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2014-09-21 23:45DJ Stephen R. Where do you go?
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│ └─ 2014-09-24 19:34Laurent Knauth Re: Where do you go?
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└─ 2014-09-22 16:35Mehmet Ismail Re: Where do you go?
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└─ 2014-09-23 14:00Clint Anderson Re: Where do you go?
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└─ 2014-09-23 16:27Mehmet Ismail Re: Where do you go?
└─ 2014-09-26 00:46Sham Beam Re: Where do you go?
└─ 2014-09-26 01:42Artie Qewpie Re: Where do you go?
└─ 2014-09-26 13:38Clint Anderson Re: Where do you go?
└─ 2014-09-26 15:15Basma O Re: Where do you go?
├─ 2014-09-26 15:19Clint Anderson Re: Where do you go?
│ └─ 2014-09-26 15:55Basma O Re: Where do you go?
│ └─ 2014-09-26 22:09Laurent Knauth Re: Where do you go?
│ ├─ 2014-09-26 23:44Jared Dunne Re: Where do you go?
│ │ └─ 2014-09-27 07:28Wim Vogel Re: Where do you go?
│ └─ 2014-09-29 06:57Artie Qewpie Re: Where do you go?
│ └─ 2014-09-29 09:00Laurent Knauth Re: Where do you go?
└─ 2014-09-29 06:55Artie Qewpie Re: Where do you go?
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└─ 2014-10-11 22:29IDM Chicago Re: Where do you go?
└─ 2014-10-11 22:56Wes Re: Where do you go?
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2014-09-21 23:45DJ Stephen R.What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for el
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What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music?
2014-09-22 11:51Artie Qewpieelectronicmusing.com On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote: > What sites, blogs, onlin
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electronicmusing.com On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote:
quoted 2 lines What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for el> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music? >
-- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat
2014-09-22 13:10Matthias HügliHey Can anybody tell me how I can leave this channel? Thnx -------------------------------
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Hey Can anybody tell me how I can leave this channel? Thnx --------------------------------------------------------- r3s3t | Federweg 22 | CH-3008 Bern http://www.r3s3t.ch | mailto:info@r3s3t.ch --------------------------------------------------------- Am 22.09.2014 um 13:51 schrieb Artie Qewpie:
quoted 9 lines electronicmusing.com> electronicmusing.com > > On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote: >> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music? >> > > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat
2014-09-22 13:35Artie QewpieSend me your email login info and I'll sort it out for you. On 9/22/2014 9:10 AM, Matthias
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Send me your email login info and I'll sort it out for you. On 9/22/2014 9:10 AM, Matthias Hügli wrote:
quoted 22 lines Hey> Hey > Can anybody tell me how I can leave this channel? > Thnx > > --------------------------------------------------------- > r3s3t | Federweg 22 | CH-3008 Bern > http://www.r3s3t.ch | mailto:info@r3s3t.ch > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Am 22.09.2014 um 13:51 schrieb Artie Qewpie: > >> electronicmusing.com >> >> On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote: >>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music? >>> >> >> -- >> --arturius qewpie >> that which is, is wat > >
-- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat
2014-09-22 13:41Esa Ruohocute. does that ever work? On 22 September 2014 16:35, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wro
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cute. does that ever work? On 22 September 2014 16:35, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote:
quoted 35 lines Send me your email login info and I'll sort it out for you.> Send me your email login info and I'll sort it out for you. > > > On 9/22/2014 9:10 AM, Matthias Hügli wrote: > >> Hey >> Can anybody tell me how I can leave this channel? >> Thnx >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> r3s3t | Federweg 22 | CH-3008 Bern >> http://www.r3s3t.ch | mailto:info@r3s3t.ch >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Am 22.09.2014 um 13:51 schrieb Artie Qewpie: >> >> electronicmusing.com >>> >>> On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote: >>> >>>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use >>>> as a resource for electronic music? >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> --arturius qewpie >>> that which is, is wat >>> >> >> >> > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat >
2014-09-22 13:56Artie QewpieNot since, like, 2003. (And if it _had_ worked, I would have felt sorry for the dude and s
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Not since, like, 2003. (And if it _had_ worked, I would have felt sorry for the dude and simply sent the unsubscribe message for him) On 9/22/2014 9:41 AM, Esa Ruoho wrote:
quoted 41 lines cute. does that ever work?> cute. does that ever work? > > > On 22 September 2014 16:35, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: > >> Send me your email login info and I'll sort it out for you. >> >> >> On 9/22/2014 9:10 AM, Matthias Hügli wrote: >> >>> Hey >>> Can anybody tell me how I can leave this channel? >>> Thnx >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> r3s3t | Federweg 22 | CH-3008 Bern >>> http://www.r3s3t.ch | mailto:info@r3s3t.ch >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Am 22.09.2014 um 13:51 schrieb Artie Qewpie: >>> >>> electronicmusing.com >>>> >>>> On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote: >>>> >>>>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use >>>>> as a resource for electronic music? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> --arturius qewpie >>>> that which is, is wat >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> --arturius qewpie >> that which is, is wat >> >
-- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat
2014-09-22 13:45Jesse McFadinIn order to subscribe or unsubscribe, simply send a blank email to one of the addresses be
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In order to subscribe or unsubscribe, simply send a blank email to one of the addresses below and follow the directions of the emails that are sent to you. Normal Version Subscribe - idm-subscribe@hyperreal.org Normal Version Unsubscribe - idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org Digest Version Subscribe - idm-digest-subscribe@hyperreal.org Digest Version Unsubscribe - idm-digest-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org regards! Jesse -In Soviet Russia, the government controls the commerce.- On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Matthias Hügli <matu@r3s3t.ch> wrote:
quoted 27 lines Hey> Hey > Can anybody tell me how I can leave this channel? > Thnx > > --------------------------------------------------------- > r3s3t | Federweg 22 | CH-3008 Bern > *http://www.r3s3t.ch <http://www.r3s3t.ch/> *| *mailto:info@r3s3t.ch > <info@r3s3t.ch> * > --------------------------------------------------------- > > Am 22.09.2014 um 13:51 schrieb Artie Qewpie: > > electronicmusing.com > > On 9/21/2014 7:45 PM, DJ Stephen R. wrote: > > What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a > resource for electronic music? > > > > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat > > >
2014-09-22 16:05René Wilhelmthis mailing list soundcloud bleep.com raster-noton.net warp.net/records On 22 September 2
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this mailing list soundcloud bleep.com raster-noton.net warp.net/records On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 2 lines What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a > resource for electronic music?
