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Re: [idm] a question of classification.

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2001-02-12 05:24adam florin [idm] a question of classification.
2001-02-12 16:03David Gee Re: [idm] a question of classification.
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2001-02-12 05:24adam florincould some serious electronic music-head please elucidate the discrepencies between the fo
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[idm] a question of classification.
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could some serious electronic music-head please elucidate the discrepencies between the following genres : ambient house, minimal house, minimal techno. this is a very geeky post PLEASE don't bother complaining about it. + if i'm not mistaken, the following is correct : ambient house - late 80's / early 90's scene, housish beats with a dubby chillout vibe, loads of sampling and effects. e.g. : the orb, 808 state. minimal house - really stripped-down 'hard' percussion-oriented house. e.g. jeff mills, richie hawtin. minimal techno - more recent, mostly german, scene of bare-minimum, undanceably subtle click-n-bass quasi-ambient tracks. e.g. oval, chain reaction folks. ...and i hear things with very subtle beats being called 'ambient'. is this so ? by the classic eno definition, it seems that the genre would be restricted to slow washes of sound. is this about right ? ...or are the terms completely interchangeable (as i originally thought) ? you see, i'm one of these kids who discovered idm a year before he discovered the rest of dance music, and, well, i'm trying to catch up. thanks. .af. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-02-12 16:03David Gee> ambient house - late 80's / early 90's scene, housish beats with a > dubby chillout vibe
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Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:03:04 -0500
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Re: [idm] a question of classification.
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quoted 3 lines ambient house - late 80's / early 90's scene, housish beats with a> ambient house - late 80's / early 90's scene, housish beats with a > dubby chillout vibe, loads of sampling and effects. e.g. : the orb, > 808 state.
that's about the same as my view...
quoted 2 lines minimal house - really stripped-down 'hard' percussion-oriented> minimal house - really stripped-down 'hard' percussion-oriented > house. e.g. jeff mills, richie hawtin.
i consider minimal house to be more the Steve Bug, I:Cube, etc stuff, still very housy, rounder sounds. Could I be anymore vague?
quoted 3 lines minimal techno - more recent, mostly german, scene of bare-minimum,> minimal techno - more recent, mostly german, scene of bare-minimum, > undanceably subtle click-n-bass quasi-ambient tracks. e.g. oval, > chain reaction folks.
I'd go with Richie Hawtin as being the definitive idea of minimal techno....
quoted 3 lines ...and i hear things with very subtle beats being called 'ambient'.> ...and i hear things with very subtle beats being called 'ambient'. > is this so ? by the classic eno definition, it seems that the genre > would be restricted to slow washes of sound.
strictly, yeah, but people use downtempo/ambient pretty interchangeably... genre names and their meanings tend to differ radically in different geographical regions. i mean, there are tons of people who listen to BoC, Aphex, etc, who have nver heard the term "IDM". Trance can mean anything from e-puddle Paul Oakenfold to stomping-Israeli goa to DMT-freaky Australian/Finnish stuff to " 'avin it large" Chris Liberator choons. House can .... okay, okay, you get the idea. Anyway, it's all techno. david
quoted 18 lines is this about right ? ...or are the terms completely interchangeable> > > is this about right ? ...or are the terms completely interchangeable > (as i originally thought) ? you see, i'm one of these kids who > discovered idm a year before he discovered the rest of dance music, > and, well, i'm trying to catch up. > thanks. > > > > .af. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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