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2001-06-29 14:57Michael Scheer [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
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├─ 2001-06-29 16:02The Chisa Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
├─ 2001-06-29 16:12Future Relic Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
└─ 2001-06-29 19:20Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
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2001-06-29 15:06EggyToast Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
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└─ 2001-06-29 18:17Nintari Man Re: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-06-29 15:49Roman Sturm Aon Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
└─ 2001-06-29 16:13Doug [idm] Do not read until Drukqs is released
2001-06-29 17:43Anig Browl Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-06-29 18:28p h o n k Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-06-29 19:20Dr. Robot Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-06-30 07:17JK Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 05:57Dan John Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
├─ 2001-07-01 06:22Mikkel Eriksen Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
├─ 2001-07-01 14:56thomas shrubsole Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
└─ 2001-07-01 14:58EggyToast Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 07:02Lukas Bergstrom Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 07:32j snod Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 13:25Anig Browl Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 14:19gwen volack Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
└─ 2001-07-01 17:00Chispas De Muerte [idm] rap attack
2001-07-01 15:40Iain Forfar [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 16:33William VanLoo Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 17:45Dan John Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 18:52J. Houde Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-01 23:39ian Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
2001-07-02 00:13Dan John Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
├─ 2001-07-02 00:30Jeremy Axon Re: [idm] who likes rap? we do, we do!
└─ 2001-07-02 00:42Chris West RE: [idm] Aphex Twin, m&m & Phonem
2001-07-02 00:53Erlend Hammer Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
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2001-06-29 14:57Michael ScheerNew album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com. Great day, today. Michae
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New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com. Great day, today. Michael. -- Michael Scheer <listen@autechre.de> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 15:05Adam PiontekAnother major disappointment waiting to happen... (and warprecords.com was probably just b
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Another major disappointment waiting to happen... (and warprecords.com was probably just bombarded with hits, as well :P) -Adam PS - and no, I don't hate *everything* lately... --- Michael Scheer <listen@autechre.de> wrote:
quoted 2 lines New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see> New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see > warprecords.com.
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2001-06-29 16:02The ChisaOn Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote: > New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" -
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On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote:
quoted 1 line New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.> New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.
Man, I heard a 64 kbps bootleg of the first single, "My Fucking Spleen," off of Soulseek two days ago, and fuck, it sucks ass hairs, he's so lost it... (Naw, not really. I just wanted to be the first one to talk shit about it.) m@2zo www.thechisa.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 16:12Future RelicWow, and it's gonna be a double album too. Wicked. Part of me wants to jump up and down wi
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Wow, and it's gonna be a double album too. Wicked. Part of me wants to jump up and down with joy, but the other part is wary of disappointment...ah fuck it, who am I kidding? I'm excited!!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 19:20Brian M. CassHOORAY HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited
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HOORAY HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about, I'd like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new Marumari Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap) are all stuff to look forward to, though mabye with not quite as much enthusiasm as a new APHEX TWIN HOORAY new sqp, new ae, new aphex, wheres u-ziq? On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote:
quoted 13 lines New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.> New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com. > > Great day, today. > > Michael. > > -- > Michael Scheer <listen@autechre.de> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-06-29 19:29atomly["Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu>] > Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap) Jesus. -- ::
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["Brian M. Cass" <kingmob@nmt.edu>]
quoted 1 line Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap)> Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap)
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2001-06-29 15:06EggyToastOn 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote: > New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see w
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On 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote:
quoted 1 line New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.> New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.
QUICK! How do I unsubscribe!?! :D I bet it's going to sound electronic-y :D cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now on the interweb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 15:14phlux@ix.netcom.comQuick someone post their MP3's as Drukqs so you can get your 15 minutes of fame. Rob (who'
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Quick someone post their MP3's as Drukqs so you can get your 15 minutes of fame. Rob (who's not going to download jack shit) EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu> wrote:
quoted 2 lines On 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote:> On 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote: > New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.