2014-09-22 16:32Clint Andersonavicii.com Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm
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avicii.com Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 14 lines this mailing list> this mailing list > soundcloud > bleep.com > raster-noton.net > warp.net/records > > > On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as >> a resource for electronic music? > > >
2014-09-23 22:59Jeff Davishttp://goo.gl/KvoNZH Thanks, *Jeffrey J Davis* 218.833.2847 jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com [image:
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http://goo.gl/KvoNZH Thanks, *Jeffrey J Davis* 218.833.2847 jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com [image: WordPress] <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffreyjdavis.com&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: LinkedIn] <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FJeffreyJDavis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: Twitter] <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2FJeffreyJDavis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: Quora] <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quora.com%2FJeffrey-J-Davis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: Google Plus] <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F106489213738169001058%2Fabout&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: Google Talk] jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com [image: Skype] jeffreyjamesdavis On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 24 lines avicii.com> avicii.com > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> this mailing list >> soundcloud >> bleep.com >> raster-noton.net >> warp.net/records >> >> >> On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as >>> a resource for electronic music? >> >> >> >
2014-09-24 19:34Laurent KnauthI try to gather some crumbs here or there but on the whole i'm completely left behind wond
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I try to gather some crumbs here or there but on the whole i'm completely left behind wondering which place to go, plus i don't have much time for digging. I don't like Cristian Vogel's latest releases, nor do i like Devine's ones and i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last 10 years. I don't necessarily dislike everything though : «Syro» sounds like some nice surprise to me. -- " *Automatic, pushbutton, remote controlSynthetic, genetics command your soul.*" The Last Poets, *Mean machine* On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote:
quoted 49 lines http://goo.gl/KvoNZ> http://goo.gl/KvoNZH > > > > Thanks, > > *Jeffrey J Davis* > 218.833.2847 > jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com > [image: WordPress] > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffreyjdavis.com&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: > LinkedIn] > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FJeffreyJDavis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: > Twitter] > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2FJeffreyJDavis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: > Quora] > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quora.com%2FJeffrey-J-Davis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: > Google Plus] > <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F106489213738169001058%2Fabout&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> > [image: Google Talk] jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com [image: Skype] > jeffreyjamesdavis > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> avicii.com >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> this mailing list >>> soundcloud >>> bleep.com >>> raster-noton.net >>> warp.net/records >>> >>> >>> On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use >>>> as a resource for electronic music? >>> >>> >>> >> >
2014-09-25 09:09Mehmet Ismail"i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last 10 years." There'
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"i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last 10 years." There's a point to Warp and everything they release is supposed to reinforce that point otherwise it's pointless? What "point" do you not see? Mem
quoted 48 lines On 24 Sep 2014, at 20:34, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:> On 24 Sep 2014, at 20:34, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > I try to gather some crumbs here or there but on the whole i'm completely left behind wondering which place to go, plus i don't have much time for digging. > > I don't like Cristian Vogel's latest releases, nor do i like Devine's ones and i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last 10 years. > > I don't necessarily dislike everything though : «Syro» sounds like some nice surprise to me. > > -- > "Automatic, pushbutton, remote control > Synthetic, genetics command your soul." > > The Last Poets, Mean machine > >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote: >> http://goo.gl/KvoNZH >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jeffrey J Davis >> 218.833.2847 >> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com >> >> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com jeffreyjamesdavis >> >> >>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> avicii.com >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> this mailing list >>>> soundcloud >>>> bleep.com >>>> raster-noton.net >>>> warp.net/records >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music? > > >
2014-09-25 09:35WesWarp have a lot of rubbish these days IMO. The only good idm or electronica or whatever yo
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Warp have a lot of rubbish these days IMO. The only good idm or electronica or whatever you want to call it have been around for 20+ years and very well established. They're operating as a mainstream label now with little time for underground electronic music any more. Whereas skam have VHS head for example. I can't really think of any other labels - otherwise I'd be sending my own stuff to them! Sent from my iPhone
quoted 57 lines On 25 Sep 2014, at 10:09, Mehmet Ismail <mehmet.ismail85@gmail.com> wrote:> On 25 Sep 2014, at 10:09, Mehmet Ismail <mehmet.ismail85@gmail.com> wrote: > > "i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last 10 years." > > There's a point to Warp and everything they release is supposed to reinforce that point otherwise it's pointless? What "point" do you not see? > > Mem > > >> On 24 Sep 2014, at 20:34, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I try to gather some crumbs here or there but on the whole i'm completely left behind wondering which place to go, plus i don't have much time for digging. >> >> I don't like Cristian Vogel's latest releases, nor do i like Devine's ones and i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last 10 years. >> >> I don't necessarily dislike everything though : «Syro» sounds like some nice surprise to me. >> >> -- >> "Automatic, pushbutton, remote control >> Synthetic, genetics command your soul." >> >> The Last Poets, Mean machine >> >>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote: >>> http://goo.gl/KvoNZH >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jeffrey J Davis >>> 218.833.2847 >>> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com >>> >>> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com jeffreyjamesdavis >>> >>> >>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> avicii.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> this mailing list >>>>> soundcloud >>>>> bleep.com >>>>> raster-noton.net >>>>> warp.net/records >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music? >> >> >>
