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Ugh, thats terrible calling the RDJ album shotty, you're nuts, and I usually wouldn't call someone stupid for their opinions, (though Plaid tests my will), there is something wrong with you if you can't see the brillance of RDJa. That is one of the penultimate records of electronica. I don't mean to flame, its just I think you should haul ass to your cd player and try again. And I think SAWII is good for what it is, I doubt Aphex ever intended it to be anything than an AMBIENT work. On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 audax@mb.sympatico.ca wrote:

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> Point 1: > Shotty RDJ Records: > Selected Ambient Works II > Richard D. James > > Point 2: > Fans cannot control the artist. > > Point 3: > Stop whining, and dont even think they care, because I wouldnt > if I were them. > > Vector Audax > > >why couldnt you have taken an year off insted of just rushing > out the > >record. > >i hope richard d.james does not make the same mistake and ruch > out a shotty > >wank record. > > > >please respond to this list with an explanation, we all love > you Rob and > >Sean, and dont forget that we all are hear to support you. > > > >but this just cant be confield, after all the amazing stuff, > this just cant > >be the true AE. > > > >meanwhile..listening to lipswitch and trying to cope with the > loss of > >another electronic phenomenon > > > >regards, > >teardropb > > > > > >> > >>Dear IDM Friends, Sean, and Rob- > >> > >>I want you all to know that I awoke early this morning, > trembling with > >>anticipation. Why? Because I was going to napster the new > autechre album > >>while at work. On the way there, I slipped "Chichlisuite" into > the Cd > >>player and hummed along to "Krib" as I sped to work, pals > sweaty with > >>hearing the new offering from my (former) heroes. Once I was > logged in to > >>my computer, I quickly started up my copy of napster and > started looking... > >>I found 1... 2... 3... etc. Pretty soon I had the entire > album, but I wated > >>until all the downloads were done before listening. I turned > the harsh > >>flourescent light in my office off and hit play on "VI Scose > Pose". > >>Shocked, I skipped to the next file, and then to the next. > Pretty soon I > >>found that I skipped my way through the entire album!!! WHAT > WAS > >>HAPPENING??!?!? Is this autechre? I began to cry. > >> > >>Now, after "ep7" came out I emailed Sean and Rob and asked > them to > >>incorporate more melodies and chord progressions into their > songs. I also > >>asked them to cut down on the use of Hyperprism FX and quirky > digital > >>programming. While they never responded to my messages, I got > the sense > >>that they had heard me and realized the errors of their ways. > They're > >>geniuses, but sometimes, things don't always work quite > right. > >> > >>But now I know they did not hear me, or they did not care. > Sean and Rob > >>don't seem to give a damn for those of us who are devoted fans > and who know > >>more about the scene than they do. I give them my love, time, > and emails > >>and I get rewarded with "Cornfield" or should I say > "Cornhole". I'm so > >>hurt, I'm a very emotional person. It just dosen't make any > sense. It > >>sounds like they spent a few minutes letting their cats run > about on their > >>samplers, then cut it into tracks and bribed warp to release > it. I blame > >>Warp too. > >> > >>I'm so disappointed. I was hoping for a return to the > "Chichlisuite" era > >>sound, but instead I got a record that Funkstorung could have > done better. > >>Fortunately, there are enough other IDM artists out there > ready to fill the > >>shoes of the dead gods. > >> > >>Sean and Rob, if you guys read this, please contact me off > list with an > >>explanation, or I will not buy the CD. > >> > >>Keep it real, > >> > >>t2s > >> > >>== > >> .,-:-,,. > >> .AMMMHMMHHMII, > >> .AMMHHMMMHHMMHMMMHHA. > >> .AMHHMMMMHIMMMMMMHMHHHHHL > >> .AHHIHHMMHIMMMMMMMHMHHHMHLH: > >> ,LHHIIHHHHIHMHMMMMMHMHHHLHHAIA > >> ;IHHIHHMMH:IHMHMMMMMMHMHIHLIHHIA > >> .:IHHII:':'..:.:IHMHMMHHHHIHHLIHH. > >> ,I:AVI::.'. .'.'.::IAHMHMHHIALVAIHA > >> ,A:AVI::.'. . . '.:IAVMMHAVLVAIVHHA > >> ;HIHHMHHIHHMHMMMMMHMHHIHI::.:.. : . . AHAA. > >>.AHIHMMMHMHMHMMHMMMMHMHII::.:.. . . . ..:HMMH: > >>AHV':HHMHHMHMMMHMMMMMHHI::.:.. .. . .AOAVA/'-.. > >>:I''VHHMMMHHMMMHMMMMHMHI::... :. . . > ..AOOLV/.:.:.:''--...,. > >>' .AHIHHMHHMMMMHMMMMMMMI:.... :. . .AAVAV/.:. . .: . > .''''-. > >> > >>_____________________________________________________________ > >>Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Furthermore, i would say that SAWII is one of, if not the best ambient album ever made. The atmosphere that almost drips from the tracks, ranging from awe and beauty to creeping horror is astounding. I thought for awhile that making ambient tracks would be easy, and after experimenting came to realize that holding down a track with four or six sounds and keeping it interesting for seven or eight minutes is an amazing feat. Plus the samples, have you ever heard sounds like that before? good god, id like to know how he produced those..... That's my SAWII rant. cdin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I think everything that RDJ has done has been pretty damn impressive... except for SAWII. I dunno... I'm willing to just say "it's just my genes, man"... but most of the tracks off SAWII sound, to me, like taking a single layer from Eno's "Another Green World" or "Music for Airports", isolating, and calling it a track. Not to say this is necessarily a bad idea, but for some reason, none of it really connects with me. On the other hand, the more ambient-ish/downbeat track "Pancake Lizard" (off "Donkey Rhubard") is an amazing, moving track -- as just one of many examples. YMMV, as always. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I beg to differ. SAWII is some of the most beutifull and haunting peices of ambience i have ever heard, just give rhubarb or lichen a quick spin. And while we are discussing SAW II , can some one recomend some similar music. P.S. im listening to Aurora(merk) , and im affraid to say that it is not as cool as SAWII. regards, teardropb icq - 55962348 irc #reaktor, #electronic-musicians on DALnet

