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wells <wells@submute.net> wrote:

quoted 20 lines Attention: When yo ugo to a fucking show, could you smoke maybe 5 >>less

>>Attention: When yo ugo to a fucking show, could you smoke maybe 5 >>less >>cigarettes? I don't have an objection to smoking, but when hundreds >>of >>kids >>smoke twenty cigarettes back to back and the venue still has shitty >>ventilation DESPITE an upscaling and no longer booking local bands - >> >>could >>you guss just please smoke LESS? > >ba ha. > >i have to say this keeps me away from a lot of live shows. don't you >kids >realize that smoking is disgusting? > >there really are quicker ways to either (1) impress people, (2) kill >yourself, (3) give yourself nasty breath, (4) make your teeth look >nasty, >or (4) make your clothes stink like shit. > >those, of course, being the only benefits of smoking. > >so just quit it. get over it.

Not to disrupt your rant, but if you haven't figured out by now that the entire reason to smoke is its absolute pointlessness and harmfulness, it's a bit sad. Aesthetics of decay, yo? We like to share our vices, and we like the people who share them. Cheers, M. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>

quoted 6 lines entire reason to smoke is its absolute pointlessness

>>entire reason to smoke is its absolute pointlessness >>and harmfulness, it's a >>bit sad. Aesthetics of decay, yo? > >That's the kind bullshit that intelligent people >either outgrow in highschool or skip entirely...

When do you think most of them started smoking, anyway, kid? It's either high school or college, where it's usually a social act, or possibly in the army, where it's the only way you're allowed to take a ten-minute break. Later on it's usually either addiction or sustained identification. And since when were intelligence and pragmatism co-extensive? Incidentally, I DON'T smoke, and never have, but I on ther other hand don't think myself superior for it. It's codes of identity and difference, not something with a defined function, i.e. the same reason you party late and wreck your sleep instead of having a nice afternoon or evening soiree-- why? because it's meaningful that you're out and jubilant when all of middle America's asleep, and that you may be sacrificing *your* sleep to do so. Subsuming the symbolic value of acts to their use value is a bit of a disease.

quoted 2 lines With people like you leading the world's cultures,

>With people like you leading the world's cultures, >I'm never going to get to go to Mars.

With (would-be) space tourists like you consuming all the resources and dumping tons of pollutants into the atmosphere with every launch, I'm never going to get to live here sustainably. Cheers, M. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

--- Matthew Korfhage <pomomofo2000@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 14 lines From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>

> From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> > >Someone else said: > >>entire reason to smoke is its > >>absolute pointlessness > >>and harmfulness, it's a > >>bit sad. Aesthetics of decay, yo? > > > >That's the kind bullshit that intelligent people > >either outgrow in highschool or skip entirely... > > When do you think most of them started smoking, > anyway, kid? It's either > high school or college, where it's usually a social > act, or possibly in the

Really? Human actions often have social or symbolic reasons? Really? Thank you, professor. Let's get beyond the 1960s and realize that, regardless of how much time we waste with cultural studies and arguments about nature vs. nurture, humans are still idiotic.

quoted 3 lines Subsuming the symbolic value of acts to their use

> Subsuming the symbolic value of acts to their use > value is a bit of a > disease.

It is always good to attempt to examine all sides of things in order to make adequate choices. I didn't subsume anything. I made a joke. Outside of the occasional review, I write almost nothing to this list in line with my true thoughts, because, outside of the occasional review, I have no respect for this list.

quoted 8 lines With people like you leading the world's cultures,

> >With people like you leading the world's cultures, > >I'm never going to get to go to Mars. > > With (would-be) space tourists like you consuming > all the resources and > dumping tons of pollutants into the atmosphere with > every launch, I'm never > going to get to live here sustainably.

Ha. I don't want to tour space, I want to colonize it. We'll need to sooner than we think, thanks to smokers and SUV buyers. Or at least thanks to the attitudes and lack of willpower that leads people to those activities. It's nice to know there will always be people ready to take me seriously when I'm being very much the reverse. Otherwise, a large source of my daily entertainment would be lost. -Capt. Biff "Rocketship" Hardneck aka. Big McLargehuge aka. Adam "Willpower" Jones __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Spot the hottest trends in music, movies, and more. http://buzz.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org