2014-09-25 13:40Clint Andersonsort of amazing skam has stayed in business this whole time, but look how many other label
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sort of amazing skam has stayed in business this whole time, but look how many other labels have just disappeared over the years, i guess i feel like warp still has plenty of new experimental stuff maybe we are just getting old :) anyways, also glad they have stayed in business, even if they had to diversify away from what i loved best about them
2014-09-25 22:14Laurent KnauthI remember the times when Rob Mitchell died from cancer. Here or there, i read that Warp w
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I remember the times when Rob Mitchell died from cancer. Here or there, i read that Warp would no longer be the same anymore — i.e. the label would then release some dubious music. I was sceptical first and thought «*what do they know ?!*»... but the prophecies applied. The neo-no-disco-cosmopolitan-left-wing-alter-native-crossroads premise Warp became is not enough to me. That reminds me Accidental Records' motto saying «*support independant music*» : there's one word too much there, because you support music or not, and independance has nothing to say here. Of course i wouldn't say so if only Matthew «*Go Beyonce Go Beyonce*» Herbert — with all the respect he deserves besides — released some better music than he does. Now i see the new Accidental motto is : «*an independant home for music without compromise*» — too bad that one of my favorite quotes from a famous french writer (Andre Gide) actually is «*L’art naît de contrainte, vit de lutte, meurt de liberté*», which exactly means «*Art is born from constraint, lives through struggle and dies through liberty.*» Okay, i know selling music is not an easy thing and marketing has its reasons, but all of this vacuity exhausts me. Sorry for this but as i first said : i'm getting old ! Let's go to bed anyway. Good nite everybody. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Mehmet Ismail <mehmet.ismail85@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 82 lines "i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last> "i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last > 10 years." > > There's a point to Warp and everything they release is supposed to > reinforce that point otherwise it's pointless? What "point" do you not see? > > Mem > > > On 24 Sep 2014, at 20:34, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > I try to gather some crumbs here or there but on the whole i'm completely > left behind wondering which place to go, plus i don't have much time for > digging. > > I don't like Cristian Vogel's latest releases, nor do i like Devine's ones > and i don't even see the point in quite anything Warp released for the last > 10 years. > > I don't necessarily dislike everything though : «Syro» sounds like some > nice surprise to me. > > -- > " > *Automatic, pushbutton, remote controlSynthetic, genetics command your > soul.*" > > The Last Poets, *Mean machine* > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> > wrote: > >> http://goo.gl/KvoNZH >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> *Jeffrey J Davis* >> 218.833.2847 >> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com >> [image: WordPress] >> <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jeffreyjdavis.com&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: >> LinkedIn] >> <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.linkedin.com%2Fin%2FJeffreyJDavis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: >> Twitter] >> <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twitter.com%2FJeffreyJDavis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: >> Quora] >> <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quora.com%2FJeffrey-J-Davis&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> [image: >> Google Plus] >> <http://s.wisestamp.com/links?url=https%3A%2F%2Fplus.google.com%2F106489213738169001058%2Fabout&sn=amVmZkBqZWZmcmV5amRhdmlzLmNvbQ%3D%3D> >> [image: Google Talk] jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com [image: Skype] >> jeffreyjamesdavis >> >> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> avicii.com >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 11:05 AM, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> this mailing list >>>> soundcloud >>>> bleep.com >>>> raster-noton.net >>>> warp.net/records >>>> >>>> >>>> On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use >>>>> as a resource for electronic music? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>
2014-09-22 16:35Mehmet IsmailI 'like' on Facebook and follow on Twitter and Soundcloud all the labels and artists that
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I 'like' on Facebook and follow on Twitter and Soundcloud all the labels and artists that I like as well as online music publications/blogs/whatever. Add a load of the latter and eventually you'll get used to what feeds you good shit and ditch the ones that don't. Ones I follow are XLR8R, Noisey, Thump, Resident Advisor, Dummy Mag, Drowned in Sound, Pigeons and Planes. Can anyone recommend any more? Mem
quoted 12 lines On 22 Sep 2014, at 17:05, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> wrote:> On 22 Sep 2014, at 17:05, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com> wrote: > > this mailing list > soundcloud > bleep.com > raster-noton.net > warp.net/records > > >> On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com> wrote: >> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as a resource for electronic music? >
2014-09-22 16:39Seth BranumI just put on the suit that the aliens gave me and the musics come and find me. On Monday,
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I just put on the suit that the aliens gave me and the musics come and find me. On Monday, September 22, 2014, Mehmet Ismail <mehmet.ismail85@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 30 lines I 'like' on Facebook and follow on Twitter and Soundcloud all the labels> I 'like' on Facebook and follow on Twitter and Soundcloud all the labels > and artists that I like as well as online music > publications/blogs/whatever. Add a load of the latter and eventually you'll > get used to what feeds you good shit and ditch the ones that don't. > > Ones I follow are XLR8R, Noisey, Thump, Resident Advisor, Dummy Mag, > Drowned in Sound, Pigeons and Planes. > > Can anyone recommend any more? > > Mem > > On 22 Sep 2014, at 17:05, René Wilhelm <rene.wilhelm@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rene.wilhelm@gmail.com');>> wrote: > > this mailing list > soundcloud > bleep.com > raster-noton.net > warp.net/records > > > On 22 September 2014 01:45, DJ Stephen R. <djstephenr@gmail.com > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','djstephenr@gmail.com');>> wrote: > >> What sites, blogs, online resources or offline periodicals do you use as >> a resource for electronic music? > > >
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2014-09-22 23:23Stephen RuizThis was a relatively serious question, not to say the usual IDM snark isn't appreciated..