QUICK! How do I unsubscribe!?! :D I bet it's going to sound electronic-y :D cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now on the interweb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 18:17Nintari ManOkay, I'll set aside 15 minutes tonight. Thnx! On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 phlux@ix.netcom.com wro
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Okay, I'll set aside 15 minutes tonight. Thnx! On Fri, 29 Jun 2001 phlux@ix.netcom.com wrote:
quoted 39 lines Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:14:51 -0400> Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:14:51 -0400 > From: phlux@ix.netcom.com > To: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu> > Cc: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs > > Quick someone post their MP3's as Drukqs so you can get your > 15 minutes of fame. > > Rob > (who's not going to download jack shit) > EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu> wrote: > > On 29 Jun 2001, Michael Scheer wrote: > > New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com. > > QUICK! How do I unsubscribe!?! :D > > I bet it's going to sound electronic-y > > :D > > cheers, > /derek > > ------- > eggytoast.com > ------- > now on the interweb > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-06-29 15:49Roman Sturm Aon> New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com. > > Great day, today.
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quoted 6 lines New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com.> New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see warprecords.com. > > Great day, today. > > Michael. >
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2001-06-29 16:13DougHere are some form letters for you to copy and paste and send off to the idm mailing list.
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Here are some form letters for you to copy and paste and send off to the idm mailing list. Based on a detailed analysis of past reactions to new warp-related material, our team of highly-skilled analysts have come up with the following 3 choices. (1) What the hell??? What happened to to RDJ? Why can't people just make the same kind of music forever? This is worse than Confield. Aww crap. I DEMAND an apology. I've been listening to RDJ for YEARS!!! How can he do this to me?? What's the deal with Warp? (2) I just got Drukqs today, and man... it's amazing! Easily the best RDJ release ever. Completely over the top non-stop madness. If you don't like it then you just don't understand. (3) I think that I like it, but I'm not sure. Maybe it has to grow on me. I dunno, I don't like it as much as Windowlicker, but it's better than Richard D James and I care because you Do. Dou5g -The 5 is silent. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 17:43Anig BrowlFrom: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> > Another major disappointment waiting to happen..
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quoted 4 lines Another major disappointment waiting to happen...> Another major disappointment waiting to happen... > > > New album by RDJ is to come out - "Drukqs" - see > > warprecords.com.
Perhaps you need some vitamins in your diet :-) I guess it's a case of one man's meat being another's poison, what you see as Warp's 'cerebral' trend suits me OK. I didn't much like the poppy flavour of the earlier SquarePusher stuff. Not that I'm against enjoyable tunes, but I prefer a an agressive edge...guess I like music that sounds 'tough'. Whatever that's supposed to mean... Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 18:28p h o n k----- Original Message ----- From: "Future Relic" <futurerelic@hotmail.com> |who am I kidd
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Future Relic" <futurerelic@hotmail.com> |who am I kidding? I'm excited!!! | this is one of those stupid 'me too' posts. sorry. :) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . p h o n k . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . http://www.phonk.com oo /|\ support / \ afx BOYCOTT MP3.COM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-29 19:20Dr. Robotim pretty excited. weeeeeeee mike ________________________________________________________
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im pretty excited. weeeeeeee mike _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-30 07:17JK"Brian M. Cass" wrote: > HOORAY > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN > > and speaking of stuff thats ou
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"Brian M. Cass" wrote:
quoted 6 lines HOORAY> HOORAY > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN > > and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about, I'd > like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new Marumari > Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap)
EVE:N though it samples rap!%$@ Musicians working in the rap genre have to be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do), and also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT debt to rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc. acceptable to the general populace. Take a look at some of the great rap artists, and you will find an incredibly wealth of musical talent..... Drop some phat beats man.... :P cdin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 05:57Dan JohnSorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap artists? One's th
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Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or that don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the artist is? I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to 'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself will be ruined. Just my two cents :) - Dan J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JK" <k-rad@swbell.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:17 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
quoted 9 lines "Brian M. Cass" wrote:> > > "Brian M. Cass" wrote: > > > HOORAY > > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN > > > > and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about, I'd > > like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new
Marumari
quoted 3 lines Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap)> > Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap) > > EVE:N though it samples rap!%$@ Musicians working in the rap genre
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quoted 1 line be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do),> be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do),
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quoted 1 line also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT debt> also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT debt
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quoted 3 lines rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc.> rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc. > acceptable to the general populace. Take a look at some of the great rap > artists, and you will find an incredibly wealth of musical talent.....
