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>People have said:
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>> i don't like a lot of the "dsp for the sake of
>dsp"...
>
>I'm just curious, what are some examples of stuff
>that's just "dsp for
>the sake of
>dsp" ?
>I suppose you could make that argument about Kid606's
>stuff, but what
>else ?
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it's kind of subjective. a track is "dsp for the
sake of dsp" if it's got loads of dsp, but nothing
else of interest. but who's to judge that the
underlying structure is in fact "insubstantial" or
"uninteresting"?
the only thing i feel i have the right to say on this
subject is that one should simply be aware that sound
(digital processes and effects in particular) is one
thing, and the organization of those sounds another.
it is possible to do interesting things with either
the sound or the organization, but often it is
neither. it becomes bothersome when you hear a very
cliche type of process (like "granularization" - a
good example is right at the very beginning of track 3
(tewe) on chiastic slide - sounds kinda like a modem
connecting to the internet) being applied to decorate
or disguise an otherwise boring phrase or song. it's
just too easy to use these types of processes in a
routine way, so then it comes off gimmicky.
imagine if you will, a generic autechre beat that goes
something like this:
[thud-ch-ch-thud-ch-ch-ch-thud-ch-ch-thud-ch-ch-ch...]
now add some very clicky glitchy sound for a hihat and
slap on some long whiney granularized sound combined
with maybe snippets of something else you
time-stretched or whatever with some other process:
[wanka-wanka-wiiiiiiiiieeeeeeaaaaaaaooooooo-bzzt-bz-b]
Now you have an ae beat that with cool sounds and the
idm-people will accept it. of course, you could put
some more work into it. maybe try to sort of copy a
nice melody you heard funkstorung do, but rearrange
the notes a little. make a nice floaty pingy low
frequency synth with a long release time in reaktor.
but then, sometimes the processing or sound collection
is actually very interesting in it's own right, in
which case you can drop the requirement that the
"underlying structure" be interesting also. that's
cool with me.
so i wouldn't give an "example" of "just dsp" because
it's too subjective, but i believe it really is out
there.
jon
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