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Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars

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◇ merged from 2 subjects: smoking our way to mars · tortoise/mouse on mars/nobukazu takemura/vert
2001-06-19 17:15Matthew Korfhage Re: [idm] Tortoise/Mouse on Mars/Nobukazu Takemura/Vert
└─ 2001-06-19 17:32Adam Piontek [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
2001-06-20 03:01Thomas Millar Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
└─ 2001-06-20 19:53Ryan Schilling Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
└─ 2001-06-20 23:03Zenon M Feszczak Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
2001-06-20 20:04Navigator D Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
2001-06-20 23:27ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))... Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
├─ 2001-06-20 23:38Adam Piontek RE: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
└─ 2001-06-21 13:42ryanschilling Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
2001-06-21 00:21Static Beats Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
└─ 2001-06-21 03:20Zenon M Feszczak Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
└─ 2001-06-21 17:09Irene McC Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
2001-06-22 02:40Ebola 3 Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars
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2001-06-19 17:15Matthew KorfhageFrom: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> >>entire reason to smoke is its absolute pointless
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From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>
quoted 6 lines entire reason to smoke is its absolute pointlessness>>entire reason to smoke is its absolute pointlessness >>and harmfulness, it's a >>bit sad. Aesthetics of decay, yo? > >That's the kind bullshit that intelligent people >either outgrow in highschool or skip entirely...
When do you think most of them started smoking, anyway, kid? It's either high school or college, where it's usually a social act, or possibly in the army, where it's the only way you're allowed to take a ten-minute break. Later on it's usually either addiction or sustained identification. And since when were intelligence and pragmatism co-extensive? Incidentally, I DON'T smoke, and never have, but I on ther other hand don't think myself superior for it. It's codes of identity and difference, not something with a defined function, i.e. the same reason you party late and wreck your sleep instead of having a nice afternoon or evening soiree-- why? because it's meaningful that you're out and jubilant when all of middle America's asleep, and that you may be sacrificing *your* sleep to do so. Subsuming the symbolic value of acts to their use value is a bit of a disease.
quoted 2 lines With people like you leading the world's cultures,>With people like you leading the world's cultures, >I'm never going to get to go to Mars.
With (would-be) space tourists like you consuming all the resources and dumping tons of pollutants into the atmosphere with every launch, I'm never going to get to live here sustainably. Cheers, M. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-19 17:32Adam Piontek--- Matthew Korfhage <pomomofo2000@hotmail.com> wrote: > From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yaho
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--- Matthew Korfhage <pomomofo2000@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 14 lines From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>> From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> > >Someone else said: > >>entire reason to smoke is its > >>absolute pointlessness > >>and harmfulness, it's a > >>bit sad. Aesthetics of decay, yo? > > > >That's the kind bullshit that intelligent people > >either outgrow in highschool or skip entirely... > > When do you think most of them started smoking, > anyway, kid? It's either > high school or college, where it's usually a social > act, or possibly in the
Really? Human actions often have social or symbolic reasons? Really? Thank you, professor. Let's get beyond the 1960s and realize that, regardless of how much time we waste with cultural studies and arguments about nature vs. nurture, humans are still idiotic.
quoted 3 lines Subsuming the symbolic value of acts to their use> Subsuming the symbolic value of acts to their use > value is a bit of a > disease.
It is always good to attempt to examine all sides of things in order to make adequate choices. I didn't subsume anything. I made a joke. Outside of the occasional review, I write almost nothing to this list in line with my true thoughts, because, outside of the occasional review, I have no respect for this list.
quoted 8 lines With people like you leading the world's cultures,> >With people like you leading the world's cultures, > >I'm never going to get to go to Mars. > > With (would-be) space tourists like you consuming > all the resources and > dumping tons of pollutants into the atmosphere with > every launch, I'm never > going to get to live here sustainably.
Ha. I don't want to tour space, I want to colonize it. We'll need to sooner than we think, thanks to smokers and SUV buyers. Or at least thanks to the attitudes and lack of willpower that leads people to those activities. It's nice to know there will always be people ready to take me seriously when I'm being very much the reverse. Otherwise, a large source of my daily entertainment would be lost. -Capt. Biff "Rocketship" Hardneck aka. Big McLargehuge aka. Adam "Willpower" Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-20 03:01Thomas MillarThe shame of mass anonymous lists like IDM is that, unlike a club or live venue, you can't
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The shame of mass anonymous lists like IDM is that, unlike a club or live venue, you can't just walk away from the two losers in the corner having their own pointless, irrelevant conversation and ignore them completely. But on the other hand, since I have been forced to observe this shit, I don't feel at all guilty anymore about throwing in my two cents, unwanted as they may be. Matt- thanks for standing up for people's rights to make their own decisions for themselves. I like how so many others couldn't make the connection between the right to chain camels at a club and the perceived right to suck down a bowl in their college dormitory. I find pot much more noxious and irritating than I have ever found cigarette smoke. Adam- since you have no use for this list other than to read it so as to make yourself feel superior to all of us SUV-buying, cigarette-smoking, middle-of-the-road idiots, please leave. I'd point out the fallacies in each of your arguments but I've had enough encounters with your type to know that would be a waste of time. That said, go fuck your elitist self. And feel free to prove my point, which is that you are a blabbering nihilist-wannabe liberal ass, anytime you like, just as long as you do it out your bedroom window to the homeless people and not on list to the music listeners. Thanks Tom --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-20 19:53Ryan SchillingI must say that you *have* to be in the minority in this opinion. In fact, I don't know if
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I must say that you *have* to be in the minority in this opinion. In fact, I don't know if I'd ever heard anyone who's said burning tobacco smells better than burning cannabis until today. Not to mention the fact that pot smoke dissipates more quickly and people smoke less quantity of pot than they do with tobacco. My god... one bowl gets you stirred up? You must be one sensitive guy.... -Ryan At 08:01 PM 6/19/2001 -0700, you wrote:
quoted 4 lines I like how so many others couldn't make the connection between the right>I like how so many others couldn't make the connection between the right >to chain camels at a club and the perceived right to suck down a bowl in >their college dormitory. I find pot much more noxious and irritating >than I have ever found cigarette smoke.