Drop
quoted 9 lines some phat beats man.... :P> some phat beats man.... :P > > cdin > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-07-01 06:22Mikkel EriksenHehe. Hmm Bullfrog has some decent & clever rap (and Kid Koala rules) The Mountain Brother
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Hehe. Hmm Bullfrog has some decent & clever rap (and Kid Koala rules) The Mountain Brothers are also quite clever. I'm too drunk to think of more -Carth/Mikkel Dan John said at ÒRe: [idm] Aphex Twin - DrukqsÓ. [Jul/01/2001 07:57]
quoted 70 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or > that > don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the > artist > is? > > I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and > anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to > 'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of > repetitive > drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. > > I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of > creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think > electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself > will be ruined. > > Just my two cents :) > > - Dan J. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JK" <k-rad@swbell.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:17 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs > > > > > > > > "Brian M. Cass" wrote: > > > > > HOORAY > > > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN > > > > > > and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about, > I'd > > > like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new > Marumari > > > Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap) > > > > EVE:N though it samples rap!%$@ Musicians working in the rap genre > have to > > be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do), > and > > also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT > debt > to > > rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc. > > acceptable to the general populace. Take a look at some of the great rap > > artists, and you will find an incredibly wealth of musical talent..... > Drop > > some phat beats man.... :P > > > > cdin > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-07-01 14:56thomas shrubsole--- Dan John <djohn1@home.com> wrote: > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these
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--- Dan John <djohn1@home.com> wrote: > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these
quoted 6 lines so-called "great" rap> so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from > otherwise classic songs, or that > don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how > "hard done by" the artist > is?
already been replied to a lot, but.... ELECTRO??!! yes, where would autechre, BoC, etc. etc. be without mantronix, bambataa, arthur baker stuff (jonzun crew etc. ), newcleus and so on and so on.... im not going to go into a discussion of how influential old school hip-hop/electro is, coz everyone bloody well knows.... except Dan John . oh well ;) -thomas ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 14:58EggyToastAt 01:57 AM 7/1/2001 -0400, you wrote: >Sorry... but could you give us an example of these
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quoted 4 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap>Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or that >don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the artist >is?
check out deltron 3030, which has kid koala as dj, or del the funky homosapein, for instances of hip hop that's actually hip hop (and not gangsta) as anyone on this list will point out, the music you hear on the radio or mtv isn't always representative of all music. cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now on the interweb --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 07:02Lukas Bergstromy'know, generally i'm not into killfiling. it's much more constructive, i find, to engage
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y'know, generally i'm not into killfiling. it's much more constructive, i find, to engage someone i disagree with, no matter how opposed our views are. but every once in a while, i make an exception. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan John" <djohn1@home.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
quoted 2 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or
that
quoted 1 line don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the> don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the
artist
quoted 5 lines is?> is? > > I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and > anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to > 'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of
repetitive
quoted 27 lines drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.> drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. > > I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of > creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think > electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself > will be ruined. > > Just my two cents :) > > - Dan J. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JK" <k-rad@swbell.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:17 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs > > > > > > > > "Brian M. Cass" wrote: > > > > > HOORAY > > > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN > > > > > > and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about,
I'd
quoted 9 lines like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new> > > like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new > Marumari > > > Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap) > > > > EVE:N though it samples rap!%$@ Musicians working in the rap genre > have to > > be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do), > and > > also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT
debt
quoted 21 lines to> to > > rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc. > > acceptable to the general populace. Take a look at some of the great rap > > artists, and you will find an incredibly wealth of musical talent..... > Drop > > some phat beats man.... :P > > > > cdin > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-07-01 07:32j snodDan John wrote: > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap
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Dan John wrote:
quoted 4 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or that > don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the artist > is?
two words: MOS DEF
quoted 4 lines I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and> I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and > anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to > 'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive > drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.
counter argument, two words: MOS DEF
quoted 4 lines I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of> I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of > creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think > electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself > will be ruined.
