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no, this is not off topic. The new N'SYNC single, "pop", sounds like fucking kid606 produced it. Ok, co-produced it. It's got stutters and a beat-boxing breakdown that includes some timestretched parts... it was hideous (aka bad song occasionally using some cool sounds). argh. anyone but n'sync. and yeah, it's cheesy to be upset by this, but really, n'sync? i could deal with christina agulira or backstreet boys jumping on idm cliches (though it's probably just their producers doing it) but... ugh. just thought folks would like the heads up... and the obvious flame war that's about to happen. :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

[Anthony Saunders <anthonysaunders@yahoo.com>]

quoted 4 lines The new N'SYNC single, "pop", sounds like fucking

> The new N'SYNC single, "pop", sounds like fucking > kid606 produced it. Ok, co-produced it. It's got > stutters and a beat-boxing breakdown that includes > some timestretched parts...

Actually, it was BT (the American progressive house producer) who produced it and it was supposed to be an attempt at making Two-Step Garage. He had a lot of the sounds right for 2-step, but he didn't get the feel of it. It just wasn't shuffly enough to be a good 2-step song. I really think that a lot of you should go check out some 2-step- there's a lot of terrible stuff out there, but there is plenty of really innovative music being made in the genre as well. -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@my2way.com http://www.atomly.com/ | 877.741.3571 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 29 May 2001, atomly wrote:

quoted 4 lines Actually, it was BT (the American progressive house producer) who

> Actually, it was BT (the American progressive house producer) who > produced it and it was supposed to be an attempt at making Two-Step > Garage. He had a lot of the sounds right for 2-step, but he didn't get > the feel of it. It just wasn't shuffly enough to be a good 2-step song.

Strangely, one of the best 'nu skool breakz' tracks I heard in the recent past was also by BT... "Fibonacci Sequence". Sure, not really an experimental take on the subsubsubgenre, but it did really kick. And I remember being really disappointed when I found out he was famous for material that I found, um, less exciting. :)

quoted 3 lines I really think that a lot of you should go check out some 2-step-

> I really think that a lot of you should go check out some 2-step- > there's a lot of terrible stuff out there, but there is plenty of really > innovative music being made in the genre as well.

Hell, there's been some really amazing, kicking, strange takes on trance too, that are probably being ignored by the more discriminating, since trance has become such a dirty word. (Tony Senghore's "This is it" being one of them, altho his stuff blends more into funkier house, too) ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

jesus fucking christ, cant a person express what they think on this list? for fucks sake, the man was just making his point of pop music in its relation to IDM, why the fuck do you have to jump all over him? For most of you this is deja vu. i feel it myself, ive typed this email hundreds of times, this is the first time ive ever sent it though.

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>From: {{{5x}}} <5tx@home.com> >To: Anthony Saunders <anthonysaunders@yahoo.com> >CC: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] NSYNC!!!! >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:38:35 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [209.133.83.22] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBCDC657F00AC40043251D185531610EB0; Mon May 28 20:41:51 2001 >Received: (qmail 86480 invoked by uid 1153); 29 May 2001 03:41:54 -0000 >Received: (qmail 86470 invoked from network); 29 May 2001 03:41:54 -0000 >>From idm-return-36498-red_shift_x7 Mon May 28 20:42:24 2001 >Mailing-List: contact idm-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm >Precedence: bulk >X-No-Archive: yes >list-help: <mailto:idm-help@hyperreal.org> >list-unsubscribe: <mailto:idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org> >list-post: <mailto:idm@hyperreal.org> >Delivered-To: mailing list idm@hyperreal.org >Message-ID: <3B1327CB.8C22C8A3@home.com> >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) >X-Accept-Language: en >References: <20010529033742.3368.qmail@web4006.mail.yahoo.com> >X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > > no, this is not off topic. > > > > The new N'SYNC single, "pop", sounds like fucking > > kid606 produced it. Ok, co-produced it. It's got > > stutters and a beat-boxing breakdown that includes > > some timestretched parts... > > > > it was hideous (aka bad song occasionally using some > > cool sounds). argh. anyone but n'sync. and yeah, it's > > cheesy to be upset by this, but really, n'sync? i > > could deal with christina agulira or backstreet boys > > jumping on idm cliches (though it's probably just > > their producers doing it) but... ugh. > >who fucking cares!?!????? why must all these people insist on producing >inane threads to further shove the idm list into an ever obvious death? >don't you have anything better to talk about other than how violated you >feel by a boy band's production technique? >-- >{{{5x}}} >:::frontin' so you don't have to::: >:::http://24.108.117.188 ::: > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 13 lines no, this is not off topic.

> no, this is not off topic. > > The new N'SYNC single, "pop", sounds like fucking > kid606 produced it. Ok, co-produced it. It's got > stutters and a beat-boxing breakdown that includes > some timestretched parts... > > it was hideous (aka bad song occasionally using some > cool sounds). argh. anyone but n'sync. and yeah, it's > cheesy to be upset by this, but really, n'sync? i > could deal with christina agulira or backstreet boys > jumping on idm cliches (though it's probably just > their producers doing it) but... ugh.

who fucking cares!?!????? why must all these people insist on producing inane threads to further shove the idm list into an ever obvious death? don't you have anything better to talk about other than how violated you feel by a boy band's production technique? -- {{{5x}}} :::frontin' so you don't have to::: :::http://24.108.117.188 ::: --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

looking at it objectively, the beats i heard were pretty phat. nsync is a wack production machine (granted), but hey, lets not be selfish and share the phatness w/ everyone. the only part i didnt like was the lame ass 80's stab sounds that it had..haha... d --- {{{5x}}} <5tx@home.com> wrote:

quoted 32 lines no, this is not off topic.