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This was a relatively serious question, not to say the usual IDM snark isn't appreciated...But, thanks for the info for those who sent it along. For me The Wire, Igloo Mag, XLR8R, Grooves (RIP) and to a lesser extent URB are/were kind of my go-to places to discover new stuff. I really like the idea of a "curated" experience, something like finding trusted sources for things. Labels used to be that for me. I'd frequently buy stuff on Warp, Skam, Schematic, etc. just on sight (physical copies of course) based on the quality of the label's previous output. With the glut of stuff that's out there now, that's just not feasible. -- Stephen R. :: Pixel Pusher / Sound Wrangler --------------------------------------------------------------- http://architectsandheroes.net/ https://soundcloud.com/djstephenr http://stephenruiz.com/music/ <http://www.stephenruiz.com> --------------------------------------------------------------- #TBT - "*Throwback Thursdays: San Francisco Raves in the 1990′s Pt. 3 – Interview with Gavin Hardkiss and DJ Garth*" http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursdays-san-francisco-raves-1990s-pt-3.html <http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursday-2004-top-10-playlist.html> #TBT - "*Throwback Thursdays: San Francisco Raves in the 1990′s Pt. 2 – The Ambient Years*" http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursdays-san-francisco-raves-1990s-pt-2-ambient-music.html <http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursday-artificial-intelligence-warp-records.html> #TBT - "*Throwback Thursdays: San Francisco Raves in the 1990′s Pt.1*" http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursdays-san-francisco-raves-1990s.html <http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursday-artificial-intelligence-warp-records.html>
2014-09-23 08:33Sham Beam+1 for the question. I'm curious about what people use as well. Resident Advisor is my mai
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+1 for the question. I'm curious about what people use as well. Resident Advisor is my main source for new music but it doesn't cover much IDM. On 9/23/2014 9:23 AM, Stephen Ruiz wrote:
quoted 35 lines This was a relatively serious question, not to say the usual IDM snark> This was a relatively serious question, not to say the usual IDM snark > isn't appreciated...But, thanks for the info for those who sent it along. > > For me The Wire, Igloo Mag, XLR8R, Grooves (RIP) and to a lesser extent > URB are/were kind of my go-to places to discover new stuff. I really > like the idea of a "curated" experience, something like finding trusted > sources for things. Labels used to be that for me. I'd frequently buy > stuff on Warp, Skam, Schematic, etc. just on sight (physical copies of > course) based on the quality of the label's previous output. > > With the glut of stuff that's out there now, that's just not feasible. > > > > -- > Stephen R. :: Pixel Pusher / Sound Wrangler > --------------------------------------------------------------- > http://architectsandheroes.net/ > https://soundcloud.com/djstephenr > http://stephenruiz.com/music/ <http://www.stephenruiz.com> > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > #TBT - "/Throwback Thursdays: San Francisco Raves in the 1990′s Pt. 3 – > Interview with Gavin Hardkiss and DJ Garth/" > http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursdays-san-francisco-raves-1990s-pt-3.html > <http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursday-2004-top-10-playlist.html> > > #TBT - "/Throwback Thursdays: San Francisco Raves in the 1990′s Pt. 2 – > The Ambient Years/" > http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursdays-san-francisco-raves-1990s-pt-2-ambient-music.html > <http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursday-artificial-intelligence-warp-records.html> > > #TBT - "/Throwback Thursdays: San Francisco Raves in the 1990′s Pt.1/" > http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursdays-san-francisco-raves-1990s.html > <http://www.okayfuture.com/features/throwback-thursday-artificial-intelligence-warp-records.html>
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2014-09-23 08:45Dan SThis Is My Jam
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2014-09-23 14:00Clint Andersoni know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering stuff is pretty much unive
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i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering stuff is pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start flogging the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically how i heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people kept bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit this is awesome' Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 2 lines This Is My Jam> This Is My Jam >
2014-09-23 14:09Artie QewpieI go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO helped get Autechre si
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I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new music. -- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote:
quoted 16 lines i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering stuff is> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering stuff is > pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start flogging > the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically how i > heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people kept > bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit this > is awesome' > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This Is My Jam >> >
2014-09-23 16:27Mehmet IsmailI like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. Example for me being
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I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it makes a lot of sense. Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of Actress. Awesome indeed. Mem
quoted 24 lines On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote:> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: > > I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new music. > > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat > >> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering stuff is >> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start flogging >> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically how i >> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people kept >> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit this >> is awesome' >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> This Is My Jam >
2014-09-26 00:46Sham BeamThe graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead ends without the
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The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote:
quoted 32 lines I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension.> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. > > Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it makes a lot of sense. > > Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of Actress. Awesome indeed. > > Mem > >> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >> >> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new music. >> >> -- >> --arturius qewpie >> that which is, is wat >> >>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering stuff is >>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start flogging >>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically how i >>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people kept >>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit this >>> is awesome' >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> This Is My Jam >>
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2014-09-26 01:42Artie QewpieYou're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also mean things like "le
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You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because those chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like Spotify actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term "filter bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, on TV, etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote:
quoted 55 lines The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead > ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. > > > > On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >> >> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >> makes a lot of sense. >> >> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >> Actress. Awesome indeed. >> >> Mem >> >>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>> >>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just >>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new music. >>> >>> -- >>> --arturius qewpie >>> that which is, is wat >>> >>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>> stuff is >>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>> flogging >>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically >>>> how i >>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people kept >>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit >>>> this >>>> is awesome' >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This Is My Jam >>> > >
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2014-09-26 13:38Clint AndersonSham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who did a remix, arti
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Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist C, yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, you're going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. You do have to make that leap at some point... As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, that has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that just plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point halfway through. Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote:
quoted 72 lines You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also mean> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also mean > things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because those chaps > tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like Spotify actually > paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term "filter bubble." > And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, on TV, etc unless > you deliberately isolate yourself! > > > On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: > >> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead >> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >> >> >> >> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >> >>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>> >>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>> makes a lot of sense. >>> >>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>> >>> Mem >>> >>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just >>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new music. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --arturius qewpie >>>> that which is, is wat >>>> >>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>> stuff is >>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>> flogging >>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically >>>>> how i >>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people kept >>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit >>>>> this >>>>> is awesome' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >> > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat >
2014-09-26 15:15Basma OIt is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to mind are the netla