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2001-07-01 13:25Anig BrowlFrom: Dan John <djohn1@home.com> > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-c
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quoted 2 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or
that
quoted 1 line don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the> don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the
artist
quoted 1 line is?> is?
I'm no rap expert, but I think there's a lot of interesting stuff out there. I got into it when I was living in a ghetto area in San Francisco, because it seemed to have a lot to say about what was going outside my front door and why. For example there was some 2pac (yes, 2pac) track which my roommate turned me on to which examined the life of a crack dealer - why he got into dealing, how it was benefitting his life in some respects and screwing it up in others. It's easy to dismiss this as self-indulgent/justifying wank, but when these dealers/pimps/hos/etc. are your neighbours and turn out to be real people who have good days and bad days like everyone else, it bears a closer examination. As for rap being crap, 90% of everything is crap, even IDM. Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 14:19gwen volack> >Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One'
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quoted 23 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> >Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or >that >don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the >artist >is? > >I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and >anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to >'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive >drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. > >I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of >creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think >electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself >will be ruined. > >Just my two cents :) > >- Dan J. > >
if anyone on this list is also on the wire list this same argument was had on their and it ended up going nowhere.......by the way: REPETITVE DRIVEL, we'll just forget the SCADS of IDM people who unleash REPETITVE DRIVEL every day chris v _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 17:00Chispas De MuerteIt's a little ironic to me that someone is putting down one of the pioneer musical genres
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It's a little ironic to me that someone is putting down one of the pioneer musical genres of early electronic music. If it wasnt for raps inovation and experimentation we would still be listening to elitist academic boring stuff or disco white people music.You can hear the influence of rap all over IDM, and while there is a lot of crap out there, especially on the radio, it doesnt mean there isnt some really good stuff out there. Of course you are setting yourself up for dissapointment if you listen to the radio or MTV in the first place, but thats the price you pay for bieng a wanker. Check out Anti-pop Consortium or any of the chocalate Industries stuff. --- gwen volack <gvolack@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 46 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these> > > > > > > >Sorry... but could you give us an example of these > so-called "great" rap > >artists? One's that don't rip samples from > otherwise classic songs, or > >that > >don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how > "hard done by" the > >artist > >is? > > > >I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is > an outlet for rage and > >anger geared towards young black males that don't > know any better than to > >'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out > mindless amounts of repetitive > >drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they > 'boned' last night. > > > >I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and > simple. The days of > >creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, > and if you think > >electronic artists should look towards rap as > influence, the genre itself > >will be ruined. > > > >Just my two cents :) > > > >- Dan J. > > > > > if anyone on this list is also on the wire list this > same argument was had > on their and it ended up going nowhere.......by the > way: > REPETITVE DRIVEL, we'll just forget the SCADS of > IDM people who unleash > REPETITVE DRIVEL every day > chris v >
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2001-07-01 15:40Iain Forfar>two words: MOS DEF Or indeed, 1 word : cLOUDEAD The anti rap rant was one of the weakest
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quoted 1 line two words: MOS DEF>two words: MOS DEF
Or indeed, 1 word : cLOUDEAD The anti rap rant was one of the weakest things I've seen. I bet all your IDM idols love rap. Slicker "The Latest" is quite nice. As is Kid 606's "PS You love me" --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 16:33William VanLooDan John wrote: > > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" r
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quoted 5 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or that > don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the artist > is?