> > no, this is not off topic. > > > > The new N'SYNC single, "pop", sounds like fucking > > kid606 produced it. Ok, co-produced it. It's got > > stutters and a beat-boxing breakdown that includes > > some timestretched parts... > > > > it was hideous (aka bad song occasionally using > some > > cool sounds). argh. anyone but n'sync. and yeah, > it's > > cheesy to be upset by this, but really, n'sync? i > > could deal with christina agulira or backstreet > boys > > jumping on idm cliches (though it's probably just > > their producers doing it) but... ugh. > > who fucking cares!?!????? why must all these people > insist on producing > inane threads to further shove the idm list into an > ever obvious death? > don't you have anything better to talk about other > than how violated you > feel by a boy band's production technique? > -- > {{{5x}}} > :::frontin' so you don't have to::: > :::http://24.108.117.188 ::: > > > >

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On Mon, 28 May 2001, ff g wrote:

quoted 5 lines looking at it objectively, the beats i heard were

> looking at it objectively, the beats i heard were > pretty phat. nsync is a wack production machine > (granted), but hey, lets not be selfish and share the > phatness w/ everyone. the only part i didnt like was > the lame ass 80's stab sounds that it had..haha...

See, that's the thing: those beats could have been good WITHOUT NSync. Yet the producer couldn't make it on his own, for whatever reasons, and decided instead to sell out to the popculture machine. I just saw the video an hour or two ago. Lots of VST trickery nonsense going on; whatever. It's still a horrid pop song, and all the IDMishness in the world is not going to make me like a wretched, contrived boy band -- I don't care if Richard Damn James his self does a remix, it's crap culture for crap people. A good song is a good song whether it's done on a synth or a psaltery - and this is not a good song. As Henry Fool said: There's no accounting for taste. And as my friend Kathy said: there is no 'talent' knob. m@2zo --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

--- The Chisa <matt@holland.deathhouse.net> wrote:

quoted 24 lines On Mon, 28 May 2001, ff g wrote:

> > On Mon, 28 May 2001, ff g wrote: > > > looking at it objectively, the beats i heard were > > pretty phat. nsync is a wack production machine > > (granted), but hey, lets not be selfish and share the > > phatness w/ everyone. the only part i didnt like was > > the lame ass 80's stab sounds that it had..haha... > > See, that's the thing: those beats could have been good WITHOUT > NSync. Yet the producer couldn't make it on his own, for whatever > reasons, and decided instead to sell out to the popculture machine. > > I just saw the video an hour or two ago. Lots of VST trickery > nonsense going on; whatever. It's still a horrid pop song, and all the > IDMishness in the world is not going to make me like a wretched, > contrived > boy band -- I don't care if Richard Damn James his self does a remix, > it's crap culture for crap people. A good song is a good song whether > it's done on a synth or a psaltery - and this is not a good song. > > As Henry Fool said: There's no accounting for taste. And as my friend > Kathy said: there is no 'talent' knob. >

I'm excited about it. I hope Christine Aguilera and Britney Spears follow. I'm sure Madonna will. Bjork already did. U2 might jump on it a few years from now. Big stars dip into the underground for inspiration, the underground evolves because of it. My personal feeling is that the glitchy beat and overused VST effects thing became cliche years ago, and I can't wait to see it ushered out the door to make way for something truly innovative. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

--- "Ed Hickey@Nubreaks" <freqdafunk@flashmail.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines The tune was produced (in large part) by the US trance master BT (Brian

> The tune was produced (in large part) by the US trance master BT (Brian > Transeau). He's got some top production skills. Just listen to the > decimated glitchy percussion work and vocoder action in that "Pop" tune > - > nice. What you think of him working with N'Sync doesnt much matter - if > you > listen to his "Movement in Still Life" LP you'll hear some really great > production - for breakbeat, trance, and more. I personally dont care > for > his trance stuff, but the breaks stuff is really quite top. > > Ed >

This totally doesn't surprise me. BT was featured at a rave I went to in Houston last year. He mostly did sort of bland trance, but he had the most incredibly cheesy moves onstage-- for a DJ anyway. Every 45 seconds or so he'd be messing with a keyboard, then suddenly he'd pick up one side of the keyboard with one hand and bang the shit out of it sideways with the other while this blinding spotlight came on him and the rest of the stage went dark. He would use this like a dance move, leaning way back and getting his hips into it and all. It was SO corny, and he used it about every 16 measures or 32 at most, but all the rollers and trippers just started screaming every single fucking time. I guess he knows his audience... just like NSYNC and their, uh... dancing, right? Zzb ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Shut the hell up, your bitching isn't going to change the ways of the IDM list. Too many people to maintain order, if you don't like a post, press the delete key and move on with your life.

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> ---------- > From: {{{5x}}} > who fucking cares!?!????? why must all these people insist on producing > inane threads to further shove the idm list into an ever obvious death? > don't you have anything better to talk about other than how violated you > feel by a boy band's production technique?

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