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It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 118 lines Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who > did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist C, > yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, you're > going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, > techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just > because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. > You do have to make that leap at some point... > As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when you > say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving away > huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a lot of > their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to analyze > my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is a sense, > mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind something, it > must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of quality. I mean we > are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? We all know there > are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go download > comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not even PAY > anything for most of it, or pay what we want. > Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, Boards > of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage space > really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and time > into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of music > they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to eat and > live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites from Warp > or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block as far as > artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a commercial space > where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it happens, in fact, in > IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, because of the > internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need to look to the > new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative music without > compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. > Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, that > has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that just > plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. > Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point > halfway through. > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: > >> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also >> mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because those >> chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like Spotify >> actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term "filter >> bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, on TV, >> etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >> >> >> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >> >>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead >>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>> >>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>>> >>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>> >>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>> >>>> Mem >>>> >>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just >>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new music. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>> >>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>> stuff is >>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>>> flogging >>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically >>>>>> how i >>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people >>>>>> kept >>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit >>>>>> this >>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> --arturius qewpie >> that which is, is wat >> > >
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http://enoughrec.bandcamp.com/album/duality ;) speaking of i would love to release something on pertin-nce, maybe ill try to send them some stuff again sometime :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 130 lines It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to> It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to > mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... > > I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then > deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or > that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud > stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. > > On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who >> did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist C, >> yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, you're >> going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, >> techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just >> because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. >> You do have to make that leap at some point... >> As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when >> you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving >> away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a >> lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to >> analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is >> a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind >> something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >> quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? >> We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go >> download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not >> even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. >> Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, >> Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage >> space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and >> time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of >> music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to >> eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites >> from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block >> as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a >> commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it >> happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, >> because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need >> to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative >> music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. >> Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, that >> has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that just >> plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. >> Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point >> halfway through. >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >> >>> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also >>> mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because those >>> chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like Spotify >>> actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term "filter >>> bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, on TV, >>> etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >>> >>> >>> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >>> >>>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead >>>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>>> >>>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>>>> >>>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >>>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>>> >>>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>>> >>>>> Mem >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just >>>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new >>>>>> music. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>>> stuff is >>>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>>>> flogging >>>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically >>>>>>> how i >>>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people >>>>>>> kept >>>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> --arturius qewpie >>> that which is, is wat >>> >> >> >
2014-09-26 15:55Basma O:) On 26 September 2014 17:19, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > http://enoughrec
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:) On 26 September 2014 17:19, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 146 lines > http://enoughrec.bandcamp.com/album/duality > ;) > > speaking of > > i would love to release something on pertin-nce, maybe ill try to send > them some stuff again sometime :) > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to >> mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... >> >> I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then >> deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or >> that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud >> stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. >> >> On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who >>> did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist C, >>> yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, you're >>> going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, >>> techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just >>> because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. >>> You do have to make that leap at some point... >>> As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when >>> you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving >>> away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a >>> lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to >>> analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is >>> a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind >>> something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >>> quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? >>> We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go >>> download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not >>> even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. >>> Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, >>> Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage >>> space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and >>> time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of >>> music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to >>> eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites >>> from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block >>> as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a >>> commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it >>> happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, >>> because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need >>> to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative >>> music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. >>> Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, >>> that has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that >>> just plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. >>> Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point >>> halfway through. >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>> >>>> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also >>>> mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because >>>> those chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like >>>> Spotify actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term >>>> "filter bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, >>>> on TV, etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >>>> >>>>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in >>>>> dead >>>>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>>>>> >>>>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >>>>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>>>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mem >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just >>>>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>>>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new >>>>>>> music. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>>>> stuff is >>>>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>>>>> flogging >>>>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically >>>>>>>> how i >>>>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people >>>>>>>> kept >>>>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit >>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> --arturius qewpie >>>> that which is, is wat >>>> >>> >>> >> >
2014-09-26 22:09Laurent KnauthNow i see that i'm not the only one to find difficult to come across some good novelties.
