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2001-04-12 01:11Peter Shultz Re: [idm] last 6 months rule
└─ 2001-04-12 01:26Brian MacDonald [idm] Instant IDM list flamebait. Just Add Water.
└─ 2001-04-12 02:03Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] Instant IDM list flamebait. Just Add Water.
└─ 2001-04-12 02:54forel Re: [idm] Instant IDM list flamebait. Just Add Water.
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2001-04-12 01:11Peter ShultzHi Swamay and company, Sorry to butt in, but I really don't think this is a very mature at
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Hi Swamay and company, Sorry to butt in, but I really don't think this is a very mature attitude. Today's music technology is so sophisticated and rich that hardly anybody can really put it to its full use without years of experience. I still use my K2000 (invented in, what, 1990??), and am continually finding new sounds and possibilities even on what would be considered today a comparatively primitive machine. At this point, I'm a pretty advanced user, but there's really no end to what can be done. Learn your instrument. Take the time to get under the skin of your equipment, and you'll be surprised at what you'll find. Let's leave the "dedication towards forwarding musical technology" to the people who actually produce the technology. On the other hand, your attitude toward music, as expressed in your posts, is totally foreign to me. You seem to be saying that music is only interesting to you inasmuch as it presents shiny new sonorities. Look deeper! Instead of dismissing anything already done, open up to the richness and history of the world around you! A grounding in classical music probably won't help you program your Kyma any better, but it almost certainly will help you mature in your sense of musical grammar and structure. Don't you see? Innovation lies NOT in the gear, but in the music! And if you don't find the sound of an oboe fresh and exciting, just pretend somebody programmed it in MAX/MSP. Peter
quoted 7 lines If you're not using technology developed within the last 6 months,> > > If you're not using technology developed within the last 6 months, > >you're > > > a reflection of the past. Please, if you have a serious dedication > >towards > > > forwarding electronic music technology, don't use any synthesizers > or > > > samplers.
quoted 5 lines We both meant "hardware" synths and samplers. We use DSP or a hybrid of>We both meant "hardware" synths and samplers. We use DSP or a hybrid of >hard/software. >using an ASR-10 or a KORG keyboard is a bit overreated. they dont do much >anymore. >We make "samplers" or "synths" on the computer now a days.
quoted 1 line So once the album is over 6 months old its not relevant any more because>>So once the album is over 6 months old its not relevant any more because
the
quoted 1 line technology is "old"!!!>> technology is "old"!!!
quoted 4 lines No an album made in the past 6 months does not get dissed. But using the> No an album made in the past 6 months does not get dissed. But using the >"standard" off the shelf gear to make that album does. >Thats what i mean by be an innovator. >But course there are those musicians that will always use the same old
gear,
quoted 3 lines because that is what they are comfortable with, and have no desire to move>because that is what they are comfortable with, and have no desire to move >forward with new gear. And also dont want to go throught the learning >curve.
quoted 3 lines I think most musicians have made a rep with the gear they have, and fear>I think most musicians have made a rep with the gear they have, and fear >rejection if their style changes in the slightest, due to new unfamiliar >gear they are using.
quoted 1 line regards..>regards..
quoted 3 lines ~swamay~>~swamay~ >www.mp3.com/swamay >www.swamay.com
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2001-04-12 01:26Brian MacDonaldI don't really think much of Autechre's releases... ...though I like the more recent stuff
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I don't really think much of Autechre's releases... ...though I like the more recent stuff like "EP7". And I really like their recent live material best, and those Peel sessions... which is the main reason why I'm going to see them live. Other than that, they never quite won me over, nor got to me. Hopefully the live show will change that. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> "Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer. But imprisonment turns the state into a gay dungeon-master." -- Emo Philips ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-04-12 02:03Brian M. CassI pray to god this one just gets ignored. On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Brian MacDonald wrote: > >
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I pray to god this one just gets ignored. On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Brian MacDonald wrote:
quoted 24 lines I don't really think much of Autechre's releases...> > I don't really think much of Autechre's releases... > > ...though I like the more recent stuff like "EP7". And I really like > their recent live material best, and those Peel sessions... which is the > main reason why I'm going to see them live. > > Other than that, they never quite won me over, nor got to me. Hopefully > the live show will change that. > > ======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > > "Capital punishment turns the state into a murderer. But imprisonment > turns the state into a gay dungeon-master." -- Emo Philips > ======================================================================= > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-04-12 02:54forelBrian M. Cass wrote: > I pray to god this one just gets ignored. Too late. -- forel elitis
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quoted 1 line I pray to god this one just gets ignored.> I pray to god this one just gets ignored.
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