I could, if you're actually serious about giving my suggestions a chance. Let me know, and I'll suggest some great hip-hop artists for you to listen to. Bill -- http://www.chromedecay.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-01 17:45Dan JohnHmm... I didn't think so many people would have their own views on this, but I should expl
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Hmm... I didn't think so many people would have their own views on this, but I should explain a bit more about what I meant. 'Rap' is a very generic word that most of you probably include many genres under. Including most likely hip-hop, R&B, etc. I find these to be separate genres all together. The music industry has been kind enough to give us 1,294 different genres and rap has become smaller and smaller since. I personally love listening to DJ Shadow, Amon Tobin and other Ninja Tune goods, but I would consider it hip-hop and also very creative. It's not RAP. Rap consists of (like I mentioned before) some black teens or twenty-somethings spouting garbage while they treat every woman they see like pieces of yesterdays rotten meat. I'm too tired to go on, and I need breakfast, but I hope you understand what I meant a bit more... - Dan J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan John" <djohn1@home.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
quoted 2 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or
that
quoted 1 line don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the> don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the
artist
quoted 5 lines is?> is? > > I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and > anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to > 'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of
repetitive
quoted 27 lines drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.> drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. > > I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of > creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think > electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself > will be ruined. > > Just my two cents :) > > - Dan J. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "JK" <k-rad@swbell.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 3:17 AM > Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs > > > > > > > > "Brian M. Cass" wrote: > > > > > HOORAY > > > HOORAY FOR APHEX TWIN > > > > > > and speaking of stuff thats out that people should be excited about,
I'd
quoted 9 lines like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new> > > like to point out that Zammuto has a new cd out. oh, and the new > Marumari > > > Squarepusher and Prefuse 73(even though it samples rap) > > > > EVE:N though it samples rap!%$@ Musicians working in the rap genre > have to > > be incredibly on top of everything lyrically (not an easy thing to do), > and > > also production, djing skills etc. etc. Electronic music owes a GREAT
debt
quoted 21 lines to> to > > rap and similair styles for making the usage of sequenced beats etc. > > acceptable to the general populace. Take a look at some of the great rap > > artists, and you will find an incredibly wealth of musical talent..... > Drop > > some phat beats man.... :P > > > > cdin > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-07-01 18:52J. HoudeExamples of these so-called "great" rap artists : Aceyalone (proj. blowed) Abstract Rude (
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Examples of these so-called "great" rap artists : Aceyalone (proj. blowed) Abstract Rude (proj. blowed) Fish (CVE/proj. blowed) Mos Def (blackstar) Talib Kweli (blackstar) Kool Keith Blackalicious (quannum) Latyrx (quannum) Common Del (heiro) Souls of Mischief (heiro) Casual (heiro) The Coup Now, I didn't grow up in Detroit, but i find all this 'electronic' music is just an outlet to dance geared towards young white males that dont know any better then to go to 'raves' with artists there that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive drivel. I find electronic music to be complete crap. Obviously, the days of creativity have run out. Its all just 4/4 beats and cheezy samples and THAT IS IT. Heh, sorry for the sarcasm, I felt it was necessary to point out that just about every type of music is filled to the brim with crappy artists. You are not going to hear the tightest rap songs on MTV, just as you are not going to hear the best electronic music on commercial radio. It just don't work like dat. Much love, JHoude PS - 'booty' is spelled with a 'y'.
quoted 11 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap>Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or that >don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the artist >is? I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage and >anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to >'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive >drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. >I find rap to be complete crap quite plain and simple. The days of >creativity have obviously run out with todays rap, and if you think >electronic artists should look towards rap as influence, the genre itself >will be ruined.
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2001-07-01 23:39ian>Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One's
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quoted 2 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap>Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap >artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or
that
quoted 1 line don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the>don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the
artist
quoted 1 line is? I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage>is? I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage
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quoted 3 lines anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to>anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to >'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of repetitive >drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.