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Now i see that i'm not the only one to find difficult to come across some good novelties. It also seems — i'm new to this list — like some (or many) of us are not only listeners, but also aspiring (or actual) musicians. As for me, i almost have zero time for music-seeking since i decided, 3 years ago, to get into music theory. From then, you'll unlikely find me prescribing any music, especially since like i said before, i'd hardly name anything (apart from Alexandra Stan's «*Mister Saxobeat*») that pleased my ears during the past 10 years in the «IDM» genre — but i remain convinced that i missed some good stuff. Thinking again, there was/there is Benge and Subjex. And, of course, The Tuss. Regarding Clint's comment about that «*if someone is putting money behind something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of quality*», yes indeed, i'm one of those who think that art directors used to exist for a reason. Of course, techno/IDM enter the game with a lot of fresh air, but also 99% of waste. Many people think that the Hollywood movies are evil or suck because they generate high profits whilst Hollywood doesn't aim to produce «art», but only some products that people would pay for. To do so, they need expensive financing, which allows them to afford solid scenarios, dialogs, music, sfx, whatever. On the opposite, here in France, we have the «french cinema», also know as the «cultural exception». You bet it's an exception : because these are movies made by some parisian «aristocrat» daddys' boys and girls wanting to «produce art» but unable to write a proper line of a scenario, and because nobody would ever want to pay to watch this, they live from subsidies in the name of the so called «cultural exception» whose even the titles or trailers alone are, «ahem ahem», embarrassing (just to set the tone, here's one of them : «*I hate other people's children*» — sounds promising doesn't it) ! A few years ago, i remember reading a funny «Sounding off» Sound on Sound article ending like : «*if you're composing, mixing and mastering your own music, it shouldn't come as a surprise if you're the only one actually liking it*». PS : hell yeah, i'm desperately fond of «*Mister-Saxo-Mister-Saxobeat*». -- " *Automatic, pushbutton, remote controlSynthetic, genetics command your soul.*" The Last Poets, *Mean machine* On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 154 lines :)> :) > > On 26 September 2014 17:19, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> http://enoughrec.bandcamp.com/album/duality >> ;) >> >> speaking of >> >> i would love to release something on pertin-nce, maybe ill try to send >> them some stuff again sometime :) >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to >>> mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... >>> >>> I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then >>> deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or >>> that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud >>> stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. >>> >>> On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate >>>> who did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist >>>> C, yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, >>>> you're going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, >>>> techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just >>>> because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. >>>> You do have to make that leap at some point... >>>> As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when >>>> you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving >>>> away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a >>>> lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to >>>> analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is >>>> a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind >>>> something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >>>> quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? >>>> We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go >>>> download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not >>>> even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. >>>> Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, >>>> Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage >>>> space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and >>>> time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of >>>> music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to >>>> eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites >>>> from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block >>>> as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a >>>> commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it >>>> happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, >>>> because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need >>>> to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative >>>> music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. >>>> Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, >>>> that has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that >>>> just plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. >>>> Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point >>>> halfway through. >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also >>>>> mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because >>>>> those chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like >>>>> Spotify actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term >>>>> "filter bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, >>>>> on TV, etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in >>>>>> dead >>>>>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >>>>>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>>>>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>>>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mem >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>>>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>>>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... >>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>>>>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>>>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new >>>>>>>> music. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>>>>> stuff is >>>>>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>>>>>> flogging >>>>>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- >>>>>>>>> basically >>>>>>>>> how i >>>>>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people >>>>>>>>> kept >>>>>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh >>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
2014-09-26 23:44Jared DunneIf the farmer takes quality food away from the sheep, and starts feeding them shit, and co
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If the farmer takes quality food away from the sheep, and starts feeding them shit, and continues to feed them shit, eventually the sheep find the shit bearable. They'll actually begin to like the shit. Crave it even... because that's all they're getting... so they fool themselves into loving it. Might as well survive happy, I guess... even if that happiness is really shit. Meanwhile, the farmer giggles all the way to the bank, knowing that he fooled the sheep into loving the shit, and now he doesn't have to invest in real, quality feed. Wait. What? I've had a bit to smoke. So ba-a-a-a-a-ck off me! On Sep 26, 2014 4:09 PM, "Laurent Knauth" <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 208 lines Now i see that i'm not the only one to find difficult to come across some> Now i see that i'm not the only one to find difficult to come across some > good novelties. > It also seems -- i'm new to this list -- like some (or many) of us are not > only listeners, but also aspiring (or actual) musicians. > As for me, i almost have zero time for music-seeking since i decided, 3 > years ago, to get into music theory. > From then, you'll unlikely find me prescribing any music, especially since > like i said before, i'd hardly name anything (apart from Alexandra Stan's <<*Mister > Saxobeat*>>) that pleased my ears during the past 10 years in the <<IDM>> > genre -- but i remain convinced that i missed some good stuff. Thinking > again, there was/there is Benge and Subjex. And, of course, The Tuss. > Regarding Clint's comment about that <<*if someone is putting money behind > something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of quality*>>, > yes indeed, i'm one of those who think that art directors used to exist for > a reason. > Of course, techno/IDM enter the game with a lot of fresh air, but also 99% > of waste. > Many people think that the Hollywood movies are evil or suck because they > generate high profits whilst Hollywood doesn't aim to produce <<art>>, but > only some products that people would pay for. To do so, they need expensive > financing, which allows them to afford solid scenarios, dialogs, music, > sfx, whatever. On the opposite, here in France, we have the <<french > cinema>>, also know as the <<cultural exception>>. You bet it's an exception : > because these are movies made by some parisian <<aristocrat>> daddys' boys > and girls wanting to <<produce art>> but unable to write a proper line of a > scenario, and because nobody would ever want to pay to watch this, they > live from subsidies in the name of the so called <<cultural exception>> whose > even the titles or trailers alone are, <<ahem ahem>>, embarrassing (just to > set the tone, here's one of them : <<*I hate other people's children*>> -- > sounds promising doesn't it) ! > A few years ago, i remember reading a funny <<Sounding off>> Sound on Sound > article ending like : <<*if you're composing, mixing and mastering your > own music, it shouldn't come as a surprise if you're the only one actually > liking it*>>. > > PS : hell yeah, i'm desperately fond of <<*Mister-Saxo-Mister-Saxobeat*>>. > > -- > " > *Automatic, pushbutton, remote controlSynthetic, genetics command your > soul.*" > > The Last Poets, *Mean machine* > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote: > >> :) >> >> On 26 September 2014 17:19, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> http://enoughrec.bandcamp.com/album/duality >>> ;) >>> >>> speaking of >>> >>> i would love to release something on pertin-nce, maybe ill try to send >>> them some stuff again sometime :) >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to >>>> mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... >>>> >>>> I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then >>>> deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or >>>> that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud >>>> stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. >>>> >>>> On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate >>>>> who did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist >>>>> C, yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, >>>>> you're going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, >>>>> techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just >>>>> because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. >>>>> You do have to make that leap at some point... >>>>> As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when >>>>> you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving >>>>> away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a >>>>> lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to >>>>> analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is >>>>> a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind >>>>> something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >>>>> quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? >>>>> We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go >>>>> download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not >>>>> even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. >>>>> Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, >>>>> Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage >>>>> space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and >>>>> time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of >>>>> music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to >>>>> eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites >>>>> from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block >>>>> as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a >>>>> commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it >>>>> happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, >>>>> because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need >>>>> to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative >>>>> music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. >>>>> Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, >>>>> that has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that >>>>> just plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. >>>>> Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point >>>>> halfway through. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also >>>>>> mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because >>>>>> those chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like >>>>>> Spotify actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term >>>>>> "filter bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, >>>>>> on TV, etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in >>>>>>> dead >>>>>>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on >>>>>>>> Werkdiscs. >>>>>>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>>>>>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>>>>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mem >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>>>>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>>>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>>>>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... >>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>>>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>>>>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new >>>>>>>>> music. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>>>>>> stuff is >>>>>>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>>>>>>> flogging >>>>>>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- >>>>>>>>>> basically >>>>>>>>>> how i >>>>>>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until >>>>>>>>>> people kept >>>>>>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh >>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > >
2014-09-27 07:28Wim VogelDiscovering new music has never been easier than today. I used to go to recordstores every
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Discovering new music has never been easier than today. I used to go to recordstores every week to listen to a pile of new records and cd's. Since most recordstores have disappeard in the area that I live, that is not an option anymore. But nowadays I just startup my computer and I can listen to almost any radiostation on the world. Hear new music on websites like Spotify or visit the website of almost all the major & minor labels. There are lots of online musicstores and listen to music on sites like bandcamp.com, soudcloud.com or youtube.com. And I can track down and buy almost all albums ever published on Discogs.com. Don't talk or read about music. Just listen to music and decide for yourself what you like... The new Aphex is on Spotify... Met vriendelijke groet, Wim Vogel On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:44 AM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 228 lines If the farmer takes quality food away from the sheep, and starts feeding> If the farmer takes quality food away from the sheep, and starts feeding > them shit, and continues to feed them shit, eventually the sheep find the > shit bearable. They'll actually begin to like the shit. Crave it even... > because that's all they're getting... so they fool themselves into loving > it. Might as well survive happy, I guess... even if that happiness is > really shit. Meanwhile, the farmer giggles all the way to the bank, > knowing that he fooled the sheep into loving the shit, and now he doesn't > have to invest in real, quality feed. > > Wait. What? I've had a bit to smoke. So ba-a-a-a-a-ck off me! > On Sep 26, 2014 4:09 PM, "Laurent Knauth" <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Now i see that i'm not the only one to find difficult to come across some >> good novelties. >> It also seems -- i'm new to this list -- like some (or many) of us are not >> only listeners, but also aspiring (or actual) musicians. >> As for me, i almost have zero time for music-seeking since i decided, 3 >> years ago, to get into music theory. >> From then, you'll unlikely find me prescribing any music, especially >> since like i said before, i'd hardly name anything (apart from Alexandra >> Stan's <<*Mister Saxobeat*>>) that pleased my ears during the past 10 >> years in the <<IDM>> genre -- but i remain convinced that i missed some good >> stuff. Thinking again, there was/there is Benge and Subjex. And, of >> course, The Tuss. >> Regarding Clint's comment about that <<*if someone is putting money >> behind something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >> quality*>>, yes indeed, i'm one of those who think that art directors >> used to exist for a reason. >> Of course, techno/IDM enter the game with a lot of fresh air, but also >> 99% of waste. >> Many people think that the Hollywood movies are evil or suck because they >> generate high profits whilst Hollywood doesn't aim to produce <<art>>, but >> only some products that people would pay for. To do so, they need expensive >> financing, which allows them to afford solid scenarios, dialogs, music, >> sfx, whatever. On the opposite, here in France, we have the <<french >> cinema>>, also know as the <<cultural exception>>. You bet it's an exception : >> because these are movies made by some parisian <<aristocrat>> daddys' boys >> and girls wanting to <<produce art>> but unable to write a proper line of a >> scenario, and because nobody would ever want to pay to watch this, they >> live from subsidies in the name of the so called <<cultural exception>> whose >> even the titles or trailers alone are, <<ahem ahem>>, embarrassing (just to >> set the tone, here's one of them : <<*I hate other people's children*>> -- >> sounds promising doesn't it) ! >> A few years ago, i remember reading a funny <<Sounding off>> Sound on Sound >> article ending like : <<*if you're composing, mixing and mastering your >> own music, it shouldn't come as a surprise if you're the only one actually >> liking it*>>. >> >> PS : hell yeah, i'm desperately fond of <<*Mister-Saxo-Mister-Saxobeat*>>. >> >> -- >> " >> *Automatic, pushbutton, remote controlSynthetic, genetics command your >> soul.*" >> >> The Last Poets, *Mean machine* >> >> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> :) >>> >>> On 26 September 2014 17:19, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> http://enoughrec.bandcamp.com/album/duality >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> speaking of >>>> >>>> i would love to release something on pertin-nce, maybe ill try to send >>>> them some stuff again sometime :) >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come >>>>> to mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... >>>>> >>>>> I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then >>>>> deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or >>>>> that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud >>>>> stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. >>>>> >>>>> On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate >>>>>> who did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist >>>>>> C, yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, >>>>>> you're going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, >>>>>> techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just >>>>>> because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. >>>>>> You do have to make that leap at some point... >>>>>> As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind >>>>>> when you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, >>>>>> giving away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of >>>>>> ignoring a lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? >>>>>> I've tried to analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is >>>>>> that there is a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money >>>>>> behind something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >>>>>> quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? >>>>>> We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go >>>>>> download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not >>>>>> even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. >>>>>> Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, >>>>>> Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage >>>>>> space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and >>>>>> time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of >>>>>> music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to >>>>>> eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites >>>>>> from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block >>>>>> as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a >>>>>> commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it >>>>>> happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, >>>>>> because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need >>>>>> to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative >>>>>> music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. >>>>>> Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, >>>>>> that has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that >>>>>> just plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. >>>>>> Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point >>>>>> halfway through. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can >>>>>>> also mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech >>>>>>> because those chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics >>>>>>> like Spotify actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the >>>>>>> term "filter bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the >>>>>>> radio, on TV, etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in >>>>>>>> dead >>>>>>>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice >>>>>>>>> dimension. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on >>>>>>>>> Werkdiscs. >>>>>>>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>>>>>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mem >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that >>>>>>>>>> LFO >>>>>>>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>>>>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a >>>>>>>>>> clever >>>>>>>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... >>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>>>>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who >>>>>>>>>> influenced >>>>>>>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new >>>>>>>>>> music. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>>>>>>> stuff is >>>>>>>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just >>>>>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>>>>> flogging >>>>>>>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- >>>>>>>>>>> basically >>>>>>>>>>> how i >>>>>>>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until >>>>>>>>>>> people kept >>>>>>>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh >>>>>>>>>>> shit >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S < >>>>>>>>>>>> danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >>
2014-09-29 06:57Artie QewpieOn 9/26/2014 6:09 PM, Laurent Knauth wrote: > As for me, i almost have zero time for music
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On 9/26/2014 6:09 PM, Laurent Knauth wrote:
quoted 2 lines As for me, i almost have zero time for music-seeking since i decided, 3> As for me, i almost have zero time for music-seeking since i decided, 3 > years ago, to get into music theory.
then, thank god, you're too busy to trouble this list with your "theories" from here-on out, yes? -- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat
2014-09-29 09:00Laurent KnauthI wonder which theory you put into practice. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Artie Qewpie
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I wonder which theory you put into practice. On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote:
quoted 13 lines On 9/26/2014 6:09 PM, Laurent Knauth wrote:> On 9/26/2014 6:09 PM, Laurent Knauth wrote: > >> As for me, i almost have zero time for music-seeking since i decided, 3 >> years ago, to get into music theory. >> > > then, thank god, you're too busy to trouble this list with your "theories" > from here-on out, yes? > > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat >
2014-09-29 06:55Artie QewpieOn 9/26/2014 11:15 AM, Basma O wrote: > > I usually go to Enough Records > > I go through
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On 9/26/2014 11:15 AM, Basma O wrote:
quoted 4 lines I usually go to Enough Records> > I usually go to Enough Records > >
I go through too many myself. Then I turn to Riced Out Records -- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat
2014-09-26 23:18brian@hyperreal.orgOn Fri, 26 Sep 2014, Clint Anderson wrote: > Sham has a good point in that when you go fro
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quoted 8 lines Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who did> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who did > a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist C, yes, > you're probably going to find > three artists you like, HOWEVER, you're going to find three artists who > probably share a lot of equipment, techniques, and style, not because they > are bad or uncreative, but just > because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. > You do have to make that leap at some point...
