on 7/17/01 6:13 AM, Philip Sherburne at psherburne@jeevessolutions.com
wrote:
quoted 4 lines Sorry, but I can't resist: you can tell that you don't really
>> Sorry, but I can't resist: you can tell that you don't really
>> know much about music journalism, as the article was written
>> by Simon Reynolds -- who, love him or hate him, is one of the
>> more influential electronic-music journalists out there.
No, cause I really don't pay much attention to who is writting what, more of
what is being said. So I will give credit to my ignorance on this note.
quoted 4 lines Also, maybe you should pay attention: "this genre," in the
>> Also, maybe you should pay attention: "this genre," in the
>> case of US (and especially San Francisco) artists like
>> Clayton, Lesser, Kid606 et al, really has very little to do
>> with Aphex & AE, much less Squarepusher.
I disagree, they might sound different as they should, but they are still
fucking with noises. Gee, I thought that was what AE and RDJ did. Maybe
I am ignorant on that note as well.
quoted 2 lines They're trying to do
>> They're trying to do
>> something a bit different stylistically
good, cause everyone should in my opinion.
quoted 4 lines (and in terms of
>>(and in terms of
>> "branding," seeing that they've all pretty much gone DIY
>> without much support from European labels). (I'm tempted to
>> say pull your head out of the sand:
you mean like you just did?
quoted 2 lines there are in fact other
>> there are in fact other
>> things going on that just Aphex and AE and yes, even Squarepusher.)
Do you think so? I never discredited Kid606, Matmos, or any of those
artists, but being that we (yes, "we" on the list) seem to classify it all
as "IDM" or whatever you want to call it, that is what I was talking about.
When I say IDM, I am not referring to AE, RDJ, or []pshr. I am referring
to them as the pioneers considering they have been doing this for a long
time. When I say IDM, I mean music that takes any kind of intelligence to
appreciate a piece of work, or to even create it. Also, that it isn't the
same mindless crap that most people listen to cause it's easy.
Before you start pointing fingers, no where in my letter did I mention that
I thought AE and RDJ where the only thing happening with this kind of music.
I included them mainly cause the impression I was getting from the article
was that it was more about the music than it was about them using laptops.
It seems like "laptop punk" is what they were calling it only cause so many
use laptops with this kind of music.
Besides, I don't recall that RDJ or []pshr even use laptops, if you want to
get technical.
As I have read the article a second time, I am very aware of the fact that
Kid606, Lesser, or even Matmos are doing something different. Who isn't?
But the fact remains, the article was supposed to be about laptop musicians
and they barely mentioned Autechre. If they were talking about a specific
sound, then why wasn't the article focused on that. The article was pretty
general and vague to discredit other more well known artists of this
particular type of music engineered on laptops.
I didn't say it was a bad article, just that it didn't sound like the person
knew what they were talking about. I could be wrong.
quoted 3 lines Reynolds did comment, in fact, that he tried to develop the
>> Reynolds did comment, in fact, that he tried to develop the
>> argument around this generation's differentiation from "first
>> wave" european producers, but Spin editors cut that part.
Well, then, I guess Spin magazine sucks for doing that and maybe that is why
I got the bogus impression that I did.
-Peter "Pachinko" Schrock-
http://www.mp3.com/pachinko
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