#1 - Please please tell me what rap music youre listening to hahhah #2 - You seem to know an awful lot about rap to assume it all samples 70s classic rock, lol. You find rap is an outlet for rage? You dont know a single thing about it... how you can you possibly categorize it? Pop music is for gay people, classical music is for old people, heavy metal is for violent people, only rich people listen to jazz. What do black males have to do with it, are you racist or somethin? people are people. To call an entire genre like hip-hop on a list that wouldnt exist without it is pure stupidity. If you saw things from the perspective of those who enjoy it and those who make it you would be ashamed of your snide and rather ignorant comments about it. Music is Art. Just because Aphex Twin is a shitty electronic musician doesnt mean the rest now and in the future cannot make a positive impact on the world - or whatever the fuck you were trying to dis any music that has raps ian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-02 00:13Dan JohnI'm sure if I enjoyed the music, then I WOULD have found those comments 'snide and rather
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I'm sure if I enjoyed the music, then I WOULD have found those comments 'snide and rather ignorant'. But guess what? I DON'T like rap therefore I find them to be true. As you may have missed, I added in the line "That's just my two cents" meaning that it's my PERSONAL opinion take it or leave it. I never expected so many people actually waste their time listening to Snoop Doggy Fucking Dog and DMX (not Krew). Yeah... that's rap. If you're saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard James, etc. etc. than you have to be smokin' some mighty fine crack. BTW, I listen to Marumari quite a bit and if you classify that as rap, I'd LOVE to have a look at your musical dictionary. - Dan J. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ian" <ipojman@jmlafferty.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Aphex Twin - Drukqs
quoted 9 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> >Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > >artists? One's that don't rip samples from otherwise classic songs, or > that > >don't contain obsessant profanity pointing out how "hard done by" the > artist > >is? I didn't grow up the 'hood, but I find that rap is an outlet for rage > and > >anger geared towards young black males that don't know any better than to > >'buy' scads of cds by artists that churn out mindless amounts of
repetitive
quoted 21 lines drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night.> >drivel speaking of some woman's 'bootie' they 'boned' last night. > > #1 - Please please tell me what rap music youre listening to hahhah > #2 - You seem to know an awful lot about rap to assume it all samples 70s > classic rock, lol. You find rap is an outlet for rage? You dont know a > single > thing about it... how you can you possibly categorize it? Pop music is for > gay > people, classical music is for old people, heavy metal is for violent > people, > only rich people listen to jazz. > What do black males have to do with it, are you racist or somethin? people > are > people. To call an entire genre like hip-hop on a list that wouldnt exist > without it is pure stupidity. > > If you saw things from the perspective of those who enjoy it and those who > make it you would be ashamed of your snide and rather ignorant comments > about it. Music is Art. Just because Aphex Twin is a shitty electronic > musician doesnt mean the rest now and in the future cannot make a positive > impact on the world - or whatever the fuck you were trying to dis any
music
quoted 10 lines that has raps> that has raps > > ian > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-07-02 00:30Jeremy AxonAt 08:13 PM 7/1/2001, you wrote: >I'm sure if I enjoyed the music, then I WOULD have found
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quoted 8 lines I'm sure if I enjoyed the music, then I WOULD have found those comments>I'm sure if I enjoyed the music, then I WOULD have found those comments >'snide and rather ignorant'. But guess what? I DON'T like rap therefore I >find them to be true. As you may have missed, I added in the line "That's >just my two cents" meaning that it's my PERSONAL opinion take it or leave >it. I never expected so many people actually waste their time listening to >Snoop Doggy Fucking Dog and DMX (not Krew). Yeah... that's rap. If you're >saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard >James, etc. etc. than you have to be smokin' some mighty fine crack.
Personal opinion or not, writing off a whole genre is bound to get you flamed on this list. And disliking rap because it is (here i go paraphrasing) a bunch of young afro-american males talking about how hard-done-by they are is pretty... well, ignorant. Would you rather they grabbed an acoustic guitar and wrote some nice folky tunes? Or would you like to hear them sing about how everything's just fine, and not complain about the economic plight facing millions of people of all colours around the world? Shit, next thing you know, you'll be dismissing "rock" music because its all about a bunch of guys and girls trying to get laid.... on an idm-note, i really like Tipper's older stuff on Fuel... Sound Off is great too.... j-a- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-02 00:42Chris West> saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard > James, etc. et
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quoted 2 lines saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard> saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard > James, etc. etc. than you have to be smokin' some mighty fine crack.