The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly different equipment, techniques, and styles. Best recent example for me is An-ten-nae's remix of Daughter's cover of Daft Punk's Get Lucky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th9q_1vzBRE Brian
2014-09-29 06:59Artie QewpieOn 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: > The best remixes, like the best covers,
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On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote:
quoted 2 lines The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly> The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly > different equipment
best excuse for a small dick yet. -- --arturius qewpie that which is, is wat
2014-09-29 16:06Clint Andersonequipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought ;) Clint Anderson S
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equipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought ;) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote:
quoted 15 lines On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote:> > > On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: > > The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly >> different equipment >> > > best excuse for a small dick yet. > > > -- > --arturius qewpie > that which is, is wat >
2014-10-11 22:29IDM ChicagoShameless self promotion here, but I started Headphone Commute in 2007 just to share the m
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Shameless self promotion here, but I started Headphone Commute in 2007 just to share the music: http://headphonecommute.com On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 29 lines equipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought> equipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought > > > > ;) > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: > >> >> >> On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: >> >> The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly >>> different equipment >>> >> >> best excuse for a small dick yet. >> >> >> -- >> --arturius qewpie >> that which is, is wat >> > >
2014-10-11 22:56WesThat's pretty cool. Read a few of the articles already. I'll def check in on it from time
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That's pretty cool. Read a few of the articles already. I'll def check in on it from time to time. Are you taking submissions? I got a small but complimentary little review in a blog recently - http://throughthewiremusic.com/2014/10/11/faex-optim-hollywood-dream-bubble-one-track-a-day-111014/ Sent from my iPhone
quoted 32 lines On 11 Oct 2014, at 23:29, IDM Chicago <idm.chicago@gmail.com> wrote:> On 11 Oct 2014, at 23:29, IDM Chicago <idm.chicago@gmail.com> wrote: > > Shameless self promotion here, but I started Headphone Commute in 2007 just to share the music: > > http://headphonecommute.com > >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> equipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought >> >> >> >> ;) >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: >>> >>>> The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly >>>> different equipment >>> >>> best excuse for a small dick yet. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --arturius qewpie >>> that which is, is wat >
2014-10-11 22:59IDM ChicagoThere are almost 600 reviews on there plus in the studio features with artists, like this
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There are almost 600 reviews on there plus in the studio features with artists, like this Richard Devine special : http://reviews.headphonecommute.com/2014/09/03/in-the-studio-with-richard-devine/ I don't really take submissions, because, as already mentioned above, it's all about a personal curation. Occasionally, I pick and choose which articles I may republish from other sources. But again, that's usually based strictly on my taste... On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Wes <wesley.macdonald@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
quoted 46 lines That's pretty cool. Read a few of the articles already. I'll def check in> That's pretty cool. Read a few of the articles already. I'll def check in > on it from time to time. Are you taking submissions? I got a small but > complimentary little review in a blog recently - > http://throughthewiremusic.com/2014/10/11/faex-optim-hollywood-dream-bubble-one-track-a-day-111014/ > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 11 Oct 2014, at 23:29, IDM Chicago <idm.chicago@gmail.com> wrote: > > Shameless self promotion here, but I started Headphone Commute in 2007 > just to share the music: > > http://headphonecommute.com > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> equipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought >> >> >> >> ;) >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: >>> >>> The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly >>>> different equipment >>>> >>> >>> best excuse for a small dick yet. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> --arturius qewpie >>> that which is, is wat >>> >> >> >
2017-06-02 09:31Mehmet IsmailWas going to forward most of this email thread in answer to a thread just started by Chris
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Re: Where do you go?
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Re: Where do you go?
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Was going to forward most of this email thread in answer to a thread just started by Chris Bellevie's (Podcast Recommendations?) asking about podcasts/finding new music. Reading it again, it makes more sense to just reply all, as the thread is useful right down to the later replies. Some useful stuff and maybe worth resurrecting the thread after three years. I wonder if the same people who contributed to this thread are still using the same or new sources for new music? Probably a bit of both. Same for me and also a pretty tight social media stream. Mem On 11 October 2014 at 23:59, IDM Chicago <idm.chicago@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 61 lines There are almost 600 reviews on there plus in the studio features with> There are almost 600 reviews on there plus in the studio features with > artists, like this Richard Devine special : http://reviews. > headphonecommute.com/2014/09/03/in-the-studio-with-richard-devine/ > > I don't really take submissions, because, as already mentioned above, it's > all about a personal curation. Occasionally, I pick and choose which > articles I may republish from other sources. But again, that's usually > based strictly on my taste... > > On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Wes <wesley.macdonald@hotmail.co.uk> > wrote: > >> That's pretty cool. Read a few of the articles already. I'll def check in >> on it from time to time. Are you taking submissions? I got a small but >> complimentary little review in a blog recently - >> http://throughthewiremusic.com/2014/10/11/faex-optim- >> hollywood-dream-bubble-one-track-a-day-111014/ >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 11 Oct 2014, at 23:29, IDM Chicago <idm.chicago@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Shameless self promotion here, but I started Headphone Commute in 2007 >> just to share the music: >> >> http://headphonecommute.com >> >> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> equipment? oh that stuff everyone pawned 10 years ago and aphex bought >>> >>> >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:59 AM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/26/2014 7:18 PM, brian@hyperreal.org wrote: >>>> >>>> The best remixes, like the best covers, are those from folks with wildly >>>>> different equipment >>>>> >>>> >>>> best excuse for a small dick yet. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> --arturius qewpie >>>> that which is, is wat >>>> >>> >>> >> >