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2001-06-20 23:03Zenon M FeszczakHere, here! I, for one, find cigarette smoke an aesthetic scent, while the emanations of t
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Here, here! I, for one, find cigarette smoke an aesthetic scent, while the emanations of the happy herb (as Father Alminde used to call it) remind me of nothing more than a skunk which has spontaneously combusted. Cheers, 3 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-20 20:04Navigator DI know lots of people who hate the smell of herb...why I don't know...maybe people don't l
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I know lots of people who hate the smell of herb...why I don't know...maybe people don't like the fact that it smells like a dead skunk? Sure as hell don't bother me.... erik
quoted 11 lines From: "Ryan Schilling" <ryanschilling@subdimension.com>>From: "Ryan Schilling" <ryanschilling@subdimension.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:53:53 -0600 > >I must say that you *have* to be in the minority in this opinion. In fact, >I don't know if I'd ever heard anyone who's said burning tobacco smells >better than burning cannabis until today. Not to mention the fact that pot >smoke dissipates more quickly and people smoke less quantity of pot than >they do with tobacco. >
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2001-06-20 23:27ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))..."My god... one bowl gets you stirred up? You must be one sensitive guy.... -Ryan" wow, dud
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"My god... one bowl gets you stirred up? You must be one sensitive guy.... -Ryan" wow, dude! it takes you more than one bowl to get "stirred up"?... you must be one avid drug user! i, for one certainly haven't built up *that* much of a tolerance to anything... and i'm assuming you weigh less than... oh, say... 400lbs, right? i remember that i did not smoke marijuana for a couple years time between now and the time i first did... the smell is much worse after you have tried it then quit. then if you start smoking again, then you will probably start to like it again... i thought this list was about music... ~eon. http://www.undergroundsource.com http://www.elmconceptions.com http://www.soundmangle.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Community, Events, Music, News, Free Email All at www.undergroundsource.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-20 23:38Adam Piontek> -----Original Message----- > From: ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))... > [mailto:ethe
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quoted 7 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))... > [mailto:ethereon@undergroundsource.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 7:28 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars > > i thought this list was about music...
I'm just pleased the subject has stayed, especially since no one has been talking about Mars. Maybe we should just send marijuana and IDM CDs to Mars, and forget colonization... -Rick Patadamfitz _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-21 13:42ryanschillingno, no, no... He said that a fellow student smoking *a* (as in one) bowl down the hall inc
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no, no, no... He said that a fellow student smoking *a* (as in one) bowl down the hall incites, infuriates, pisses off, or as I said, "stirs up." Probably not the best expression to have chosen :) I was implying that pot smoke coming from under one person's door, on down the hall, and into his room shouldn't be enough to piss him off. *shrug* Not really worth all this, though... -Ryan Quoting "ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))..." <ethereon@undergroundsource.com>: "My god... one bowl gets you stirred up? You must be one sensitive guy.... -Ryan" wow, dude! it takes you more than one bowl to get "stirred up"?... you must be one avid drug user! i, for one certainly haven't built up *that* much of a tolerance to anything... and i'm assuming you weigh less than... oh, say... 400lbs, right? -------------------------------------- FREE ANONYMOUS EMAIL! Sign up now. http://www.subdimension.com/freemail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-21 00:21Static BeatsWell I think it's funny that both the IDM List and the Ambient List are engaged in off-top
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Well I think it's funny that both the IDM List and the Ambient List are engaged in off-topic discussions without resorting to cursing and personal attacks on ones character. Mark this day in your calendar folks ! Music Related: I'm really enjoying the new Proem Album: Negativ. Too bad the tracklisting is not on the back of the CD case but rather inside under the CD tray in a barely readable shade of the same color as the background (but I digress...) I think Im gonna call it Ghetto Hip Hop (Crunch Snapple Crackle Pop) Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com Electronic Music For The Mind
quoted 1 line i thought this list was about music...> i thought this list was about music...
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2001-06-21 03:20Zenon M FeszczakMARRS needs women. Oh, no, this will probably start another "Women of IDM" thread. God hel
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MARRS needs women. Oh, no, this will probably start another "Women of IDM" thread. God help us. Sign off now before it's too late! 3 -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-21 17:09Irene McCOn 20 Jun 2001, at 23:20, Zenon M Feszczak wrote: > MARRS needs women. Pump up da volume..
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On 20 Jun 2001, at 23:20, Zenon M Feszczak wrote:
quoted 1 line MARRS needs women.> MARRS needs women.
Pump up da volume... What's becoming of IDM-L :-)) I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-06-22 02:40Ebola 3>From: "ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))..." ><ethereon@undergroundsource.com> >To: idm
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quoted 6 lines From: "ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))...">From: "ethereon ...(([-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-]))..." ><ethereon@undergroundsource.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] Smoking our way to Mars >Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:27:59 -0700 >
quoted 3 lines wow, dude! it takes you more than one bowl to get "stirred up"?...>wow, dude! it takes you more than one bowl to get "stirred up"?... > >
There is a question of the quality of the stuff. (move to Oregon) Ebola np: Front Line Assembly _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org