Content aside, I have to say, Eminem's ability to rhyme and string words together is quite impressive. I am quite skeptical when it comes to music with a lot of dick-swaggering attitude behind it, but a friend of mine had me sit down and actually listen objectively to the way this guy puts words together and I feel the guy really is quite talented. Reminds me of Bob Dylan. Again though, I am side-stepping content and just looking at word choice and placement. As far as Phonem goes though... ...heh, I really don't think I even have the ability to compare the two. Something I am curious about though, how do you feel about Funkstroung's remix of the Wu-Tang track on additional productions? That's got quite a bit of the hard edged rap feel to it, but yet it is also has a lot of IDMy tweaks to it. Personally I think it is a great fusion of the two. I only mention this because that is what first got me interested in the melding of the two genres, and now I can't get enough of it. -c --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-02 00:53Erlend HammerDan John wrote: << BTW, I listen to Marumari quite a bit and if you classify that as rap,
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Dan John wrote: << BTW, I listen to Marumari quite a bit and if you classify that as rap, I'd LOVE to have a look at your musical dictionary. >> I'll show you mine if you show me yours. Labelling all music which contains lyrics delivered in a rapping manner, as opposed to the traditionally more commonly used singing manner is about as insightful as calling all European dance-music Euro-Dance. I don't think "Snoop Doggy Fucking Dogg" is a favourite amongst people on this list (although a lot of his work with Dr. Dre pre-Doggy Style is definitely a-okay in my book). And whatever one may think of Eminem's "personality" it can hardly be denied that he is a damn fine rapper and in my opinion probably the most talented white rapper of all time. Give some of these records a chance and perhaps you'll change your opinion. And if you don't, well there's still millions of angry black men out there dying to spend their (stolen) money on the records of these crack-smokin', hoe-pimpin' criminals. Boogie Down Productions - Criminal Minded LP (as sampled by Mike P.) EPMD - Strictly Business LP Eric B. And Rakim - Paid In Full LP Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown LP (as sampled by Gescom) Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth - Mecca And the Soul Brother LP / The Creator 12" Del the funkee Homosapien - No Need For Alarm LP Jeru da Damaja - The Sun Rises In The East LP Gangstarr - Step In The Arena LP Nas - Illmatic Cheerio, Erlend --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-02 09:22Anig BrowlFrom: Dan John <djohn1@home.com> > saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem
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quoted 2 lines saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard> saying Eminem is more talented than artists like Phonem, µ-ziq, Richard > James, etc. etc. than you have to be smokin' some mighty fine crack.
Well, it's a different sort of talent, isn't it? Eminem doesn't write much of the music I gather, at least it's a collaborative thing with the producer. On the other hand he produces some fine lyrics and clever rhymes. I don't especially like Eminem, and I think his 'chainsaws and E' stage persona is a bit silly, but he's talented - just in an area that I don't particularly go for (to be frank I'm not much into vocal music of any sort in the last few years). Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-07-02 11:27Digital Cutup LoungeDan John wrote: > Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap
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Dan John wrote:
quoted 2 lines Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap> Sorry... but could you give us an example of these so-called "great" rap > artists?
Kool Keith aka Dr Octagon, whose live show was recently reviewed on this list... -- 'Can science develop a unified theory of complex systems?' 'Can science develop a unified theory of complex systems?' 'Can science achieve a unified theory of complex systems?' 'Maybe so.' -- I was really into spinning hiphop on my laptop for awhile, I love the music but it's kind of a joke doing it on the computer with .wav files 'cuz hiphop DJing is such a vinyl-based artform...we like to throw in lots of sampled scratches and other vinyl noises just for fun... John np:Dr Octagon 'Biology 101' -- John von Seggern DJ/producer Digital Cutup Lounge Hong Kong http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org