks -brian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

there is a full-length on chocolate industries titled 'lock'. cant compare it to the mas as i dont know if i have listened to the whole thing yet. cl On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 Mannowarr@aol.com wrote:

quoted 14 lines could someone possibly provide me with any information regarding While?

> could someone possibly provide me with any information regarding While? > ive just had the pleasure of hearing the release on Musik Aus Strom and > instantly fell in love. have they/he/she released anything else under any > other label under any other pseudonyms? > > thanks > > -brian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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While is from Maryland I think. As mentioned before he's got a CD/2 X 12" available from Chocolate Ind. called "Lock." I know its still available in both formats from WarpMart, but seems to be drying up elsewhere. Its quite good and one of the best this year so far I think. The CD has three tracks not on the double EP. The double EP has an exclusive cut (a remix of "Lock") as well. The label says the tracks were recorded '96-'98 which makes them roughly contemporary to the Seek EP on MaS . I just got Seek recently and don't currently have a turntable at my disposal and can't definitely offer a comparison. Anyone have any guesses as to which track on Mask 400 belongs to While? My best guess would be A1. Tom - Tom Aikin taikin@ucsd.edu Undergraduate, Department of Cognitive Science, UCSD 4344 Vision Drive, San Diego, CA 92121 "In the final end he won the war, after losing every battle." - Bob Dylan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

could someone possibly provide me with any information regarding While? ive just had the pleasure of hearing the release on Musik Aus Strom and instantly fell in love. have they/he/she released anything else under any other label under any other pseudonyms? thanks -brian I know that they/he/she have a full length CD on Chocolate Industries that was released a few months ago. Other than that i don't know much else. Hopefully someone else does....... Keith --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines there is a full-length on chocolate industries titled 'lock'.

> there is a full-length on chocolate industries titled 'lock'. > cant compare it to the mas as i dont know if i have listened to > the whole thing yet.

"Lock" and "Seek" are very similar releases. From what I understand they are basically contemporary with each other in terms of when they were made. (On "Lock" it says 96-98) They certainly sound very similar. Somebody already mentioned, but.. supplies of "Lock" are currently drying up for some reason. (this only came OUT a few months ago..) I'm hoping they keep this in print, but I suppose you can never count on that. Funny, I see copies of "seek" more than I do "while" now. I would say snap them up while you still can. He (she?) has that sort of slow funk groove going, melecholy melodies, but a fairly dark, or at least somber, feeling overall. Simplistic percussion, pretty low BPM. While certainly doesn't have that "sparkling" IDM feel that so much music does nowadays, which actually makes for a very refreshing listen. Somebody mentioned him being from Maryland. I don't know about that, but I do know he doesn't have any other material out under pseudonyms. With no new material produced in almost 3 years, one has to wonder... but I'm satisfied to think that he's just another example of a recluse electronic musician. later Andrew -- -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

While biography gleaned from Musik Aus Strom pages: While While is a one-man musical project hailing from the baltimore/washington area of the usa. while has been recording since '92, starting with experimental "industrial" stuff in the vein of throbbing gristle or spk, and after getting into warp's "artificial intelligence" series in '94, moved to a more "idm" sort of sound. after finally getting around to sending out a few tapes in 1997, skam requested a track "nickel" for the mask 3 comp, and planned a 12" to follow...whether or not these will ever be released remains to be seen. other planned releases include the "seek" ep for musik aus strom, a 12" for diskono out of scotland, and a track on the diskono comp. "i'm so bored with the usa"... -While, about a year ago apparantly, now the Diskono 12" is off, who knows about the skam one, but eventually there should be a 2x12" titled 'lock' on Chocolate Ind. sometime in the future.. END - Tom Aikin taikin@ucsd.edu Undergraduate, Department of Cognitive Science, UCSD "In the final end he won the war, after losing every battle." - Bob Dylan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines ago..) I'm hoping they keep this in print, but I suppose you can never

> ago..) I'm hoping they keep this in print, but I suppose you can never > count on that. Funny, I see copies of "seek" more than I do > "while" now. I would say snap them up while you still can.

Typo.. this should read, "I see copies of 'seek' more than I do 'lock' now. " Andrew -- -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

does anyone know while's full (real) name? i'm writing up an interview and i sort of need it. i remember reading it in the second issue of grooves when mr. kidwell wrote up a review of seek, but can't seem to recall it anymore. any help would be appreciated. cheers, robert _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

while is one guy from baltimore/washington dc. if you liked 'even' i would definately recommend everything else he has released, in particular 'lock' which i believe to be even stronger than 'even'. there' also an interview with him at my site, http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rstanton hope that helps, r. I picked up While's "Even" over the weekend and am quite liking it. Kindareminds me of Disjecta though not as dense and with a bit more of a hip-hopishness to it. Is all their stuff this moody and jagged? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

