quoted 14 lines right. except jMax is for linux.
> right. except jMax is for linux.
>
> and cycling 74's products are for mac.
>
> so my point is fuck 'em both.
>
> go rebirth !
>
> LOL
>
> Shimone/Justes
> http://www.staticbeats.com
> Electronic Music For The Mind
>
well, there's no reason you couldn't get jmax running on a pc or a mac.
(probably easier with OS X...)
and of course there's PD. that will run 'native' on a pc. (no mac
damnit!) PD is the equivalent of MSP. miller puckette wrote Max and
MSP. cycling 74 licensed Max from IRCAM (although puckette did all the
porting...) and i believe miller has 'intellectual' rights regarding PD
(but he leaves it open source for you to tweak and whatnot...) and
cycling 74 licensed this from somewhere. (IRCAM or miller?) i never
really had any bias against cycling 74, but after seeing what they did
to nn / nato, that kinda left me with a bitter taste in my mouth. hell,
she (netochka) won a relatively prestigious award, so i don't think the
'claims' cycling 74 are making against her are going to hold up much
longer. (it's kinda hard to win an award based on your programming and
art skills if you have no programming or art skills... which is what
most of the claims C74 are based upon) and i believe she's been asked
to speak, in public, about this issue. maybe i will purchase a C74
product in the future, but i see no reason to do so now. PD is free.
Max is neat and all, but without MSP, you're just building MIDI apps and
controllers. (for the most part...) and of course there's
SuperCollider. that program in itself does just about everything you
need. i'm sure i'll kick myself for getting into a 'political' debate,
but if you're taking something that's free, and marketing it under a
different name (very much like all the linux companies that died because
everyone finally discovered that you can get 5 different builds of linux
for 2 - 3 bucks... instead of paying 50 bucks for a box and shitty
manual) for a pretty considerable profit, that's kinda lame. i realize
this is done everyday in the 'business world,' but i think C74 is gonna
dig its own hole if they don't release some software that they actually
wrote. (not licensed, contracted, stole, reverse engineered, round trip
engineered, etc, etc...) yes, pluggo is cool. but you could write
pluggo in MSP if you really wanted to. and since MSP is PD with a 'user
friendly' interface, you could just use PD and write your own
plugin(s). or use SuperCollider.
as for rebirth, um, yeah. i hope that was a joke. have to admit,
audiomulch is pretty cool though. but not cool enough to get me to
switch from mac to pc. or ditch SC. and you can't forget about
reaktor. if there's two programs that you shouldn't pirate,
SuperCollider and Reaktor are up there on the list. digital performer
is another.
okay, i'm done ranting.
as for performance on stage. a WACOM tablet. that works.
cheers,
christian
--
"realize that being copied means being alike"