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2000-10-30 09:18David Malmquist [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
└─ 2000-10-30 14:38Greg Clow Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
└─ 2000-10-30 16:49atomly Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
2000-10-30 15:52reimer Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
├─ 2000-10-30 16:20EggyToast Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
└─ 2000-10-30 18:04Greg Clow Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
└─ 2000-10-31 11:46Irene McC [idm] distortion
└─ 2000-10-31 19:29Lee Azzarello Re: [idm] distortion
2000-11-01 21:49Kevin Murphy Re: [idm] distortion
2000-11-02 00:10Steve Denheyer Re: [idm] distortion
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2000-10-30 09:18David MalmquistWhat´s this? Does it have a name? ______________________ David Malmquist RIX FM Box 17820
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Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:18:55 +0100
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[idm] Skam - new sublabel?
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What´s this? Does it have a name? ______________________ David Malmquist RIX FM Box 17820 S-11894 Stockholm tel 46.8.56272047 fax 46.8.56272079 david.malmquist@rixfm.com http://www.rixfm.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-30 14:38Greg ClowAt 04:18 AM 30/10/00, David Malmquist wrote: >What´s this? Does it have a name? It's calle
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Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:38:36 -0500
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Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
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At 04:18 AM 30/10/00, David Malmquist wrote:
quoted 1 line What´s this? Does it have a name?>What´s this? Does it have a name?
It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an artist called Posthuman. Greg -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-30 16:49atomlyOn Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:38:36AM -0500, Greg Clow wrote: > It's called SMAK. All they've
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Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:49:46 -0600
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On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 09:38:36AM -0500, Greg Clow wrote:
quoted 2 lines It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an> It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an > artist called Posthuman.
Is this the same Post-Human that I saw perform before Marumari at Rough Trade in Soho the day of the Warp party? Two guys from London doing a sort of Autechre thing? -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@atdot.org | atomly@curiousnetworks.com http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-30 15:52reimer> It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an > artist call
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Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:52:22 +0100
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Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
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quoted 2 lines It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an> It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an > artist called Posthuman.
what's skam up to with this sublabel? no website, no information, never seen this cd anywhere.. what a great promotion. r --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-30 16:20EggyToastAt 04:52 PM 10/30/2000 +0100, reimer wrote: > > It's called SMAK. All they've released so
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At 04:52 PM 10/30/2000 +0100, reimer wrote:
quoted 5 lines It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an> > It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an > > artist called Posthuman. > >what's skam up to with this sublabel? no website, no information, never seen >this cd anywhere.. what a great promotion.
that's the point. now skam has good distribution and good promotion, since everyone knows about them and wants their stuff. this is probably that way of becoming a "mysterious and unpredictable label" again. bleah /derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-30 18:04Greg ClowAt 10:52 AM 30/10/00, reimer wrote: > > It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a
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Mon, 30 Oct 2000 13:04:51 -0500
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Re: [idm] Skam - new sublabel?
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At 10:52 AM 30/10/00, reimer wrote:
quoted 5 lines It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an> > It's called SMAK. All they've released so far is a rather limited CD by an > > artist called Posthuman. > >what's skam up to with this sublabel? no website, no information, never seen >this cd anywhere.. what a great promotion.
Tell me about it. I haven't seen the CD anywhere. I managed to get good quality MP3s from a friend and it's pretty good stuff. Should I see the disc anywhere, I'd definately snap it up. And no, I can't share the MP3s as I already recorded them to MiniDisc and deleted the files to clear up some disc space. Sorry. Greg -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-31 11:46Irene McCJust a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to are distorted, either
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Tue, 31 Oct 2000 13:46:07 +0200
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[idm] distortion
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Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to are distorted, either at the top end which clips, or the bass which just goes "bbsshhh" - and looking at the actual curve, it makes standing squared waves. Presumably this is not due to the extraction, but comes from the original source - is it because people use huge compression on their sound files? Is there any way around it? Even if I convert my own CD's to MP3, I cannot predict which ones will come out distorted (and many do). Selecting the "normalize" function does not seem to help - sometimes it even boots the gain. I * np : Godspeed's Levez your skinny mitts... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-31 19:29Lee Azzarelloon 10/31/00 3:46 AM, Irene McC at substar@iafrica.com wrote: > Just a general MP3 related
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Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:29:24 -0800
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on 10/31/00 3:46 AM, Irene McC at substar@iafrica.com wrote:
quoted 20 lines Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to> Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to > are distorted, either at the top end which clips, or the bass which > just goes "bbsshhh" - and looking at the actual curve, it makes > standing squared waves. > > Presumably this is not due to the extraction, but comes from the > original source - is it because people use huge compression on their > sound files? Is there any way around it? Even if I convert my own > CD's to MP3, I cannot predict which ones will come out distorted > (and many do). Selecting the "normalize" function does not seem > to help - sometimes it even boots the gain. > > I > * > np : Godspeed's Levez your skinny mitts... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-11-01 21:49Kevin MurphyIrene McC wrote: > > Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to
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Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:49:51 -0800
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Re: [idm] distortion
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Irene McC wrote:
quoted 12 lines Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to> > Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to > are distorted, either at the top end which clips, or the bass which > just goes "bbsshhh" - and looking at the actual curve, it makes > standing squared waves. > > Presumably this is not due to the extraction, but comes from the > original source - is it because people use huge compression on their > sound files? Is there any way around it? Even if I convert my own > CD's to MP3, I cannot predict which ones will come out distorted > (and many do). Selecting the "normalize" function does not seem > to help - sometimes it even boots the gain.
What bitrate are the MP3 files? At low bitrates, the "psycho-acoustic model" that the MP3 compression algorithm uses has a tendency to throw away data at the very top and the very bottom of the audible spectrum, which leads to washed-out bass and warbling in horns or bells. The MP3 compressor used also matters - some of the older opensource ones and the first public release of the Xing encoder tended to exaggerate this problem. Of course, the better your playback equipment is, the more likely you are to notice this stuff. Any file below 128kbps is going to have noticible artifacts, especially in electronic music where very "pure" synthetic waveforms are being used. My ears are too blown from years of unprotected concertgoing to find many problems with the 128k files, but lot of people will claim that your need to use 192k and up for "CD quality" audio. YMMV. -- Kevin | "I've always wanted to have a wonderful, beautiful Murphy | wife who loves me to death, and she's always | wanted to be an American, so it's working out | really well." - Emo Phillips --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-11-02 00:10Steve DenheyerSquare-shaped waves are usually an indication of digital distortion. What probably happene
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Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:10:53 -0500
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Square-shaped waves are usually an indication of digital distortion. What probably happened is, whoever recorded the track had the source gain on the CD *way* to high. Compression (unless it's limiting) generally produces gentler curves, as opposed to squares. There is no way to fix this. Sorry. a_the_est ----- Original Message ----- From: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 6:46 AM Subject: [idm] distortion
quoted 20 lines Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to> Just a general MP3 related question: a lot of MP3's I'm listening to > are distorted, either at the top end which clips, or the bass which > just goes "bbsshhh" - and looking at the actual curve, it makes > standing squared waves. > > Presumably this is not due to the extraction, but comes from the > original source - is it because people use huge compression on their > sound files? Is there any way around it? Even if I convert my own > CD's to MP3, I cannot predict which ones will come out distorted > (and many do). Selecting the "normalize" function does not seem > to help - sometimes it even boots the gain. > > I > * > np : Godspeed's Levez your skinny mitts... > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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