<<Is all their stuff this moody and jagged?>> The first full track on Even (I guess technically it's the second track--Bin?) really blows me away. While's tendency to use spooky minor keys and vibraphonish timbres over steadily plodding rhythms always conjures up an image of a trans-Saharan caravan for me, especially that track. I swear, I'm suddenly on a camel in the middle of the desert. The Lock EP has a few songs like that, I think B2, C2, D1 ("Trap" and "Shelf" maybe?), but for some reason Even strikes me as a little more mature, at least in that regard. The spooky melodies on Even tend to noodle around a bit more than the more straightforward spooky melodies on Lock, which is a good thing. I don't like the straight-up IDM drumtracks as much and he seems to have more of those on earlier records (like Haze). Although I admit I'm still breaking in Even (at least the second record) after several months and I haven't gotten the new Slip LP yet-- For some reason I don't remember any reviews of that... But for $10 for the CD you can't go wrong. <<also an interview with him at my site, http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rstanton>> I would like to read it, but the menu on that site doesn't work (for me). Maybe I'm just computer lame, or if it's too cool for Netscape (and, ipso facto, too cool for me) that would also explain it. I would also like to browse the archives for reviews of Slip and stuff, because I know there's a While thread here every month, but the older archives are zipped somehow and my computer doesn't want to unzip them. What ever happened to plain text files that everyone can access and enjoy? It's not like they're taking up *that* much memory. Stupid archives. np: Pet Shop Boys - Behavior _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Kevin Ryan @ [mailto:i__oo__@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 12:42 PM > > <<also an interview with him at my site, > http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rstanton>> > > I would like to read it, but the menu on that site doesn't work > (for me). > Maybe I'm just computer lame, or if it's too cool for Netscape (and, ipso > facto, too cool for me) that would also explain it.

Well, it appears he's doing the site with javascript links, which one would hope that Netscape could handle - although I'm just checking with Opera, and they don't work there, either. Regardless, I'm not sure I see why he needs Javascript just to load pages in different frames. Normal targeted links would do the job just as nicely, wouldn't they?

quoted 9 lines I would also like to

> I would also like to > browse the archives for reviews of Slip and stuff, because I know > there's a > While thread here every month, but the older archives are zipped > somehow and > my computer doesn't want to unzip them. What ever happened to plain text > files that everyone can access and enjoy? It's not like they're > taking up > *that* much memory. Stupid archives.

Hmm... they're just gzipped (zipping for Unix (and Linux and stuff)). I think MS' IE does it automatic, and I know WinZip does GZipping. Maybe you're on a Mac? I'm not sure why whatever common internet zipping utils the Mac has wouldn't do gzipping, though - it's not *that* uncommon. They would need to be compressed, though - those IDM archives take up a *LOT* of space! -Adam _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

www.aladdinsw.com's StuffIt Expander (Mac & Win) will do the job nicely. -Mikkel Adam Piontek said at Ò[idm] rstanton's site & idm archives (was re: while)Ó. [Jul/29/2001 15:46]

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> > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Ryan @ [mailto:i__oo__@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 12:42 PM > > > > <<also an interview with him at my site, > > http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~rstanton>> > > > > I would like to read it, but the menu on that site doesn't work > > (for me). > > Maybe I'm just computer lame, or if it's too cool for Netscape (and, > ipso > > facto, too cool for me) that would also explain it. > > Well, it appears he's doing the site with javascript links, which one > would > hope that Netscape could handle - although I'm just checking with Opera, > and > they don't work there, either. Regardless, I'm not sure I see why he > needs > Javascript just to load pages in different frames. Normal targeted links > would do the job just as nicely, wouldn't they? > > > I would also like to > > browse the archives for reviews of Slip and stuff, because I know > > there's a > > While thread here every month, but the older archives are zipped > > somehow and > > my computer doesn't want to unzip them. What ever happened to plain > text > > files that everyone can access and enjoy? It's not like they're > > taking up > > *that* much memory. Stupid archives. > > Hmm... they're just gzipped (zipping for Unix (and Linux and stuff)). I > think MS' IE does it automatic, and I know WinZip does GZipping. Maybe > you're on a Mac? I'm not sure why whatever common internet zipping utils > the Mac has wouldn't do gzipping, though - it's not *that* uncommon. > > They would need to be compressed, though - those IDM archives take up a > *LOT* of space! > > -Adam > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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does anyone know anything about this cat? _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 18 Aug 2002 at 13:56, robert sinewave wrote:

quoted 1 line does anyone know anything about this cat?

> does anyone know anything about this cat?

Very little... it's pretty pointless trying to do a web search on the word "while" :-)) So please post to the list, anybody who's got any info, thanks! I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

an article on while written by robert stanton who posts to this list i think: http://www.groovesmag.com/reviews/while.html a discography: http://www.kompaktkiste.de/while.htm .. .. .. .. .. . . .. . . . paul webb____designer____http://www.digitlondon.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I keep hearing a big buzz about the Akufen remix of Cabaret Voltaire's Nag Nag Nag. I was curious if there are any sites where you can hear samples of it. SCIDM Page http://home.earthlink.net/~efrans/scidm/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

While is one Chris Moore, residing in the East Coast / DC area. There's an interview I conducted with him at http://www.electronicmusicreviews.com Supposedly was supposed to have a new album out, but for whatever reason he was dropped by Chocolate Industries and (to my knowledge) hasn't found a new label yet. It's a shame, too, since I enjoyed his work tremendously. Robert _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org