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>From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] was CONFIeLD/Demand now SAWII >Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:08:59 -0700 (PDT) > > >I think everything that RDJ has done has been pretty damn impressive... >except for SAWII. > >I dunno... I'm willing to just say "it's just my genes, man"... but >most of the tracks off SAWII sound, to me, like taking a single layer from >Eno's "Another Green World" or "Music for Airports", isolating, and >calling it a track. Not to say this is necessarily a bad idea, but for >some reason, none of it really connects with me. > >On the other hand, the more ambient-ish/downbeat track "Pancake >Lizard" (off "Donkey Rhubard") is an amazing, moving track -- as just one >of many examples. YMMV, as always. > >======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> >======================================================================= > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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> From: Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > On the other hand, the more ambient-ish/downbeat > track "Pancake > Lizard" (off "Donkey Rhubard") is an amazing, moving > track -- as just one of many examples. YMMV, as > always.

Forget "Pancake Lizard," man. It's all about the actual A side... "Donkey Rhubarb" is probably my favorite Aphex Twin track ever, with "Windowlicker" as a very close second. As much as I enjoy his less goofy / more ambient stuff, the lunatic side of his work entertains me far more... which is why I'm glad to listen to albums from IDM producers with a sense of humor. Oh, and for all ya playa haters out there, the Orb were AWESOME live! -djgyn, soar trout ===== ======= "GASR" -(Accession recording artists)- << http://gasr.somewhere.net >> << http://www.accession-records.com >> "Transmissions From Scumsburg" -(Industrial Radio Show)- << http://www.angelfire.com/ma/scumsburg/ >> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

S.A.W. II is loverly for long coding runs. Same goes for EP7 actually. Looking forward to finishing a project with Confield fogging up the ear goggles. These are my opinions. Feel free to disagree with them. doug --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

S.A.W. II is also great for, lets see ... uh, how about ... reaching new levels of conciousness. This is and always will be my favorite collection of songs. Confield, on the other hand, is perfect for those who have always wanted to try the "CD in the Microwave" thing, or are out of shit wipes. -- - Nintari Man On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Doug wrote:

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> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:42:29 -0500 (CDT) > From: Doug <umstechi@cc.UManitoba.CA> > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] S.A.W. II > > > S.A.W. II is loverly for long coding runs. > > Same goes for EP7 actually. > > Looking forward to finishing a project with Confield fogging up the ear > goggles. > > These are my opinions. Feel free to disagree with them. > > doug > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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